SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2008, 02:16:33 PM »
NASA is part of the government dumbshit.

Tom, be nice.
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2008, 02:21:55 PM »
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The FAQ makes it clear that "world governments" are part of the conspiracy. If, as you are implying, only certain portions of these governments (mainly their space agencies) are involved in the conspiracy, it cannot be said that there is a conspiracy "among world governments" or that the governments are "disseminating lies".

So you thought that Sam the Mailman, a government employee, was "in" on the Conspiracy?  ???

No, I have no reason to. Nevertheless, the information in the FAQ is too ambiguous to imply that any specific part of a government should not be "in" on the Conspiracy. When referring to "the government", one would assume that either the government in its entirety or its central elements are implied, unless specified otherwise.
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2008, 02:35:59 PM »
I agree with you.  The FAQ needs to be updated.
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2008, 02:37:18 PM »
I agree with you.  The FAQ needs to be updated.

How much do you want to bet that it won't be?
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2008, 02:37:38 PM »
I agree with you.  The FAQ needs to be updated.

And who better than the "Global Moderator"?

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2008, 02:45:39 PM »
Back onto subject, one of the points of this whole thing is to promote a market for private space exploration, which is being sponsored by NASA.  Why would they be paying millions for companies to do this if it's impossible, and what is the profit of letting all these companies in on the conspiracy, when its NASA paying them?

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2008, 02:50:39 PM »
Back onto subject, one of the points of this whole thing is to promote a market for private space exploration, which is being sponsored by NASA.  Why would they be paying millions for companies to do this if it's impossible, and what is the profit of letting all these companies in on the conspiracy, when its NASA paying them?

Hmmm... difficult. NASA could be promoting the commercialisation of space travel in order to "expand the market", so to speak. Not sure if that makes sense, but it will surely pop up as a pro FE argument.
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2008, 02:50:58 PM »
I registered just to comment on this. SpaceX has a video starting at takeoff and uncut all the way into space. The video clearly shows the curvature of the Earth in the background.

And then your comment failed.  The "curvature" of the earth you see is actually the round spotlight of the sun shinning down on the flat earth surface.

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2008, 02:57:12 PM »
Back onto subject, one of the points of this whole thing is to promote a market for private space exploration, which is being sponsored by NASA.  Why would they be paying millions for companies to do this if it's impossible, and what is the profit of letting all these companies in on the conspiracy, when its NASA paying them?

Hmmm... difficult. NASA could be promoting the commercialisation of space travel in order to "expand the market", so to speak. Not sure if that makes sense, but it will surely pop up as a pro FE argument.

In addition, these things are going to have to get patented, and other companies may buy these spacecrafts on the free market for their own space ventures instead of making their own.  That would happen without NASA's help.  Since it may happen in countries other than the US.

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2008, 03:02:34 PM »
Hmmm... difficult. NASA could be promoting the commercialisation of space travel in order to "expand the market", so to speak. Not sure if that makes sense, but it will surely pop up as a pro FE argument.

Another thing, I do not see any way for NASA to profit from an expansion of the market.  NASA gets their budget from congress, they are not a business that sells a product.  They are giving these companies money for these projects.  Companies are in the business of making profit, I suppose they could pocket some of the money left over from NASA (After paying everybody off).  However, that would mean that they only make a profit from NASA?  Because what product are they offering the consumer?  "hey we just sent a rocket into space, you wanna pay us for that?"

That does not equal longevity for a company, if they are reliant on NASA for profits, but can offer nothing in return.

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2008, 03:04:32 PM »
Hmmm... difficult. NASA could be promoting the commercialisation of space travel in order to "expand the market", so to speak. Not sure if that makes sense, but it will surely pop up as a pro FE argument.

Another thing, I do not see any way for NASA to profit from an expansion of the market.  NASA gets their budget from congress, they are not a business that sells a product.  They are giving these companies money for these projects.  Companies are in the business of making profit, I suppose they could pocket some of the money left over from NASA (After paying everybody off).  However, that would mean that they only make a profit from NASA?  Because what product are they offering the consumer?  "hey we just sent a rocket into space, you wanna pay us for that?"

That does not equal longevity for a company, if they are reliant on NASA for profits, but can offer nothing in return.

Like I said, I'm not sure if that made sense. I was simply implying that they will find a way to incorporate SpaceX into the conspiracy, so there's no point even going down that road.
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2008, 03:44:27 PM »
but if NASA is part of the government and they are all on it why not just keep the money (the people already working there) to themselves instead of splitting funds and dividing it up amongst more people?

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2008, 04:05:35 PM »
but if NASA is part of the government and they are all on it why not just keep the money (the people already working there) to themselves instead of splitting funds and dividing it up amongst more people?

That was one point I was trying to make, but also, why would any company agree to this?  They don't really have a product they can market to consumers because they are being funded to make something that is fake right?  Sure they could take some profit off of what NASA gives them, but why when they could develop an actual product to market to people and make billions.

