TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #150 on: November 28, 2008, 10:23:01 AM »
Yes, and it has nothing to do with how I feel about the Geneva Convention nor when the actual "no civilian casualties" clause of it instituted 4 years after that event.

1. You agree with the 1945 bombings of Japan.
2. The Geneva Convention, as it is today, would have been violated by such bombings had it been in effect at the time.
3. Therefore, you disagree with the Geneva Convention as it is today.

I merely stated that the Geneva Convention only prohibited it 4 years after it happened. How does that say whether or not I agree or disagree? I have no real feelings towards it either way, and I agree with the bomb droppings because they swiftly ended a war that could otherwise have forged on for years to come, not who or what was killed/destroyed because of them.

Also,
But you don't know that the US would violate them at that time had they been in place. Again, he was being technical. It's the same as someone doing something illegal before it was illegal. You believe that a person should go to prison if they did this act before the law was put in place?


Not understanding context clues is not what I would call possessing deducing skills.
Being a pendantic faggot is not what I would call making a proper argument.

I feel you are more pedantic by your need of specifics.
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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #151 on: November 28, 2008, 10:37:47 AM »
But you don't know that the US would violate them at that time had they been in place. Again, he was being technical. It's the same as someone doing something illegal before it was illegal. You believe that a person should go to prison if they did this act before the law was put in place?

What does this have to do with anything? If you agree with the act, you disagree with a law prohibiting it.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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cmdshft

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #152 on: November 28, 2008, 10:38:57 AM »
But you don't know that the US would violate them at that time had they been in place. Again, he was being technical. It's the same as someone doing something illegal before it was illegal. You believe that a person should go to prison if they did this act before the law was put in place?

What does this have to do with anything? If you agree with the act, you disagree with a law prohibiting it.

You are allowed to agree and disagree with various parts of an act, legal or not.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #153 on: November 28, 2008, 10:39:50 AM »
You are allowed to agree and disagree with various parts of an act, legal or not.

So you don't fully agree with the Geneva Convention, then. Thanks for clearing that up.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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cmdshft

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #154 on: November 28, 2008, 10:40:28 AM »
You are allowed to agree and disagree with various parts of an act, legal or not.

So you don't fully agree with the Geneva Convention, then. Thanks for clearing that up.

::)

You do realize that the Geneva Convention is an appeal to emotion mostly, right? Just like your peace-corp P.O.V. on things.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #155 on: November 28, 2008, 10:47:44 AM »
I feel you are more pedantic by your need of specifics.
I'm not the one obsesing over contextual clues.

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« Reply #156 on: November 28, 2008, 10:50:00 AM »
Really, Emir, ask him nicely and he'll probably tell you what he is talking about.
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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #157 on: November 28, 2008, 10:52:17 AM »
He refuses to say, so he either considers it unimportant or inconsequential to any discussion.

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cmdshft

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #158 on: November 28, 2008, 10:52:30 AM »
I feel you are more pedantic by your need of specifics.
I'm not the one obsesing over contextual clues.

I'm not the one who gets confused by them.

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« Reply #159 on: November 28, 2008, 02:50:30 PM »
So what does that say about me? Was it my fault?
Yes.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #160 on: November 28, 2008, 02:58:17 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #161 on: November 28, 2008, 03:00:48 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.

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« Reply #162 on: November 28, 2008, 03:05:35 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #163 on: November 28, 2008, 03:13:26 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

I don't think anyone particularly cares when it's pared up to something like the Holocaust at the same era.

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« Reply #164 on: November 28, 2008, 03:15:08 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

I don't think anyone particularly cares when it's pared up to something like the Holocaust at the same era.
So they should have just ignored all other crimes?

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cmdshft

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #165 on: November 28, 2008, 03:32:55 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

I don't think anyone particularly cares when it's pared up to something like the Holocaust at the same era.
So they should have just ignored all other crimes?

Will it really change anything at this point?

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« Reply #166 on: November 28, 2008, 03:50:04 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

I don't think anyone particularly cares when it's pared up to something like the Holocaust at the same era.
So they should have just ignored all other crimes?

