And you think Palin is stupid.

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And you think Palin is stupid.
« on: October 07, 2008, 11:15:09 PM »
 When you interview for a job, here is a hint: make sure you know what the job is. Joe Biden failed that test last Thursday. He couldn’t even get right what a vice president does, but the media didn’t notice.

The media is all over itself about how smart and experienced Biden is. Political analyst Charlie Cook is quoted in the Washington Post on Saturday as saying “Biden is clearly so much more knowledgeable, by a factor of about a million.” Saturday Night Live does a skit about Biden being smart, if slimy. Meanwhile, Governor Sarah Palin is treated as being nothing more than a simpleton.

Yet, take Biden’s statement from the debate on the role of the vice president:

Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.

And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit.

The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive, and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.


One should be careful when throwing around terms such as “most dangerous” and “bizarre.” But Biden is confusing which part of the Constitution covers the Executive Branch (it is Article II, not Article I). More importantly, the notion that the vice president can preside over the Senate only when there is a tie vote is simply wrong. Nor is it true that the only legislative involvement the vice president has is to break tie votes. The vice president is the president of the Senate, where he interprets the rules and can only be overridden by a vote of 60 senators.

Early vice presidents spent a lot of time in the Senate. Thomas Jefferson even spent his time writing “A Manual of Parliamentary Practice: for the Use of the Senate of the United States.” Modern vice presidents may show up only when they think tie votes will occur, but that is their choice.

This isn’t rocket science. The Constitution on this point is very straightforward: “The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.”

Instead, it was Palin who got it right. Besides correctly stating that the vice president holds positions in both the executive and legislative branches, she also noted that:

Of course, we know what a vice president does. And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chooses to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are.

Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 07:44:13 AM »
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2008, 08:46:07 AM »
Wow. That was some amazing journalism their Wardawg. Did you realize Palin answered no question and read from a script? No? Yeah... she is a genius. Also, BIDEN IS HAWT!


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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2008, 08:48:09 AM »
Wow. That was some amazing journalism their Wardawg. Did you realize Palin answered no question and read from a script? No? Yeah... she is a genius. Also, BIDEN IS HAWT!

Did you see the Colbert Report after that?  Epic.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2008, 08:51:47 AM »
Wow. That was some amazing journalism their Wardawg. Did you realize Palin answered no question and read from a script? No? Yeah... she is a genius. Also, BIDEN IS HAWT!

Did you see the Colbert Report after that?  Epic.


I did. Which just proves my point. Biden is HAWT.

Also, when Palin went off script she sounded like a moron.

Also, I am pretty.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2008, 08:55:02 AM »
Palin's worse than Biden, hands down.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 08:55:49 AM »
Where the hell is Spiro Agnew when you really need him?

Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2008, 09:47:27 AM »
Also, when Palin went off script she sounded like a moron.


That's because she is a moron.  She is a pentacost, meaning she chooses to align herself with a sect of Christianity that believes in faith healing and speaking in tounges.  She has stated on numerous occasions that her position as Governor of Alaska provided her with foreign policy experience.  She actually seems to believe that she has been chosen based on her qualifications.

Well, I guess, once you accept that her qualifications include having a vagina (to steal votes from racist democrats in liu of Billary II) and being more stupid than the average American, she was chosen based on her qualifications.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 09:49:31 AM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 09:51:38 AM »
Dick Cheney is dangerous....
I didn't read the rest.  But I agree with that.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 09:55:10 AM »
Cool, Biden got something wrong.  That doesn't change the fact that Palin is much worse.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 10:00:52 AM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

I hate putting labels on everything.  It's really dumb to say "I'm a Republican" these days.  The only reason anyone is a "republican" anymore is because it's what's popular.  Republicans don't act like Republicans and Democrats don't act like Democrats.  None of them stand for anything but idiocy.  Fuck all of them.  I'm not voting on someone because they won a fucking popularity contest.  I'm voting on the man/woman with the ideals I can agree with.  Not a single person who ran this year seemed to bring anything new to the table.  Just the same old shit with a different name printed on it and big bold letters underneath that say something ridiculous like "its time for change".  The only man I thought worth putting through was Ron Paul and unfortunatly he wasn't popular enough.  Oh well...independent party it is.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2008, 10:02:56 AM »
I am probably going to be writing myself in again this year. Anyone care to begin my viral campaign across the interwebs?