It just sounds stupid to me, kinda like when Dr. Evil said:  "Why make billions when we could make.....millions?"


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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2008, 04:42:05 PM »
NASA is part of the government dumbshit.
You used to be funny with these occasional bullshits. Now, you're just getting more and more unoriginal.

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2008, 04:45:43 PM »
This is interesting, from wikipedia: 

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SpaceX was founded in June 2002 by Musk who has invested $100 million of his own money as of March 2006. On August 4, 2008 SpaceX accepted a further $20 million investment from the Founders Fund.[1]

SpaceX had 160 employees in November 2005 and more than 500 by July 2008.[2] [3] The launch crew in the Marshall Islands has 25 people with 6 in mission control. This small number, compared to similar space launch companies is part of Musk's design to reduce costs. Musk believes the high prices of other space-launch services are driven in part by unnecessary bureaucracy. He's stated that one of his goals is to improve the cost and reliability of access to space, ultimately by a factor of ten.

In January 2005, SpaceX bought a 10% stake in Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd.

That is a lot of money to invest into something that you can't market to anybody.

EDIT:  here's the link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2008, 05:16:29 PM »
I agree with you.  The FAQ needs to be updated.

And who better than the "Global Moderator"?

I'll see what I can do.  I don't want to just go in and overhaul the whole thing.
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2008, 05:18:24 PM »
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That is a lot of money to invest into something that you can't market to anybody.

What makes you think that they're investing it?

Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2008, 12:00:43 AM »
What makes you think that they're investing it?

The payments of money to purchase stock?  That is typical way that companies demonstrate investments in another company.

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2008, 01:15:47 AM »
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The payments of money to purchase stock?  That is typical way that companies demonstrate investments in another company.

What's the point of investing millions of dollars in a company whose only product is a few photoshops and fake videos?  ???

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2008, 05:33:02 AM »
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The payments of money to purchase stock?  That is typical way that companies demonstrate investments in another company.

What's the point of investing millions of dollars in a company whose only product is a few photoshops and fake videos?  ???

Maybe you should sick the SEC on them, Tom.  Sounds like a serious case of investor fraud.

Edit: Never mind, doesn't look like they went public yet.  Still, they are obviously defrauding someone if their only actual products are "a few photoshops and fake videos".
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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2008, 06:20:01 AM »
What's the point of investing millions of dollars in a company whose only product is a few photoshops and fake videos?  ???

Well, Disney bought Pixar to make movies, but somehow, I don't think that is the type of investment you are referring to.

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2008, 07:57:20 AM »
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The payments of money to purchase stock?  That is typical way that companies demonstrate investments in another company.

What's the point of investing millions of dollars in a company whose only product is a few photoshops and fake videos?  ???

Sounds like evidence against the conspiracy to me.  So I ask you the same question.

Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2008, 08:45:13 AM »
I registered just to comment on this. SpaceX has a video starting at takeoff and uncut all the way into space. The video clearly shows the curvature of the Earth in the background.

And then your comment failed.  The "curvature" of the earth you see is actually the round spotlight of the sun shinning down on the flat earth surface.

I don't think that the 'spotlight' is so sharp. Where I live it takes a couple of hours to go from light to dark. That would mean that there should be a diffusion or blending zone. If there is more Earth past that point, then it should blend evenly into it; it shouldn't go from completely white to completely black.

Also, as the vehicle spins, the curvature should distort as the perspective changes. If I'm looking at a circular plate at an angle, it appears as a "flatter" ellipse. As I twist around my own axis, the minor and major axis should rotate showing "lobes" in the plate.

However, the "curvature" remains constant indicating that the curvature from any point to the horizon remains constant.

Re: SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 1 Rocket Into Orbit
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2008, 02:38:53 PM »
think of the diffusion this way, earth is a sphere with VERY little light not coming from the sun. The atmosphere is incredibly thin compared to what us RE say the earth's diameter is. so if you only count the sun as the only important source of light in this scenario and the thickness of the atmosphere is added into it he equation the earths diffusion line shouldn't appear to large

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« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2008, 08:59:30 AM »
I registered just to comment on this. SpaceX has a video starting at takeoff and uncut all the way into space. The video clearly shows the curvature of the Earth in the background.

And then your comment failed.  The "curvature" of the earth you see is actually the round spotlight of the sun shinning down on the flat earth surface.
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I don't think that the 'spotlight' is so sharp. Where I live it takes a couple of hours to go from light to dark. That would mean that there should be a diffusion or blending zone. If there is more Earth past that point, then it should blend evenly into it; it shouldn't go from completely white to completely black.

Also, as the vehicle spins, the curvature should distort as the perspective changes. If I'm looking at a circular plate at an angle, it appears as a "flatter" ellipse. As I twist around my own axis, the minor and major axis should rotate showing "lobes" in the plate.

However, the "curvature" remains constant indicating that the curvature from any point to the horizon remains constant.