Will it really change anything at this point?
The leaders of Imperial Japan were tried for war crimes. According to you, what they did was nothing compared to the Holocaust and should therefore have been dismissed without charge. Their prosecution was a great injustice that should be recognized!

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #167 on: November 28, 2008, 04:04:29 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

I don't think anyone particularly cares when it's pared up to something like the Holocaust at the same era.
So they should have just ignored all other crimes?

Will it really change anything at this point?
The leaders of Imperial Japan were tried for war crimes. According to you, what they did was nothing compared to the Holocaust and should therefore have been dismissed without charge. Their prosecution was a great injustice that should be recognized!

Could have been just saving face since they didn't get their hands on Hitler. They did get some Nazi's recently, but I digress.

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« Reply #168 on: November 28, 2008, 04:39:40 PM »
So what does that say about me? Was it my fault?
Yes.

I guess you're the expert on child molestation, you would know.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #169 on: November 28, 2008, 07:32:56 PM »
What does this have to do with anything?

Logic, it's part of life.

If you agree with the act, you disagree with a law prohibiting it.

Utterly false.
Our existentialist, relativist, nihilist, determinist, fascist, eugenicist moderator hath returned.
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« Reply #170 on: November 29, 2008, 05:00:42 AM »
The last few pages that I've missed have been very lawlworthy.  SOH NAO IMA GO BLO UPP DA HOLE ERTH CEPT 4 UHMERICAH, MKAAAAY?

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #171 on: November 29, 2008, 11:38:04 PM »
If the Nuremberg indictments were applied, Truman would have been hung.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact of actual history.
The fact of actual history is that the Allies committed crimes against humanity as well, but no one wants to remember them.

I don't think anyone particularly cares when it's pared up to something like the Holocaust at the same era.
So they should have just ignored all other crimes?

Will it really change anything at this point?
The leaders of Imperial Japan were tried for war crimes. According to you, what they did was nothing compared to the Holocaust and should therefore have been dismissed without charge. Their prosecution was a great injustice that should be recognized!

Find someone from the time of Pearl Harbor. When a country loses a major amount of servicemen when we have provoked no attack, people demand justice.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #172 on: November 30, 2008, 12:22:23 AM »
war crimes make me lol.
"ok we are killing each other too well, lets lay down some rules so we can kill each other civily"

ok ,they killed lots of people. or in inhumane ways:
"stop killing us inhumanely, lets lay down some rules so that we can only kill each other with bullets. that will solve everything."

hey, lets convict a war criminal:
"you killed too many people too badly, so we are going to kill you... what??? we killed people too?!?! nonsense!"
you cannot kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong.

and lastly:
"im glad the war and killing is over... i guess its time to hunt down and kill everyone who did not support us as well as the leaders of the other side. that should bring peace, finally."

War happens. lots of people die in it. it sucks. justice has no meaning when it happens, and everyone has blood on thier hands.

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Re: TWILIGHT, YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #173 on: November 30, 2008, 12:57:28 AM »
Governments decided that they would like a world left when they are done killing each other. It helps prevent things like crop dusting continents with small pox.

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« Reply #174 on: November 30, 2008, 03:16:06 AM »
Actually, why don't we do that more often? You could just clean out the country with napalm afterwards.
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« Reply #175 on: November 30, 2008, 03:29:03 AM »
Actually, why don't we do that more often? You could just clean out the country with napalm afterwards.

I like your thinking.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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« Reply #176 on: November 30, 2008, 03:30:23 AM »
I've gotten that alot. Mostly from german and russian dictators, over the years.
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« Reply #177 on: November 30, 2008, 03:43:57 AM »
I've gotten that alot. Mostly from german and russian dictators, over the years.

And Harry Truman?
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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« Reply #178 on: November 30, 2008, 04:03:44 AM »
Not really, no. He thought that the napalm was a terrible idea, and he wanted to use hydrochloric acid instead. I warned him that it would make the land unusable, but he wouldn't listen.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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« Reply #179 on: November 30, 2008, 05:08:54 AM »
War happens. Lots of people die in it. It sucks. Justice has no meaning when it happens, and everyone has blood on their hands.

Totally sigging. Well worded; you are wise.