My reason(s) for the world being Round

Left and west are not necesarily the same thing, remember how a FE compass works, and in the RE model it owuld be continents... whereas FE it could be the icewall (which doesnt exist in the RE)

Alright my point was that I was looking at the Earth according to the several nicely rendered FE map images in the Info Reposit thing.  If you were to go left (Ill stop using cardinal directions because we dont even need to mix magnetism into this) of the western coast and continue in that direction invariably, in RE you would hit Asia.  You wont in FE.  Yet people everyday make that course and the sea lanes are well mapped and relatively straight.  If you were to map these sea lanes in RE there would be no curvature because the headings stay the same.  These straight lanes cannot exist in a FE reality?

If you were to go left (Ill stop using cardinal directions because we dont even need to mix magnetism into this) of the western coast and continue in that direction invariably, in RE you would hit Asia.  You wont in FE.  

Picture this:
I'm standing on the beach in Monterey, California.  I turn and face Nevada.  I now look to my left and travel completely in that direction.  I will eventually run into asia.  
Directions are relative.

Yet people everyday make that course and the sea lanes are well mapped and relatively straight.

I don't think so; people make the trip, true, but they do not make the trip based on dead reckoning navigation (since this is more or less impossible in ocean travel). They most likely use a magnetic compass, and navigation using the magnetic north as a reference works exactly the same on FE as it does on RE.

If you were to map these sea lanes in RE there would be no curvature because the headings stay the same.  These straight lanes cannot exist in a FE reality?

You are mixing and matching terms to suit your needs. In one section you say that you won't use cardinal directions, and in the next you reference a constant heading as being the definition of "straight".

In FE, if you followed a constant heading of west, you would leave california and end up in asia.

And the lanes would only appear to have no curvature because your map - based on a spheroid earth - is wrong.

My claim is that, in "real life", these lanes do have curvature. I assert that, in "real life", if you travelled in a dead reckoning straight line, you would sail right off the edge.
This does not happen because people do not navigate like this, and instead use things like compasses and GPS, which work perfectly fine with the FE model.

So I guess I win the aregument!!! Yeah! None of you people can prove a counterexample to my statement which is true, and therefore I am right, the world is round. If I have done what Flat Earth believers believe impossible, obviously the world is NOT flat.

I really don't understand how you can come to that conlclusion, adhiza.

Here is what you said:

Flying from Argentina to Australia OVER ANTARCTICA can only be done on a round earth stupids, not on a flat one, because if you look at the flat world map, you will not see a southern route from Arg to Aus over solid land.

Response 1:
Yes, your claim is true. A trans-antarctic flight is only possible on a round earth.

These flights do not occur in real life.

What you said is no different than if I said:

"Flying from argentina south over the ice wall and into the void can only be done on a flat earth stupid, because if you look at a sphere world map you see there is no edge."

This statement is 100% true, but with no evidence to support the fact that it is actually what happens in real life.

Response 2:
Yes, there certainly is a way to fly from argentina to australia over antarctica: fly south a couple thousand miles until you're over top of the ice wall, then head due east (or west) until you're south of australia and head due north. You will have flown from argentina down to the ice wall, around one half of the circumference of the flat earth, and north to australia.

This is exactly what you described, a flight from Argentina to Australia, over antarctica.

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Ok, I provied not one but two counter-examples. I guess you don't win.

the problem may have been in his specifics, he didnt speicify any turns, and turns are easy to feel in an aeroplane, it messes with the inner ear a bit.  and your response 1 is not a response, that is showing absolutly nothing, its just flatly negating what he said, with no explination

This "flatearth" idea is very scary since it shows the beginnings of a return to "unenlightenment" like those experienced in the Dark Ages.  The kind of people that would want to delete their intelligence in order to protect certain aspects of religious text are dangerous people who vote for monsters like George Bush in hopes of advancing the extreme ideas of religious groups at the expense of everything else.  The Repubs played these people like a fiddle  8-) .  Unfortunately, the dopes who voted for religious purposes will only see continued moral decay due to the corrupt decisions that the current govt. have made for financial gain. AND...abortion will NOT be outlawed and Gay people will still be Gay. You morons.  Anyone else, who is not part of this maniacal belief as part of the obvious scam to protect a religious idea...is mentally retarded.  Please stay away from these scary people, nice retarded people!  

Science has been our friend since it began and has been far more accurate and reliable than religion will ever be in helping us cope with the natural world.  Religion was started originally as a way to understand our surroundings before we had science.  Religion may still be needed as a cultural tool for nurturing the morals of people but it should not be used in any way to cope with the natural world which is the job of science.  

