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« on: June 09, 2006, 09:13:41 AM »
Why is the post "The Sun and the FE model" Locked? its author is Scruffy

Couldn't you huys answer his post?
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 11:08:01 AM »
I can't seem to find it... could you provide a link?

Btw, this sort of thing is better handled in a PM.  Just for future reference.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2006, 01:01:51 PM »
Why is it locked?  I saw it a few days ago, and wanted to rip it to shreads, since scruffy obviously knows nothing about the workings of the sun!
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2006, 01:04:56 PM »
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Why is the post "The Sun and the FE model" Locked? its author is Scruffy

Couldn't you huys answer his post?

The arguments he poses are all wrong.  Every single one of his statements is backwards.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2006, 04:17:12 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2481

his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2006, 04:58:48 PM »
Ah.  I'm  guessing that thread is locked because he's talking about the same thing in another thread.

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if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad,


His ideas, at least in that post, of what fusion and fission are are both backwards (in terms of which is which) and mostly wrong (in terms of the amount of space required for the reactions to take place).

This was all discussed and some of his errors uncovered and rectified in the other thread; apparently you were unaware of it.

The new thread stays locked.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2006, 05:18:52 PM »
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2481

his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish


HAHA...Looks like you need to go back to school!!! Talk about me looking foolish, you now look like an idiot.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2006, 05:21:05 PM »
why would i likelike an idiot? is it because i misspelled something?
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2006, 05:32:22 PM »
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why would i likelike an idiot? is it because i misspelled something?


No; rather because you are trying (in a sort of flailing, ungraceful way) to defend an idea that even the original author admitted was misguided.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2006, 05:40:36 PM »
You look like an idiot because you tried to tell me that all his statements were valid and that I need to go back to school.  Well, if you had actually gone to the 9th grade, you would see the errors in his statements.
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Fission takes much more space and produces much more energy.

Fusion is what powers the sun and it creates magnitues of energy more than fission.
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Such a fission system does not exist on Earth.

Every nuclear reactor on Earth is a fission system.
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Nuclear arms are powered by fusion. Requires a lot less space and produces less energy

Nuclear arms powered by fission are 1940's standard.  The bombs used in WWII-fission, and about 10 - 15 kilo tons of TNT.  Fusion bombs, like those today, are measured in MEGA tons of TNT that is a factor of 1000 times the power.
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But because the sun is powered by fission,
It has to be much further away.
So theres another hole in the FE model.

Again, the sun is powered by fusion, not fission.  If it was fission, it would have to be much closer to us.

Now go back to school, and leave the physics to those of us that understand it.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2006, 05:48:56 PM »
was i the one who wrote that
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2006, 05:53:50 PM »
No, you just told me I was stupid for not believing it.  So I guess it turns out you were stupid for believing it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2006, 06:19:20 PM »
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2481

his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish


you got that i was calling you stupid out of that

maybe i was calling you stupid for another reason, because your an illogical idiot perhaps
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2006, 06:57:24 PM »
What, of what I have said, makes me an illogical idiot?
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2006, 07:25:50 PM »
well, apperantlyyour an engineer, and i thought youd have more sense than a idiot
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2006, 07:32:24 PM »
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well, apparently you're an engineer, and I thought you'd have more sense than a idiot.



So you make a statement, he points out how your statement is flawed (and it is), and he becomes an illogical idiot? I'm not sure I understand your reasoning behind this.
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2006, 07:40:06 PM »
What have I said that makes me out to be an idiot?  

I believe it is you who are making yourself out to be an idiot by not being knowledgeable about the subject matter you are talking about.  As an engineer...physics is my profession.  If I am not well versed in the topic of discussion, I don't chime in.  Maybe you should do the same.  

Like I said before, leave physics to those of us who understand it.
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2006, 02:18:53 PM »
how is my statement flawed. first of all, it wasnt my statment, second of all its not flawed, and third of all, uncle jim bob is fat
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2006, 02:44:15 PM »
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how is my statement flawed. first of all, it wasnt my statment

It wasn't your statement.  I never said it was.  However, this is what you said:
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his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish

You were trying to tell me I had less than a ninth grade education because your knowledge of the nuclear world was far superior to mine.

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second of all its not flawed

This statement just goes to show your stupidity.  I have previously explained why the original poster's arguments were wrong.  If you had bothered to go to ninth grade you would know I was correct.  The least you could have done was look it up online before responding.
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maybe i was calling you stupid for another reason, because your an illogical idiot perhaps

Everything I have said has been completely logical and well informed.  Everything you have said has gone to show your complete ignorance of physics.  You continue to defend your original statement even though you have no FREAKIN' idea what you are talking about.  
Now, you have called me an illogical idiot.  What have I said to make this so?

