Issues and Concerns

ontite      15:25:54     Posting a new topic in Flat Earth Debate & Discussion.

This guy has zero posts, and his first action is to make a new thread in the board reserved most strictly for serious debate. This happens all too often, and most of the time it's something like "why can I see curvature on the horizon when I go to the beach?" or "how come I can see satellites in the sky?". I'm not saying we shouldn't let noobs post in the serious boards, and obviously they need to be able to make threads in Questions & Clarification, but I seriously think we need some kind of minimum post count (I think 100 posts would be reasonable) before allowing new members to create threads in Debate & Discussion.

That's an interesting idea, and I think it might be helpful.  Only Daniel would be able to implement something like that, though.

Since we are on the subject, putting a minimum post limit on the ability to post images is also a good idea. 

Apparently no one here has been to a forum that limits abilities by post count before. They suck. There is spamming to achieve the post count, people come to the forum and get pissed they can't do basic necessary things to participate in the forum, and it just leads to less new members staying.

Apparently no one here has been to a forum that limits abilities by post count before. They suck. There is spamming to achieve the post count, people come to the forum and get pissed they can't do basic necessary things to participate in the forum, and it just leads to less new members staying.

That's why we need only restrict what is causing a problem, and nothing more. How many new members have created useful threads in Debate & Discussion within their first hundred posts, compared with those who post threads that eventually get moved to Angry Ranting or General Discussion anyway? I'm not suggesting we stop them posting in there, just making threads.

Meh. It is a non issue. Changing it would just cause another annoyance.

Meh. It is a non issue.

Maybe for those who only visit Debate & Discussion once every couple of weeks.

Ah yes, because seeing an obviously ignorable thread pains you in ways that are unspeakable because being a pedantic twat you can't scroll right past it.

Ah yes, because seeing an obviously ignorable thread pains you in ways that are unspeakable because being a pedantic twat you can't scroll right past it.

I'd prefer it if Debate & Discussion could be kept reserved for, you know, debate and discussion.

Quote from: Midnight on April 18, 2009, 05:54:45 PM

We need to get something straight, Mr. Hara Tiki. Your issue with me is not related to this web site. Your issue with me is not related to anyone online. Your issue with me is due to your behavior and my understanding of said behavior, your refusal to acknowledge it, and your refusal to move on from it, which, out of respect for you (believe it or not I still do), will go unmentioned, no matter what befalls us next time. However, your habitual abuse of your "badge" is about to get you into some seriously embarrassing trouble.

If you continue to wantonly and randomly delete my posts, hara-fuck-ie-poo, your days as a mod will disappear with a finality unrivaled in the history of this domain name. I know you're doing it, you know you're doing it, and we both know that the posts you are deleting are NOT inflammatory, are NOT off topic, and are NOT nonsensical bullshit ala Dann. You are doing it simply to remove me from topics of conversation.

As a mod, you do not have the right, nor the freedom, to randomly delete posts because you can. You are instructed to delete/, modify, and etc, when a post is grossly over the limits of the thread or area, and etc. You know better, and of all people, I think higher of you than you have been acting on here to me.

You may think you are above the rules due to some imagined slight from me, but you are just a cog in a machine that outweighs your own footprint. Your badge is a privilege. It can be taken away, and if you are hell bent on your course, you can never say I did not warn you. 

Apparently you have learned nothing about me, and who you are dealing with. Crow it to the mountain, it will not avail you.

Of course you will flap and flex your e-peen and deny my true station because of my spotty attendance of the past months. My appearances, as you should know by now, are not accidental. I am always here, I simply remain silent for much of the time. This is my decision, for reasons you are party to, but will not admit to yourself.

Nothing I post here is ever an accident, nor is it aloof. When I post, the patterns show themselves for what they are. You know this.

You were my friend once. I still view you asa my friend, despite our previous issue [if you care at all, you will message me about that], but your attitude and your INSISTENCE on making me push back is only going to land you in the madhouse. Please attempt civility and leave my posts alone.

