If there is an "ICE WALL"...

Why is the temperature at the edge of the "flat earth" so low? It must be low enough to keep water frozen but why the great differing temperatures?

I would imagine that its the same reason that Antarctica is so cold.
Because the suns radiation doesn't strike it directly. Remember, the FAQ states that the sun acts like a spotlight to produce the same effect as the sun on a RE would.

I would imagine that its the same reason that Antarctica is so cold.
Because the suns radiation doesn't strike it directly. Remember, the FAQ states that the sun acts like a spotlight to produce the same effect as the sun on a RE would.

So does that mean the sun (in a flat earth perspective) is also flat, or even concave/convex. I can't remember which one means bend inwards.

I'm not sure, it probably is. I think they have this info in the FAQ if you want to look it up.

I only saw "spotlight".

But without some sort of rim around the sun edge the light would be cast pretty much over the entire planet.

So does that mean the sun (in a flat earth perspective) is also flat, or even concave/convex. I can't remember which one means bend inwards.

It doesn't make a difference for the question of the angle at which the sun's rays strike the ice wall.

-Erasmus

If your beliefs are so strong in the fact that there is an "ice wall" around the edges of the earth, why haven't you flown over it/sailed a boat to it/seen it from space and brought back PHOTOGRAPHIC AND SCIENTIFIC PROOF of it?

Answer that.

And I will not accept the answer "You can't see it. It's invisible." That just makes you look insane.

Also, I have flown from Canada all the way back around the Earth (not in one flight) and I have seen no such thing as an "ice wall". Give me proof, and I might believe you.

And I will not accept the answer "You can't see it. It's invisible." That just makes you look insane.

It's inv.... ah, right, sorry.  No, it's guarded by a secret police force.

Also, I have flown from Canada all the way back around the Earth (not in one flight) and I have seen no such thing as an "ice wall".

Read the FAQ.

Give me proof, and I might believe you.

What makes you think I care whether you believe me?

-Erasmus

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And I will not accept the answer "You can't see it. It's invisible." That just makes you look insane.

It's inv.... ah, right, sorry.  No, it's guarded by a secret police force.

Love the "secret police force" thing. Really quite funny. Is that really the best you can do?'

If any of your group really cared to prove this, they would have at least made an attempt to go out and get some sort of physical or otherwise evidence.

Edit: Oops, also forgot to mention the other inconsistencies that I was thinking about.

1. How does the ice wall get past the equator, where it would surely melt?
2. How does this ice wall get past the eyes of 6 billion people? Surely someone would have to notice it.

If any of your group really cared to prove this, they would have at least made an attempt to go out and get some sort of physical or otherwise evidence.

You've made two mistakes:

1)  not realizing the ruthlessness of the Ice Wall police, and
2)  not realizing that, as far as I can tell, nobody in the group really cares to prove it.  Mostly we just care about disproving your disproofs.

1. How does the ice wall get past the equator, where it would surely melt?

It doesn't have feet or wheels or anything; it stays where it is.  It is safe from the scorching heat of the tropical climes.

2. How does this ice wall get past the eyes of 6 billion people? Surely someone would have to notice it.

It's easy not to notice something when it's thousands of miles away.

-Erasmus

How New Zealand has been evading me all these years, I'll never know.

And why are the temputures so much colder around the north pole?

And why are the temputures so much colder around the north pole?

Same reason as on the round earth, it's one of the two farthest points from the equator.

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So does that mean the sun (in a flat earth perspective) is also flat, or even concave/convex. I can't remember which one means bend inwards.

It doesn't make a difference for the question of the angle at which the sun's rays strike the ice wall.

-Erasmus

Way to understand what I meant.

What I am saying is, if the sunlight was coming sirectly off the surface of a flat sun then the light would be spread over the entire planet. You would need some concaving of the sun to produce the spotlight.

It's easy not to notice something when it's thousands of miles away.

-Erasmus

What about people who have been to the south pole?

LOL FAKE OMG!

Nobody GOES to the South Pole, it's not there >_>

LOL OMFG WHERES THE PHONE

Actually, the angle of sunlight does infact, affect the heat of an object. If you shine a flashlight at a 15 degree angle to the wall, it would produce a very dim light, because most of it is spread out. If you shine it at a 90 degree angle, it would then be much brighter and more concentrated.

The same effect happens with the heat from the sun.

Nobody GOES to the South Pole, it's not there >_>

LOL OMFG WHERES THE PHONE

Actually, the angle of sunlight does infact, affect the heat of an object. If you shine a flashlight at a 15 degree angle to the wall, it would produce a very dim light, because most of it is spread out. If you shine it at a 90 degree angle, it would then be much brighter and more concentrated.

The same effect happens with the heat from the sun.

Uh, no... Luminosity is affected by distance, not angle.  What difference would there be if you shined a light 4" above an ice cube or if you shined the same light 4" away on the side of the cube?

Another thing- ICE FLOATS!!!  So this means that the ice wall, which is only 150 ft high, must be on a land mass!  What is this new continent?  Why bother with an ice wall - the FE is surrounded by land!

Uh, no... Luminosity is affected by distance, not angle.  What difference would there be if you shined a light 4" above an ice cube or if you shined the same light 4" away on the side of the cube?

Mattz is correct, but you may merely have misinterpreted his claim.  He wasn't suggesting that the angle at which light strikes an object affects how much luminous energy hits it, but rather, the angle at which the light hits a surface is the determining factor.

The general rule governing attenuation of light is that a given solid angle of light irradiates a surface intersecting it with constant radiant energy -- i.e., that does not depend on the surface are of that intersection.  From this fact you can derive both the inverse square law of light attenuation (because the intersection of a plane with a given solid angle goes with the inverse square of distance) and the law that mattz describes (which is related to the cosine of the angle between the surface normal and the axis of the angle).

-Erasmus

Way to understand what I meant.

Thanks!

What I am saying is, if the sunlight was coming sirectly off the surface of a flat sun then the light would be spread over the entire planet. You would need some concaving of the sun to produce the spotlight.

Yeah, why would you need that?  What fundamental law of nature dictates that either of the things you claim is true?  Or is it just more "common sense"?

Furthermore, why does the sun need to be a spotlight in order to keep the Ice Wall cold?  Even if the sun did shine on the Ice Wall, it would still be colder there, because the Ice Wall is farther from the sun and because sunlight hits the ice wall at a lower angle.

-Erasmus

Why is the temperature at the edge of the "flat earth" so low? It must be low enough to keep water frozen but why the great differing temperatures?

How about because it's at the edge, touching the icy cold of space?

Or, as is more common an explaination, the sun travels around the surface of the earth in a path that is basically doughnut shaped above the equator.  The sun's rays are focused in a cone, so the equator get's the majority, while the the north pole and the south rim are furtherest away from the focus, so get less heat.  The Doughnut wobbles slightly changing the actual focal point between the Tropics of Capricorn and Cancer, producing the variations known as the seasons.