Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?

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Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« on: October 20, 2008, 02:05:59 PM »
Videos show what could be air bubbles ascending from the astronauts and craft indicating the footage was taken under water.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/discrepencies-suggest-china-faked-spacewalk-footage.html

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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 03:56:55 PM »
Alex Jones is a nut.

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Johannes

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 04:32:17 PM »
Alex Jones is a nut.

Although they must be faking somehow.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2008, 08:33:57 PM by Johannes Kepler »

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 02:12:23 AM »
I've had conversations with many fellow REers, nothing to do with this site, who believe that NASA has been into space, and many of them doubt whether China really has.

This doesn't really prove anything with regards the "conspiracy" as a whole. It's more down to the fact that nobody really trusts China anyway. It's not as though America or the rest of the world doesn't make up any of what goes into the news- but at least if you don't like America (and live there) you can complain about it on the internet and not have to worry about being locked up

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 04:05:47 AM »
So the Chinese could be in a conspiracy of their own.  Interesting.

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 04:09:24 AM »
If the world is indeed flat, then China probably just wanted it's own round-earth conspiracy because it wouldn't be taken seriously as a superpower without one : p

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 07:38:01 AM »
If China can fake the age of a 14 year old gymnist and get her the Gold I dont think faking something as simple as a spacewalk is going to be a problem.

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 08:43:35 AM »
Videos show what could be air bubbles ascending from the astronauts and craft indicating the footage was taken under water.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/discrepencies-suggest-china-faked-spacewalk-footage.html

 

I lol'd


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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 09:28:41 AM »
Therefore, the Conspiracy exists.


Another victory for FE!

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 11:13:41 AM »
Therefore, the Conspiracy exists.


Another victory for FE!

Perhaps a conspiracy exists in China's space program, but that does not automatically mean that NASA is involved in the same conspiracy.
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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2008, 01:12:58 PM »
Therefore, the Conspiracy exists.


Another victory for FE!

Perhaps a conspiracy exists in China's space program, but that does not automatically mean that NASA is involved in the same conspiracy.

But this will be fun to use when people ask us for evidence of a conspiracy.

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 01:16:16 PM »
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Perhaps a conspiracy exists in China's space program, but that does not automatically mean that NASA is involved in the same conspiracy.

Did you forget that NASA works with the Chineese Space Program every day and coordinates work on the ISS? Did you forget about all of the billion dollar space partnerships NASA has made with the Chineese Space Program?

NASA would have to be in on it.
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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2008, 01:17:36 PM »
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Perhaps a conspiracy exists in China's space program, but that does not automatically mean that NASA is involved in the same conspiracy.

Did you forget that NASA works with the Chineese Space Program every day and coordinates work on the ISS?

And would your source for this be from NASA itself? How do you know theyre not lying about their cooperation with china?

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2008, 01:19:00 PM »
How do you know theyre not lying about their cooperation with china?

Why would NASA lie to us about working closely with the Chineese Space Agency on the ISS and other projects if NASA's supposed to be an honest genuine scientific organization?  ???

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2008, 01:21:27 PM »
How do you know theyre not lying about their cooperation with china?

Why would NASA lie to us about working closely with the Chineese Space Agency on the ISS and other projects if NASA's supposed to be an honest genuine scientific organization?  ???

But, according to FE, they are lying about the shape of the earth. So how can you claim that they are telling the truth about china?

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2008, 02:58:52 PM »
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Perhaps a conspiracy exists in China's space program, but that does not automatically mean that NASA is involved in the same conspiracy.

Did you forget that NASA works with the Chineese Space Program every day and coordinates work on the ISS? Did you forget about all of the billion dollar space partnerships NASA has made with the Chineese Space Program?

Apparently I have.  Could you please remind me?  Last I knew, China is not a partner in the ISS.
Quote from: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/09/griffin_rules_o.html
"ADMINISTRATOR GRIFFIN: There are no plans on our part to work with China on the ISS construction. The ISS program is the International Space Station program. In its present form, it is now approaching 13 years old. The partnerships that led to the development of the ISS are well established. I do not propose to change any of those arrangements at the present time. If China and the United States were to cooperate in the arena of manned space flight, that would be well down the road from where we are starting today, and it would involve projects that for the United States come after the development of the International Space Station."

Quote from: http://www.space.com/news/060926_china_workgroup.html
NASA Administrator Mike Griffin ruled out Chinese participation in the assembly of the International Space Station, adding that any U.S.-Chinese collaboration on human space flight projects would have to happen "well down the road." But Griffin also raised the possibility of nearer-term cooperation with China on Earth science and other unmanned space endeavors.