Also... Left wing my balls bizznatch. Palin is a moron. :-)

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2008, 10:19:40 AM »
And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also.

Did she even graduate from high school?

Sorry WarDogg.. I read the entire post, and still think Biden has a lot more going for him in the smarts department.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2008, 10:25:45 AM »
And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also.

Did she even graduate from high school?

Sorry WarDogg.. I read the entire post, and still think Biden has a lot more going for him in the smarts department.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 10:33:00 AM »
Thread was tl;dr.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2008, 10:49:07 AM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

Yes, I read his post, so he needs a civics lesson.  So what?  Do you really think that it makes any kind of difference?

Look what you've got in our lovely, BS two party system is two puppets.  One puppet blathers on in a way that pleases a bunch of idiots that call themselves Republicans.  The other puppet spews nonsense that pleases a bunch of morons calling themselves Democrats.  There's one guy with a hand up the ass of each puppet, laughing at the idiots who think there's a difference!

We live in a plutocracy, pure and simple.  The PACs and Lobby groups tell congress which laws to pass to help continue the rape of the people in general.  This is how it has been since shortly after government was invented and politicians realized that most people are stupid and easily manipulated.

It matters very little, our supposed capitalist representational replublic is being converted into a socialist theocracy as we speak.  Don't you get it?  Machiavelli was pulling his punches, and things haven't changed an iota since.  Our government system is an illusion.  I would have thought that more people here, of all places, would realize this.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2008, 10:50:20 AM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

Yes, I read his post, so he needs a civics lesson.  So what?  Do you really think that it makes any kind of difference?

Look what you've got in our lovely, BS two party system is two puppets.  One puppet blathers on in a way that pleases a bunch of idiots that call themselves Republicans.  The other puppet spews nonsense that pleases a bunch of morons calling themselves Democrats.  There's one guy with a hand up the ass of each puppet, laughing at the idiots who think there's a difference!

We live in a plutocracy, pure and simple.  The PACs and Lobby groups tell congress which laws to pass to help continue the rape of the people in general.  This is how it has been since shortly after government was invented and politicians realized that most people are stupid and easily manipulated.

It matters very little, our supposed capitalist representational replublic is being converted into a socialist theocracy as we speak.  Don't you get it?  Machiavelli was pulling his punches, and things haven't changed an iota since.  Our government system is an illusion.  I would have thought that more people here, of all places, would realize this.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2008, 11:51:22 AM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

Yes, I read his post, so he needs a civics lesson.  So what?  Do you really think that it makes any kind of difference?

Look what you've got in our lovely, BS two party system is two puppets.  One puppet blathers on in a way that pleases a bunch of idiots that call themselves Republicans.  The other puppet spews nonsense that pleases a bunch of morons calling themselves Democrats.  There's one guy with a hand up the ass of each puppet, laughing at the idiots who think there's a difference!

We live in a plutocracy, pure and simple.  The PACs and Lobby groups tell congress which laws to pass to help continue the rape of the people in general.  This is how it has been since shortly after government was invented and politicians realized that most people are stupid and easily manipulated.

It matters very little, our supposed capitalist representational replublic is being converted into a socialist theocracy as we speak.  Don't you get it?  Machiavelli was pulling his punches, and things haven't changed an iota since.  Our government system is an illusion.  I would have thought that more people here, of all places, would realize this.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 11:59:07 AM »
Joe Biden is occasionally goofball stupid.  The public would love him as president, like Gerald Ford or GW Bush (the first time around, anyway).

