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The sun is flat

true
5 (35.7%)
false
9 (64.3%)

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Voting closed: May 27, 2006, 12:15:19 PM

are the sun and the moon flat as well?

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Rollingonthefloorlaughing

are the sun and the moon flat as well?
« on: May 27, 2006, 12:15:19 PM »
oh my gawd!!! I have finally found the meaning. Finally someone that understands me.

just one question...

Are the sun and the moon flat as well? How about the universe? And the stars?

Much love,

She whom is thankful for the reason to smile and laugh all evening.

L.

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GeoGuy

are the sun and the moon flat as well?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2006, 12:22:11 PM »
I doubt anyone knows as they've never been there, but if Earth is flat than it's likely that the sun is flat as well.

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Erasmus

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2006, 10:13:54 AM »
Certainly the sun continues to look circular when viewed from different angles, so probably it's round.  This of course is aside from the fact that it shines like a spotlight.
Why did the chicken cross the Möbius strip?

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2006, 10:19:17 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Certainly the sun continues to look circular when viewed from different angles, so probably it's round.  This of course is aside from the fact that it shines like a spotlight.


How would a sherical object that emitts light in all directions create a spotlight?

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Erasmus

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2006, 10:36:06 AM »
Quote from: "MiniCooper"
How would a sherical object that emitts light in all directions create a spotlight?


Obviously it doesn't emit the same amount of light in all directions.
Why did the chicken cross the Möbius strip?

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2006, 11:56:41 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "MiniCooper"
How would a sherical object that emitts light in all directions create a spotlight?


Obviously it doesn't emit the same amount of light in all directions.


And how would it know which direction it would need to send all the hydrogen (is it hydrogen in the sun? if it isn't replace hydrogen with whatever the sun burns) to be burned and send the light towards the earth?

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TheSilentEdge

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2006, 04:28:18 PM »
Almost every celestial body appears circular to us -

From this we may conclude that:
a) Almost every celestial body is flat and circular, but faces us.
Or
b) Almost every celestial body is spherical.

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Erasmus

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2006, 09:19:52 AM »
Quote from: "MiniCooper"
And how would it know which direction it would need to send all the hydrogen (is it hydrogen in the sun? if it isn't replace hydrogen with whatever the sun burns) to be burned and send the light towards the earth?


Um, the sun doesn't send hydrogen anywhere.  At least, if it does, it isn't really relevant for what direction it shines in.

Also, there are plenty of examples of astronomical objects that emit material in only one direction.  Why is it so hard to believe that the sun is such an object?

-Erasmus
Why did the chicken cross the Möbius strip?

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6strings

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2006, 03:01:28 PM »
Because the scientists said so?

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2006, 11:38:18 AM »
Oops, voted for the wrong one >_> Read the question incorrectly. Is there any way a moderator could move my vote to the other side?
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2006, 02:02:11 PM »
If the sun shines like a spotlight, how is it able to cast shadows on hills where  I live? Massive shadows, as if the "spotlight" has turned 90 degrees to face us when the sun is setting.

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Erasmus

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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2006, 05:50:43 PM »
Quote from: "Solid_Granite"
If the sun shines like a spotlight, how is it able to cast shadows on hills where  I live? Massive shadows, as if the "spotlight" has turned 90 degrees to face us when the sun is setting.


It doesn't emit a cylinder of light straight down; it emits in many directions (a cone) just not all at once.

Devices like flashlights, floodlights, spotlights, and π-lights all have no problem creating shadows.

-Erasmus
Why did the chicken cross the Möbius strip?

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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2006, 07:09:58 PM »
I thought you'd say that, the thing about a spotlight is that it focuses its light in one concentrated area.

Considering what you said about it shining in all directions, not all at once. Okay so it shines in one place at a time.

If your sun is setting where I am, that means the sun is focused at me. That means it can't be focused straight down where it is actually over. They wouldn't get sun, they would look up and see a weird light shining toward the east, until the hill stopped it, then suddenly it would start shining straight down. That doesn't make sense.

If you dispute the above, that means the "spotlight" is actually a light, and the cone is very wide and can illuminate large areas of land and cast shadows sideways. So why can't it cast shadows on the other side of the world? Does our atmosphere prevent us from seeing the sun when it moves too far away?

What you are suggesting is the atmosphere bends light like thick glass would. Our atmosphere isn't made of thick glass. Air doesn't bend light that efficiently. If the flying planes and rockets all appear where they are meant to be, then the sun, moon and stars will too.

I can understand how you came to the conclusion that the sun is a spotlight. You envisioned a flat earth, then thought, "wait, how come sun only illuminates part of the earth at a time?", then thought of a spotlight. But that doesn't work, try again.

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ukwarwickdood

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2006, 03:57:17 AM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "MiniCooper"
How would a sherical object that emitts light in all directions create a spotlight?


Obviously it doesn't emit the same amount of light in all directions.


How do you explain limb darkening, or the fantastic elongation effects on sunspots as they pass around the limb of the oblate spheroidal sun, because it certainly gives me the impression it's not flat.

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Dylan Seaton

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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2006, 06:01:50 AM »
Regarding this earlier question:

If rejection of an objective gold standard is the FES's raison d'etre; I must applaud your refusal to bow down to such received wisdoms, but warn against explanations that owe rather too much to the quasi serious irrational bastions of organised superstition.  Keep it light!  

Top marks to the concept that we are accelerating at 9.8 ms2 (and all the planets + stars as well is the same general direction), it is a wonderful surreal vision, which in iteself is enough to make is take a step back from swallowing science without questioning it.  Surreality has always been a powerful tool in questioning the world around us - after an instance of bewilderment - ineveitably gives way to rationality.  

Illusionists have always played on this, and we enjoy it before reality envelopes us again.  We understand it better, and are enriched by the challenge to our perceptions.   Comedy as well....

Keep on making those pancakes dance..

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Sas

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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2006, 06:06:29 PM »
ok...
elling people in africa not to use condoms if a crime against humanity. I believe there's a God I just don't believe he is out to make our lives miserable.