Would you agree that the maps of the Earth, where they are on continent are accurate? As 1 mile is 1 mile. So if I can measure 1 mile on the ground using whatever means I like, then that will match up with 1 mile using whatever means you like and that will agree with any map. So that FE and RE agree that Maps of the Ground are not faked at all.
If this is the case, it becomes trivial to prove FET wrong.
Using maps of the Ground (on maps we can agree are accurate, or that we check using actual mile markers or even trundle wheels or odometers) and the stated distances between locations (which we can check if we think they are wrong) we can therefore make measurements of the Geodesics for the surface of the Earth.
Using these geodesics, we can prove mathematically that the surface of the Earth is round.
I have had some experience with map making (as one might be able to tell form my other posts), and I ahve done this. I have measured the Geodesic and found that they mathematically dictate that the surface of the Earth must be Round and can not be Flat.
So, if you agree that 1 mile is 1 mile, then the only conclusion using that applied to the real world, is that the Earth is round.
Thank you for providing the conclusive proof that FET is wrong.
Nope.
Tom, single word posts are against the forum rules. But I am sure you know that.
So, if you disagree, please elaborate on exactly what you disagree with. And remember that specific post was not aimed at you or your model of FE, but at someone else's.
This it he ting I have found looking at the various explanations of FE. Each person has an alternative explanation of a few things between FE and RE, and for those they are usually valid. What happens though, is that outside those few situations, their explanations break down. That is no model of FE explains everything that is observed.
For instance, the bendy light model works to produce the horizon and the apparent curvature of the Earth, but it fails when it come to seasons, as bendy light would cause the distance we see the horizon to shrink by around half. So bendy light might explain the limited situation it was developed to solve, but when the consequences are applied to other situations where it would have an effect, it causes discrepancies between its predictions and reality.
It is like your perspective effect Tom, It makes a reasonable attempt to explain why things appear to shrink as they approach the horizon, but it can not explain their apparent rotation (as if they are tipping over in the direction of travel).
However, FEers have an explanation why their models fail: Conspiracy.
As a Zetetic Tom, you are required (as stated by Rowbotham - page 1 of ENaG) not to make any assumptions not supported by evidence. You also say that you base your acceptance of FET on evidence. If there is a conspiracy and they are covering up
all evidence of the Flat Earth then, by definition, can not be any evidence for a flat Earth if there is no evidence for a Conspiracy.
As the claim about the conspiracy is that there is no evidence for it because it
is a conspiracy, then if you accept a Flat Earth
and a Conspiracy, you are violating the rules that Rowbotham set out as the Zetetic principal.
So either there is conclusive proof that there is a conspiracy and that the Earth is Flat (as opposed to any other conclusion from evidence), or it is hypocritical to accept both and still maintain you are a Zetetic.