If you delete this, it will reappear. If you delete it repeatedly, it will keep coming back to your plate. Daniel has been notified of this post. He has it in his inbox, as well as other places you do not have access to *grin*.

For those of you on a power trip who seem to think you have the structure of the forums understood, you are in for a nightmare of fail. You do not run the show. You ARE the show. Like elected officials, you bastards are here as a service to Daniel and to the people who loyally remain in the ranks. That's it. It isn't a contest for the biggest dick in the bag. It is a duty, period.

If you ban me, or have your overseer do so, you will be highly frustrated at the outcome. I will not go away because you wish to avoid me for personal reasons. Silencing me is an impossible task. You know this. You know me. We are both adults, and we are capable of dialog, as we used to do on the msn and whatnot. If you want to talk to me, you know how to find me. If you persist in this...game, you will find yourself in an absurd situation that will only make you scream at your monitor. Know when to say when, and let's get past our shit, shall we?

The ball is in your court.  No man the fuck up.

Mids, do we really need to go through this again?  No one is trying to "silence" you.  The only thing that has changed since your absence are the rules.  We've gotten a lot tougher on spam and general topic derailment.  These rules were implemented on direct  orders from Daniel himself.  Frankly, I don't understand why people keep getting angry at the mods (and Hara, in particular).  All they're doing is following the rules, and Daniel approves of the job they're doing.

Just so you know, Mids, in around late 2008, even with the new mods, this forum was dying.  Dying because it was drowning from the mindless spam, noobs that received nothing in welcome but "tl;dr" and "Fuck off" from proud mod Robosteve, organized troll raids, and worst of all, an endless supply of alts from bored regulars.  There were so many alts that all noobs were scrutinized severely to see if they were legit, and many genuine newbies were no doubt insulted by our skepticism.  Wardogg and Raven, in particular, I remember strongly suspecting were alts.  As it turned out, both were genuine newbies, and they've both become highly productive, contributing, and friendly members of this forum.

It wasn't easy for the mods to crack down on all this garbage clogging our forums, but all things considered, they've done an excellent job.  The alt problem appears to be largely gone, thanks to a community-driven effort to discourage alt production and punish offenders, dubbed "Operation Chemo".  While we still are naturally exasperated by many noobs who don't bother to read the FAQ, I feel that our mods still give most of them a much more professional welcome than mod Robosteve, who is now ex-mod Robosteve.  Our troll problem will probably never go away fully, but our mods are still capably dealing with them.  In fact, Hara registered at a forum discussing us a few months ago and calmly explained what the true purpose of our forum is.  The would-be raiders were mostly very reasonable when spoken to normally, and a potential troll invasion was adverted.

In conclusion, our mods deserve more respect than they've been getting recently.  Their effort in resurrecting the forums has really been helpful, and I for one am grateful to all of them.  Even Robosteve, who at least put in the effort.  Maybe our forums are a little less goofy and silly now, but it was originally made to discuss FET.  If you truly love the FES, then you should respect the new rules personally ordered by our leader.  Vauxhall, Althalus, and Narcberry refused to respect the mods' authority and follow the rules, and they've been banned.  And you know what?  While the website may be a little less entertaining without them, it's far more productive.

So to all our mods, I say: "Thank you."

He doesn't care, so don't bother. Let him bask in the idea that I have some kind of super-duper grudge against him, it's much more entertaining. He's only fueling his own delusions. It's what happens when a pathological liar actually believes the garbage that ejaculates from his own mouth.

  Wardogg and Raven, in particular, I remember strongly suspecting were alts.  As it turned out, both were genuine newbies, and they've both become highly productive, contributing, and friendly members of this forum.

Awww, shucks.  *kicks the dirt* 


Who's alt was I?

ROUND000

It's what happens when a pathological liar actually believes the garbage that ejaculates from his own mouth.

Are you sure you don't have a teeny bit of a grudge?