I see that NASA has considered working with China on space projects, but I find no evidence of any current or ongoing joint projects.
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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2008, 03:27:09 PM »
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I see that NASA has considered working with China on space projects, but I find no evidence of any current or ongoing joint projects.

Are you sure about that?

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/159216main_mg_yuan_full.jpg

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2008, 03:43:48 PM »
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I see that NASA has considered working with China on space projects, but I find no evidence of any current or ongoing joint projects.

Are you sure about that?

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/159216main_mg_yuan_full.jpg


Michael Griffin visited China's space program in 2006.  What have they done together since then?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2008, 07:26:59 AM »
i think the evidence that the chinese have faked that space walk is overwhelming. but: most of the evidence is based on footage and experience made in other countries space programmes. so if you believe nasa faked their space programm most of that article is meaningless when proving you point.

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2008, 08:04:18 AM »
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Perhaps a conspiracy exists in China's space program, but that does not automatically mean that NASA is involved in the same conspiracy.

Did you forget that NASA works with the Chineese Space Program every day and coordinates work on the ISS? Did you forget about all of the billion dollar space partnerships NASA has made with the Chineese Space Program?

NASA would have to be in on it.
'Chinese' is spelled with only 2 'e's.

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2008, 09:04:19 PM »
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I see that NASA has considered working with China on space projects, but I find no evidence of any current or ongoing joint projects.

Are you sure about that?

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/159216main_mg_yuan_full.jpg


Michael Griffin visited China's space program in 2006.  What have they done together since then?

Did you here this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/23/world/main4540071.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4540071

The government does secretive things all the time. Its entirely plausible they are colluding with the Chinese.

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2008, 05:40:38 AM »
Did you here this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/23/world/main4540071.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4540071

The government does secretive things all the time. Its entirely plausible they are colluding with the Chinese.

Plausible?  Perhaps, but not likely.  Why would the US government secretly help the Chinese government's space program when both governments could use a public joint program as a PR event like the US and USSR did with Apollo-Soyuz back in the '70s?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2008, 08:13:21 AM »
Did you here this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/23/world/main4540071.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4540071

The government does secretive things all the time. Its entirely plausible they are colluding with the Chinese.

Plausible?  Perhaps, but not likely.  Why would the US government secretly help the Chinese government's space program when both governments could use a public joint program as a PR event like the US and USSR did with Apollo-Soyuz back in the '70s?
Why would the US secretly help Russia? They could of had a peaceful PR event celebrating US- Russian relationships but no, instead they do it in secret. The Governments are all corrupt.

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2008, 01:03:42 PM »
Did you here this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/23/world/main4540071.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4540071

The government does secretive things all the time. Its entirely plausible they are colluding with the Chinese.

Plausible?  Perhaps, but not likely.  Why would the US government secretly help the Chinese government's space program when both governments could use a public joint program as a PR event like the US and USSR did with Apollo-Soyuz back in the '70s?
Why would the US secretly help Russia? They could of had a peaceful PR event celebrating US- Russian relationships but no, instead they do it in secret. The Governments are all corrupt.
It's one thing to secretly transport a few hundred pounds of weapons grade Uranium to keep it out of terrorist hands.  It's quite another to secretly aid a (hopefully) peaceful space program.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2008, 09:49:17 AM »
Therefore, the Conspiracy exists.


Another victory for FE!

LMAO you haven't had 1 victory at all :D

I want to see pics, real pics of this flat earth but i know none of you will ever provide them :D


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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2008, 10:11:13 AM »
Therefore, the Conspiracy exists.


Another victory for FE!

LMAO you haven't had 1 victory at all :D

I want to see pics, real pics of this flat earth but i know none of you will ever provide them :D

I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2008, 10:24:33 AM »
Therefore, the Conspiracy exists.


Another victory for FE!

LMAO you haven't had 1 victory at all :D

I want to see pics, real pics of this flat earth but i know none of you will ever provide them :D



Great, only thats not a real pic.....so lets see it....

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Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2008, 10:26:50 AM »
Come up with an affordable and practical way to take a picture of the Flat Earth from an altitude that shows it to be flat, and maybe we will.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

Re: Did the Chinese fake their recent spacewalk?
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2008, 10:28:57 AM »
Come up with an affordable and practical way to take a picture of the Flat Earth from an altitude that shows it to be flat, and maybe we will.

Ok in that case show me a real pic of the ice wall that holds us all in....