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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2006, 05:32:54 PM »
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No personal gain? Isn't his name in every history book? Do you think he didn't return as a hero?


do you think he was thinking that, "o, i cant wait to lie to the entire world, and be put into those cool history books everyone talks about"

What if he couldn't do it?  He would have been ridiculed.  Sounds like a good reason to lie, oh, that and all the riches he would have come back to after a successful journey.


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« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2006, 05:49:50 PM »
if he couldnt do it, and had doubts that he would have been ridaculed, he would have never attepted it.

lets say you dont know how to snowbaord, and your on a mountian, and someone says ill give you 100 bucks if you make it all the way down without falling, but if you fall, you owe me 100 bucks, you wouldnt do it would you
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« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2006, 05:53:42 PM »
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if he couldnt do it, and had doubts that he would have been ridaculed, he would have never attepted it.

lets say you dont know how to snowbaord, and your on a mountian, and someone says ill give you 100 bucks if you make it all the way down without falling, but if you fall, you owe me 100 bucks, you wouldnt do it would you

Who said he would have to pay back the money used on the voyage?


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« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2006, 06:00:54 PM »
gaining the 100 dollars signified the gratifacation/fame he would get, and losing the 100 dollars signified the ridicule he would have gotten

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What if he couldn't do it? He would have been ridiculed. Sounds like a good reason to lie, oh, that and all the riches he would have come back to after a successful journey.
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« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2006, 06:07:51 PM »
How about this.  I take your challenge.  I don't know the first thing about snowboarding.  You give me the $100.  I take off down the hill and towards the bottom I crash. I get up, wipe the snow from my suit and go back up to the top of the mountain where you are.  You ask, "Did you make it with out falling?". Knowing I fell but would have to pay back the money, I say, "I made it all the way down without falling."  He lets me keep the money and brags about my accomplishments at the ski lodge.  See what lying can do for you?


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« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2006, 06:08:41 PM »
did Ferdinand Magellan go on the trip alone
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« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2006, 06:10:02 PM »
Of course not...but they would have been in the same situation as he.


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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2006, 06:10:54 PM »
do you believe the earth is round or flat
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2006, 06:15:34 PM »
I believe it to be a sphere.


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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2006, 06:15:47 PM »
Wow...there is no way that's relevant at all.

First off, it's evident from his posts on this forum that he believes the earth to be round.  Second of all, it doesn't matter; if your logic 'disproving' FE is invalid, everyone, Flat or Round earther, has the right to tell you you're wrong.

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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2006, 06:20:59 PM »
damn it, its people like you who make me come back.

its relivent because i want to know if hes trying to dbate a fellow re, so i can use re logic.

and if my logic is wrong to some, it may be right to others, i cant damn well use gravity to prove you fes wrong because you dont "believe in it"

and if a re wants to prove me wrong its his own choice, as for me, i would never intentionally disprove another re, i would wait for a fes to try and disprove him, as i did in the "sun fuel" posts :

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2525

yet even by doing this people want to ridicule me for wanting a fellow re to get his question answered, right or wrong
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2006, 06:26:21 PM »
*sigh*
You can't "damn well" use gravity whether you're debating a REer or a FEer, because you're still arguing  about the FE model, so you'd be constructing a strawman in either case.

As for never intentionally proving another REer wrong; why not?  If their reasoning is flawed, such deserves to be pointed out.  The reasoning is just as important as the result: if I were to say "2+2=4, because apples are bananas", would you let it slide because we both agree that 2+2=4?

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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2006, 06:32:43 PM »
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damn it, its people like you who make me come back.

It's people like you that keep me glued to this forum.  People like you that have no idea how the world around them works, yet they want the people on this site to explain to them how the FE works.  When an explanation is offered, people like you use 'stupid logic' based on the limited knowledge they possess, to try and tell them they are wrong.  Like I said before, as much as it hurts my brain trying to figure out what you have said, I can't wait for your next post...Damn you.


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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2006, 06:34:52 PM »
I'm fairly sure that being addicted to stupidity is hazardous to your health, TheEngineer...I think it's time for an intervention :wink:

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« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2006, 06:38:47 PM »
I think it's about time for rehab.


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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2006, 06:59:55 PM »
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damn it, its people like you who make me come back.

It's people like you that keep me glued to this forum.  People like you that have no idea how the world around them works, yet they want the people on this site to explain to them how the FE works.  When an explanation is offered, people like you use 'stupid logic' based on the limited knowledge they possess, to try and tell them they are wrong.  Like I said before, as much as it hurts my brain trying to figure out what you have said, I can't wait for your next post...Damn you.


the only reason you would believe our logic is is stupid is because we use RE logic, or your own, ever more futile, FE logic
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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2006, 07:02:55 PM »
See my explanation to you about how REers and FEers do not, in fact, use different systems of logic, please, before throwing around childish insults that wound my faith in the human race more than they do my pride.

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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2006, 07:06:50 PM »
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the only reason you would believe our logic is is stupid is because we use RE logic, or your own, ever more futile, FE logic

I simply use logic and my knowledge of the workings of the world.  There really is no such thing as RE/FE logic, just logic.


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« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2006, 07:07:58 PM »
gravity is RE logic, FE dont believe in it

they believe it is the earth being propelled through space by dark matter
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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2006, 07:10:02 PM »
Gravity is not logic.
I see no reason why this should have to be explained.

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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2006, 07:11:58 PM »
its logical for RE
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2006, 07:20:52 PM »
Yes, but you cannot attempt to debunk FE by presupposing that RE is correct.  What problem are you having in understanding this?

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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2006, 07:26:00 PM »
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See my explanation to you about how REers and FEers do not, in fact, use different systems of logic, please, before throwing around childish insults that wound my faith in the human race more than they do my pride.


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Yes, but you cannot attempt to debunk FE by presupposing that RE is correct. What problem are you having in understanding this?


so your saying that the logic we use, cant be used to prove your FE theory wrong?
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2006, 07:28:05 PM »
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so your saying that the logic we use, cant be used to prove your FE theory wrong?

The logic you use can only be used to show the inadequacy of the modern classroom.


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« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2006, 07:28:41 PM »
Get. This. Through. Your. Head.
Round earthers and Flat earthers do not use seperate systems of logic' they operate from differing premises, that is all.  To debunk FE, you must show that their premises are incorrect, or reason, ad absurdum, from their premises, otherwise anything you say is irrelevant.

I will not repeat this again.

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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2006, 07:28:58 PM »
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so your saying that the logic we use, cant be used to prove your FE theory wrong?

The logic you use can only be used to show the inadequacy of the modern classroom.


what are you insinuating here
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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2006, 07:39:43 PM »
This needs to stop.  I am suffering from low blood-oxygen levels due to LMAO syndrome.
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2006, 07:41:34 PM »
lol
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« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2006, 11:44:14 PM »
Somebody wanted a picture of how the hell you can go east/west on a FE?

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« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2006, 11:47:28 PM »
then howcome toilets flush in diffrent directions according to hemispheres
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