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on April 18, 2009, 09:44:23 PM

  Wardogg and Raven, in particular, I remember strongly suspecting were alts.  As it turned out, both were genuine newbies, and they've both become highly productive, contributing, and friendly members of this forum.

Awww, shucks.  *kicks the dirt* 


Who's alt was I?

I actually suspected once that you were Narcberry's alt, trying to annoy us by pretending to be a stereotyped, redneck Amerifag.

I actually suspected once that you were Narcberry's alt, trying to annoy us by pretending to be a stereotyped, redneck Amerifag.

Ouch.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on April 19, 2009, 08:30:45 PM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on April 18, 2009, 09:44:23 PM

  Wardogg and Raven, in particular, I remember strongly suspecting were alts.  As it turned out, both were genuine newbies, and they've both become highly productive, contributing, and friendly members of this forum.

Awww, shucks.  *kicks the dirt* 


Who's alt was I?

I actually suspected once that you were Narcberry's alt, trying to annoy us by pretending to be a stereotyped, redneck Amerifag.

No, we really do exist.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on April 20, 2009, 12:18:29 PM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on April 19, 2009, 08:30:45 PM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on April 18, 2009, 09:44:23 PM

  Wardogg and Raven, in particular, I remember strongly suspecting were alts.  As it turned out, both were genuine newbies, and they've both become highly productive, contributing, and friendly members of this forum.

Awww, shucks.  *kicks the dirt* 


Who's alt was I?

I actually suspected once that you were Narcberry's alt, trying to annoy us by pretending to be a stereotyped, redneck Amerifag.

No, we really do exist.

No, I had meant like an annoying Bush fan who ejaculates patriotism, 9/11 reminders, and born-again Christian fundamentalism garbage, a la KingMan.  But don't worry.  I realized eventually that you're much too smart to be an obvious troll or alt.  I don't agree with all of your political beliefs, but at least you defend them reasonably enough, and I'm certain that you actually believe what you're arguing.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on April 20, 2009, 04:32:00 PM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on April 20, 2009, 12:18:29 PM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on April 19, 2009, 08:30:45 PM

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on April 18, 2009, 09:44:23 PM

  Wardogg and Raven, in particular, I remember strongly suspecting were alts.  As it turned out, both were genuine newbies, and they've both become highly productive, contributing, and friendly members of this forum.

Awww, shucks.  *kicks the dirt* 


Who's alt was I?

I actually suspected once that you were Narcberry's alt, trying to annoy us by pretending to be a stereotyped, redneck Amerifag.

No, we really do exist.

No, I had meant like an annoying Bush fan who ejaculates patriotism, 9/11 reminders, and born-again Christian fundamentalism garbage, a la KingMan.  But don't worry.  I realized eventually that you're much too smart to be an obvious troll or alt.  I don't agree with all of your political beliefs, but at least you defend them reasonably enough, and I'm certain that you actually believe what you're arguing.

Im still waiting for those new tidy whitey pics. 

There has been an influx of noobs lately. Would it be possible to "force" new members to read the FAQ?

There has been an influx of noobs lately. Would it be possible to "force" new members to read the FAQ?

Angry noobs make the world go round.  har har

Quote from: Waste of Mind on May 06, 2009, 06:45:30 PM

There has been an influx of noobs lately. Would it be possible to "force" new members to read the FAQ?

Angry noobs make the world go round.  har har

At first I was 
Then I was 

Good to see our mods are still as rude and unprofessional as always.

Good to see our mods are still as rude and unprofessional as always.

Good to see you come and go so quickly.

yes

yes

I'm sorry, who are you, and what exactly is your question/concern?

Is it Narc sneaking around a corner?

yes

Hey narc, when are you gonna haxors our servers? Just know that when you do we'll be in your base killing your doods.

Oh, it's Narc again.  Apologies, carry on.

Who's alt am I? 

Who's alt am I? 

Ignore bridget, he's an alt and a troll himself.

Who's alt am I? 

The Overmind's.