Hopefully, the few who would like to deaden our minds out of fear that something might challenge some small bit of information in the Bible and bring the world back to the Dark Ages, remain few.  I too think that humanity is advancing too quickly, but this is just not the way to go about it.  Why can't religion coexist with science?  You people have forgotten that the only purpose of religion is to make the world a better place and of course to praise the almighty Maker.  The words of the Bible do not become ineffectual if some of the paradoxes of the Bible are not up to date with scientific theories.  

This belief about the shape of the earth is so ridicuulous and nothing on this site is remotely convincing or even interesting.  Govt. conspiracy?  You all need to get some sleep or something...

Here's a clue for all of you.  Go climb a tall building or look-out tower and look out;  you will see the earth's curve with your own insane eyes!  There's no need for any other proof.  It's not an illusion and if you still don't believe it at that time, please do yourself and the rest of the world a favor and jump off!

the problem may have been in his specifics, he didnt speicify any turns, and turns are easy to feel in an aeroplane, it messes with the inner ear a bit.

I'm not so sure a very slow turn over a few hundred miles would be as "Easy" to feel as you suggest.

and your response 1 is not a response, that is showing absolutly nothing, its just flatly negating what he said, with no explination

You're right, I am just flatly negating what he said.

Imagine I made the following argument:

If you fly south far enough you either get shot down or you fly off the edge of the earth; this cannot happen on a round earth, so obviously the earth must be flat.

How would you respond, without "flatly negating" my proposal?

The point is that he made a claim without evidentiary support; that you could fly in a straight line from Argentina to Australia, over antarctica. I am saying this claim is false, with equally little (none) evidence. Until he provides proof of his claim, it is no more or less (in)valid than my own.

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the problem may have been in his specifics, he didnt speicify any turns, and turns are easy to feel in an aeroplane, it messes with the inner ear a bit.

I'm not so sure a very slow turn over a few hundred miles would be as "Easy" to feel as you suggest.

Almost certainly not easy to feel.  Try walking/swimming in a straight line with your eyes closed for a little while.  How far do you think you'll get before you're going in a completely different direction from when you started?

Now through some airliner turbulence, course changes to "avoid weather patterns" etc. into the mix and I have strong doubts that a passenger could detect a very slow turn.

if your course deviates when swimming/walking with your eyes closed, the earth must be spinning, hence spherical.

in the right situation the earth could seem flat, like the right medication or something....

It looks like my arguement still holds. I WIN!!!

my foot up your arse

Firstly, you seem to be quite keen on sticking your fungus infected foot up people's asses.

Secondly, if you can't debate my point, you obviously admit that your limited intellect cannot compare to mine. My logic makes sense, and as a result, you have no reply, but must instead reply with a rather retarted statement of "my foot up your arse".

It looks like my arguement still holds. I WIN!!!

LMAO.  You leave, grow a year and a half older, and then return that much wiser, but you still hold the twisted notion that simply saying you've done something proves that you've done it.  OK, fair enough.  You flew from Argentina over Antarctica to Australia in a straight line.  And you refuse to present proof.  And that makes you right, correct?

Well, I regret to inform you that I am God.  I created the world flat.  I made it so that, whenever there was proof of the Earth's shape, it would prove a flat Earth.  For a long while, people knew the Earth was flat.  I got bored of that, so I started messing with them.  I started tinkering with some perception.  I gave certain philosophers flaws that caused them to percieve a round Earth when presented with proof of a flat Earth.  Now, eventually the descendents of these people who I infected with false knowledge began to overtake the ones who knew the truth.  You are obviously descended from one who was planted with false knowledge.  You see, your voyage actually proves that the Earth is flat.  You simply cannot see how because of my trickery.  And I vowed that I would not reveal my intervention until this day in time.  Therefore, the Earth is flat - you simply cannot see it because I have chosen for you not to.  And, as this proves the Earth to be flat, it will not convince you, because I have not lifted your inherent fault of misperception. 

There.  See, we can all make random assertions and present them as proof.  Prove it or GTFO.

Firstly, you seem to be quite keen on sticking your fungus infected foot up people's asses.

Secondly, if you can't debate my point, you obviously admit that your limited intellect cannot compare to mine. My logic makes sense, and as a result, you have no reply, but must instead reply with a rather retarted statement of "my foot up your arse".

How did you know my foot is fungus infected? 

I don't want to debate your point, whatever the hell it was, because you're probably an idiot so it would be a waste of my time, and also because I don't care.

You should spray some disinfectant in your skates more often, love.

I should....

I should also go skating more often!

Nice, an old thread bumped by a moron, containing several other morons.