What sort of man do you think Hitler was?

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What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« on: December 20, 2008, 02:57:25 PM »

Still, this is serious, I want to know your opinions.
No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2008, 03:04:41 PM »
An admittedly gifted but warped fantasist who unfortunately got the chance to indulge his fantasies.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 03:26:08 PM »
Still, this is serious, I want to know your opinions.

Hitler was acting in the best interests of Germany in the mid 30ies.  Sometime between 1934 and 1938, he began acting in his best interests, and in the interest of owning a bit more of the world than he was controlling then.

He was, before his brain went south, a gifted speaker, capable of swaying thousands of people to his point of view.  By accusing unpopular portions of the population of horrible crimes and actions against the State, he eliminated any chance of organized opposition from within Germany.  After all, if you disagree with Herr Hitler, you must be a Jew sympathizer or worse.

At the opening of the war, Hitler was quite sane, although it appears that at this point he has slipped over the line from using scapegoats to feed the mob to believing that some people are actually less than others by reason of their race only.

By 1943, he was severely unstable and his list of mental conditions would fill the page.  His career, as tracked by his speeches, is a slow fade into insanity by a brilliant man with a true gift for giving the mob everything they wanted while taking everything he wanted.

From 1924 to 1933, he went from prison, (Tried for High Treason after a failed coup.) to Chancellor of the state.

I think his dictator ambitions, racial beliefs and sociopaths ways were evil as hell.

I also think that had he gotten a bit of treatment, he might have brought Germany to the prosperity he promised when he was appointed Chancellor in 1933.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2008, 03:30:49 PM »
Well, this sucks. I agree with everything said apart from the idea that his dictatorial ambitions, racist views and sociopathic tendencies made him evil, and I think that they're just characteristic of politicians. Why else would you become one? But that's probably due to me being a miserable bastard who hates politicians, so I wasted your time with baseless opinions, and am still doing so, sorry.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 03:35:02 PM »
Well, this sucks. I agree with everything said apart from the idea that his dictatorial ambitions, racist views and sociopathic tendencies made him evil, and I think that they're just characteristic of politicians. Why else would you become one? But that's probably due to me being a miserable bastard who hates politicians, so I wasted your time with baseless opinions, and am still doing so, sorry.

Not all politicians are evil, per say.  Some of them are simply greedy and self absorbed.  I wouldn't allow any of them to eat at my table though.

I'm not certain I would allow most of them in the house.  I know how to get rid of bugs and mice, but I don't know any Politician repellents.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2008, 03:36:29 PM »
I think his dictator ambitions, racial beliefs and sociopaths ways were evil as hell.

BZZZZZZ.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2008, 03:36:41 PM »
Well, politic means a group of bloodsuckers, so stakes, holy water and a crucifix.
No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2008, 03:40:37 PM »
I think his dictator ambitions, racial beliefs and sociopaths ways were evil as hell.

BZZZZZZ.

???  Raven will now show her Noobiness.  What are you saying?

1.  Congratulations!  You've hit the right answer, you win.
2.  You're so wrong, I don't even have words for it.
3.  Something else....

Was I close?
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2008, 03:57:17 PM »
I think his dictator ambitions, racial beliefs and sociopaths ways were evil as hell.

BZZZZZZ.

???  Raven will now show her Noobiness.  What are you saying?

1.  Congratulations!  You've hit the right answer, you win.
2.  You're so wrong, I don't even have words for it.
3.  Something else....

Was I close?

Evil and Hell don't exist...think that's what he was going for.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2008, 04:15:54 PM »
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He was a genocidal fuckhead

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2008, 01:45:40 PM »
Well, this sucks. I agree with everything said apart from the idea that his dictatorial ambitions, racist views and sociopathic tendencies made him evil, and I think that they're just characteristic of politicians. Why else would you become one? But that's probably due to me being a miserable bastard who hates politicians, so I wasted your time with baseless opinions, and am still doing so, sorry.

Not all politicians are evil, per say.  Some of them are simply greedy and self absorbed.  I wouldn't allow any of them to eat at my table though.

I'm not certain I would allow most of them in the house.  I know how to get rid of bugs and mice, but I don't know any Politician repellents.

I'd have politicians round for dinner, makes for interesting conversation
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2008, 01:47:11 PM »
He was probably a jew in real life.

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2008, 05:16:50 PM »
I think his dictator ambitions, racial beliefs and sociopaths ways were evil as hell.

BZZZZZZ.

???  Raven will now show her Noobiness.  What are you saying?

1.  Congratulations!  You've hit the right answer, you win.
2.  You're so wrong, I don't even have words for it.
3.  Something else....

Was I close?

Evil and Hell don't exist...think that's what he was going for.

Basically. (and the BZZZ was a buzzer you'd hear on a game show indicating incorrectness)
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2008, 05:19:53 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2008, 05:32:03 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

Welcome to FES!

Don't worry you will get the hang of it soon.

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divito the truthist

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2008, 06:08:01 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

It's mainly semantics that I'm arguing, but incorrect as an opinion, no.
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2008, 06:38:08 PM »
Since evil is subjective, she could hardly be incorrect in her perception of it.

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2008, 06:38:40 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

Hitler was bleeobe as shleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Am I correct?
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2008, 06:39:41 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

Hitler was bleeobe as shleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Am I correct?
Quite possibly.

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2008, 06:42:22 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

Hitler was bleeobe as shleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Am I correct?

wat

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Benocrates

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2008, 06:43:15 PM »
think about it for a bit
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2008, 06:45:08 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

It's mainly semantics that I'm arguing, but incorrect as an opinion, no.

Divito, if you argue that evil is purely a subjective concept, how can anybody possibly be "incorrect" about it?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2008, 06:47:17 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

It's mainly semantics that I'm arguing, but incorrect as an opinion, no.

Divito, if you argue that evil is purely a subjective concept, how can anybody possibly be "incorrect" about it?
I suppose in the same way one can be an existentialist and a determinist...

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2008, 06:48:00 PM »
think about it for a bit

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2008, 06:50:34 PM »
 Maybe ya should, cracka
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2008, 06:53:51 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

It's mainly semantics that I'm arguing, but incorrect as an opinion, no.

Divito, if you argue that evil is purely a subjective concept, how can anybody possibly be "incorrect" about it?

I'm sure he meant objective evil doesn't exist
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2008, 07:03:26 PM »
So she's incorrect in her opinion? ???

It's mainly semantics that I'm arguing, but incorrect as an opinion, no.

Divito, if you argue that evil is purely a subjective concept, how can anybody possibly be "incorrect" about it?

I'm sure he meant objective evil doesn't exist

I never saw Ravenwood claim that it did.  In fact the fact that the post began with "I think that..." seems to indicate from the outset that an acknowledged opinion is forthcoming.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2008, 07:06:06 PM »
ehhhh.....whatever, hell doesn't exist and neither does [E]vil so meh, debate over
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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2008, 07:07:45 PM »
ehhhh.....whatever, hell doesn't exist and neither does [E]vil so meh, debate over

Well, in your opinion. 
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: What sort of man do you think Hitler was?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2008, 08:45:27 PM »
You shou.ld invent an Evil Gauge a machine to measure evil and prove him wrong.

Hitler was a 56.69 on the Evil Scale. That's pretty high when compared to Al Pacino's 56.68.
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