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LazerXFace

god feeds off thought waves
« on: November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM »
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him. i think that if people stopped thinking about God, then he would dissapear and no longer exist.

is that probable at all or do you think it's ridiculous?
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 09:15:29 AM »
Quote from: LazerXFace on November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him. i think that if people stopped thinking about God, then he would dissapear and no longer exist.

is that probable at all or do you think it's ridiculous?

you're an idiot.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2008, 09:26:38 AM »
Quote from: LazerXFace on November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him. i think that if people stopped thinking about God, then he would dissapear and no longer exist.

is that probable at all or do you think it's ridiculous?

That idea has only been proposed a million times and also been featured in D&D style novels.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2008, 10:20:55 AM »
Quote from: LazerXFace on November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him.

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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 10:38:35 AM »
So you believe the subconscious mind can create an actual entity?  Does that mean Santa Clause exists but only because billions of children believe in him?
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 11:01:58 AM »
Quote from: LazerXFace on November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him. i think that if people stopped thinking about God, then he would dissapear and no longer exist.

is that probable at all or do you think it's ridiculous?

God as a concept exists as a concept because the concept is invented by imagination.

As for God as an entity, I am as confident as I can be, that beliefs do not determine reality. More like, reality influences beliefs.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2008, 11:04:26 AM »
Quote from: ﮎingulaЯiτy on November 21, 2008, 11:01:58 AM
As for God as an entity, I am as confident as I can be, that beliefs do not determine reality. More like, reality influences beliefs.

So, what of placebos?
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM »
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power. Anyone a fan of Morrowind? Basically the same way a spirit or daedra transcends to god.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2008, 11:09:20 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 21, 2008, 11:04:26 AM
So, what of placebos?
Beliefs can change body chemistry and behavior... which in turn does affect reality, but on their own they seem meaningless.

To be fair, I should have said, "directly".
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2008, 11:09:55 AM »
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power. Anyone a fan of Morrowind? Basically the same way a spirit or daedra transcends to god.

I see what you mean.

I played Morrowind long enough to be so bored I fell asleep.   :-\
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008, 11:13:01 AM »
Quote from: Moonlit on November 21, 2008, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power. Anyone a fan of Morrowind? Basically the same way a spirit or daedra transcends to god.

I see what you mean.

I played Morrowind long enough to be so bored I fell asleep.   :-\

It's a fun game when you completely say Fuck you to the story line and just go around killing things. I leveled up too much, it got boring when no one could hit me anymore, and I had 100% absorb against magic. So I killed a vivec guard without being seen, then wore the armor. It made it more interesting because every vivec guard from that point on attacks you and you can kill them without getting in trouble. Quick way to get rich.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008, 12:38:28 PM »
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power.

Sounds like the Ori.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2008, 12:41:12 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 21, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power.

Sounds like the Ori.

Interesting.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 01:39:48 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on November 21, 2008, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: LazerXFace on November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him. i think that if people stopped thinking about God, then he would dissapear and no longer exist.

is that probable at all or do you think it's ridiculous?

That idea has only been proposed a million times and also been featured in D&D style novels.

And Terry Pratchett's Small Gods.

And Stargate SG-1.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »
Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 21, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power.

Sounds like the Ori.
Wait, I thought they didn't need worshipers to gain power, the ascended ones that guided the ori had just agreed not to interfere on our side of the universe, but they had made no promises about their subjects.

Though now I can't remember why they want worshipers, so you might be right.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2008, 01:55:00 PM »
Quote from: Wendigo on November 21, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: goldstein on November 21, 2008, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: LazerXFace on November 21, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
i believe that a God does exist, but only because people believe in him. i think that if people stopped thinking about God, then he would dissapear and no longer exist.

is that probable at all or do you think it's ridiculous?

That idea has only been proposed a million times and also been featured in D&D style novels.

And Terry Pratchett's Small Gods.

And Stargate SG-1.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 21, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power.

Sounds like the Ori.

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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2008, 01:58:30 PM »
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 21, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 21, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
I think he meant more along the lines of, he gets power from us worshiping him, he is a real thing, but if we stopped worshiping him he'd lose his power.

Sounds like the Ori.
Wait, I thought they didn't need worshipers to gain power, the ascended ones that guided the ori had just agreed not to interfere on our side of the universe, but they had made no promises about their subjects.

Though now I can't remember why they want worshipers, so you might be right.

They needed the power to wipe out the The Others.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2008, 02:01:09 PM »
Sorry, Hara, you beat me to it. I just skimmed through the thread.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2008, 02:14:13 PM »
Quote from: Moonlit on November 21, 2008, 10:38:35 AM
So you believe the subconscious mind can create an actual entity?  Does that mean Santa Clause exists but only because billions of children believe in him?

See Terry Pratchett's Hogfather

basically the big TP has this concept explored, expanded, played with and accepted.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2008, 02:49:22 PM »
I love Terry Pratchett. :D He may be one of the best authors ever.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2008, 02:56:26 PM »
Quote from: Wendigo on November 21, 2008, 02:49:22 PM
I love Terry Pratchett. :D He may be one of the best authors ever.

Agreed, I got Nation on audiobook the other day to make my 2 hour commutes more interesting and it's a return to the form he lost a bit with 'making money'
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2008, 03:16:35 PM »
I haven't read either, so I don't know about it, unfortunately. Although, one thing that I never understood is, where does Death make his transition from being this malevolent entity he seems to be in The Colour of Magic, to just being an innocent person who just happens to be good at his job, albeit rather bored with it?
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2008, 03:21:55 PM »
In the first book you're seeing him more through Rincewind's eyes.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 03:24:39 PM »
Really? Well, that would explain his more villainous nature, Rincewind being the coward that he is.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2008, 03:26:39 PM »
Or he changed to suit the needs of the author, as often happens with characters in a long series.
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Re: god feeds off thought waves
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2008, 03:42:43 AM »
Could have been another Death perhaps? The Auditors tried to have 'Bill Door' killed and replaced. Perhaps the malevolent death had too much of a personality.
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