Sarah Palin is dangerous stupid.  I mean, scary stupid.  The fact that she is an election and a heart attack away from being president is fucking terrifying.
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 12:07:49 PM »

Sarah Palin is dangerous stupid.  I mean, scary stupid.  The fact that she is an election and a heart attack away from being president is fucking terrifying.
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2008, 12:31:36 PM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

I hate putting labels on everything.  It's really dumb to say "I'm a Republican" these days.  The only reason anyone is a "republican" anymore is because it's what's popular.  Republicans don't act like Republicans and Democrats don't act like Democrats.  None of them stand for anything but idiocy.  Fuck all of them.  I'm not voting on someone because they won a fucking popularity contest.  I'm voting on the man/woman with the ideals I can agree with.  Not a single person who ran this year seemed to bring anything new to the table.  Just the same old shit with a different name printed on it and big bold letters underneath that say something ridiculous like "its time for change".  The only man I thought worth putting through was Ron Paul and unfortunatly he wasn't popular enough.  Oh well...independent party it is.

I absolutely agree with you.  I am not a republican.  I am a traditionalist.

Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

Yes, I read his post, so he needs a civics lesson.  So what?  Do you really think that it makes any kind of difference?


The funny thing is you say this, and then in the same breath call Palin an idiot.  I'm not sure, but I think a facepalm.jpg might be appropriate here.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2008, 12:41:56 PM »
She is an idiot.

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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2008, 12:43:43 PM »
I absolutely agree with you.  I am not a republican.  I am a traditionalist.

What exactly is that.  You want to keep doing the same thing everytime even if it doesn't work?
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2008, 12:44:03 PM »
Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

I hate putting labels on everything.  It's really dumb to say "I'm a Republican" these days.  The only reason anyone is a "republican" anymore is because it's what's popular.  Republicans don't act like Republicans and Democrats don't act like Democrats.  None of them stand for anything but idiocy.  Fuck all of them.  I'm not voting on someone because they won a fucking popularity contest.  I'm voting on the man/woman with the ideals I can agree with.  Not a single person who ran this year seemed to bring anything new to the table.  Just the same old shit with a different name printed on it and big bold letters underneath that say something ridiculous like "its time for change".  The only man I thought worth putting through was Ron Paul and unfortunatly he wasn't popular enough.  Oh well...independent party it is.

I absolutely agree with you.  I am not a republican.  I am a traditionalist.

Did any of you actually read his quote?  Or are you blind just like the rest of the left wing media?

Yes, I read his post, so he needs a civics lesson.  So what?  Do you really think that it makes any kind of difference?


The funny thing is you say this, and then in the same breath call Palin an idiot.  I'm not sure, but I think a facepalm.jpg might be appropriate here.
Regardless of his answer to the question, which of them would be better suited to do the job. I will give you a hint... he is a man.

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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2008, 12:44:34 PM »
The funny thing is you say this, and then in the same breath call Palin an idiot.  I'm not sure, but I think a facepalm.jpg might be appropriate here.
what hes saying is that yes biden screwed up but hes not as stupid as palin
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2008, 12:44:42 PM »

Sarah Palin is dangerous stupid.  I mean, scary stupid.  The fact that she is an election and a heart attack away from being president is fucking terrifying.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2008, 12:48:09 PM »

Sarah Palin is dangerous stupid.  I mean, scary stupid.  The fact that she is an election and a heart attack away from being president is fucking terrifying.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2008, 01:40:22 PM »

Sarah Palin is dangerous stupid.  I mean, scary stupid.  The fact that she is an election and a heart attack away from being president is fucking terrifying.
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Seriously, if they get elected, and he dies, I will have to expatriate.  Immediately.
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Re: And you think Palin is stupid.
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2008, 01:49:45 PM »

Sarah Palin is dangerous stupid.  I mean, scary stupid.  The fact that she is an election and a heart attack away from being president is fucking terrifying.
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Seriously, if they get elected, and he dies, I will have to expatriate.  Immediately.
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