This is not the first thread you have replied in that shows your inneptitude.  So do us all a favor before you post.  THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND DO SOME FREAKIN' RESEARCH!
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2006, 02:53:13 PM »
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No, you just told me I was stupid for not believing it. So I guess it turns out you were stupid for believing it.




where on the forum did i sya i believed it. i was ondering why you guys wouldnt answer his question


    
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how is my statement flawed. first of all, it wasnt my statment

It wasn't your statement. I never said it was. However, this is what you said:
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his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish


and good for you that is waht i said, but no one was answering his post, so what was stopping me from thinking you were all blithering idiots
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2006, 03:02:40 PM »
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third of all, uncle jim bob is fat


Don't bring this up again.  Further posts by you which point this out in a similarly irrelevant manner will be deleted without warning.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2006, 03:05:08 PM »
there are entire posts created by uncle jim bob, have rellivant answers, and then a statment about his gravitational pull
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2006, 03:12:37 PM »
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where on the forum did i sya i believed it. i was ondering why you guys wouldnt answer his question


You said it right here:
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his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2006, 03:14:27 PM »
i didnt say i believd it did i

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his argument is completely valid.

if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish


i never say i beleive in something unless i am absolutely sure

i said his argument is valid, and if you didnt want to answer him, and locked his post, then i would think you are all idiots who couldnt rebuttle a questions about fission/fussion
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2006, 03:16:43 PM »
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where on the forum did i sya i believed it.


Well certainly the statement
    
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saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish


would seem to be an accusation that we are foolish, and that the only reason we said Scruffy was confusing fission with fusion was because we don't understand it (indicating that we either skipped or failed 9th grade science), which would imply that you believed Scruffy's notions of fission and fusion to be correct (otherwise surely you would have realized that the degree to which his questions made no sense and were "backwords" made them unanswerable).

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and good for you that is waht i said, but no one was answering his post, so what was stopping me from thinking you were all blithering idiots


Let me get this straight.  You saw a post that nobody was answering, and you assumed that everybody who wasn't answering it was therefore a blithering idiot?

Aside from the fact that that's inconceivably stupid, did it occur to you that maybe nobody was responding in that thread because the thread was locked?  Oh, wait, you did notice that: you mentioned it in your first post!
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2006, 03:20:13 PM »
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i didnt say i believd it did i


I'm unsure how to resolve statement this with

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i said his argument is valid,


unless you meant "valid but unsound", which somehow I find unlikely, and which isn't true anyway.

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and if you didnt want to answer him, and locked his post, then i would think you are all idiots who couldnt rebuttle a questions about fission/fussion


Yes yes, you can stop mentioning that now, since we did rebuttle (sic) his valid argument (sic) in another thread, and, as I said, the thread which you asked about was locked beause it was a duplicate post.

I thought we'd been over that.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2006, 03:20:15 PM »
here we go again. your making something out of nothing. your twisting my statements against me with no actuall proof (sound familiar?)

and now for this, i want ABSOLUTE PROOF PROVING THE EARTH IS FLAT

the RE society has ABSOLUTE PROFF PROVING THE EARTH SI ROUND

your proof is just a conspiracy

so now, where is your proof
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2006, 03:33:49 PM »
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your twisting my statements against me


No, I'm just repeating them.  They were twisted against you to begin with.

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with no actuall proof


Proof of what?  That that's the most obvious interpretation of your statements?  You haven't offered an alternative.

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and now for this, i want ABSOLUTE PROOF PROVING THE EARTH IS FLAT


You won't get it.

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the RE society has ABSOLUTE PROFF PROVING THE EARTH SI ROUND


Can you give me a link to this Society's website, so that I can read their FAQ?

If they don't have a website, can you briefly summarize this "absolute proof", and explain the way in which it is "absolute proof" and not merely "good evidence"?

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your proof is just a conspiracy


Hm, well, I agree that the FE society is conspiring to find evidence that the Earth is flat, but that act does not itself constitute proof, nor do they claim that it does.

Okay so, certainly in this particular post I've been twisting your words around.  But you have to admit, you write in such a manner as to make your meaning pretty ambiguous.  Do you speak this way as well?  I'm really finding it difficult to communicate with you.
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2006, 04:00:35 PM »
id it dousnt constitue proof, you have none, so your FES is wrong. by RES i was reffering to people who believe in a round earth,(sensible people)
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2006, 04:06:07 PM »
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id it dousnt constitue proof, you have none, so your FES is wrong. by RES i was reffering to people who believe in a round earth,(sensible people)

I am now convinced you never made it to the 9th grade.  Your grammar and sentence structure is horrible!  I don't like having to translate your type into something I can understand.
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