Athiest World

Wow. Thanks for being late to the discussion.

i'm an atheist that believes in killing christians! i mean they think they're going to heaven anyway right? so i'm, like, doing them a favour, no? they all seriously LOVE being persecuted (to the point where they will wee it even if it isn't happening!) i'm not all just talking about shooting them or anything boring like that (boring! i live in the UK a gunshot wound would be the most exiting thing i've seen in ages!) but if you know your history you'll know that the romans devides many very entertaining ways of offing your 'crazy' monotheist. why not update this for the modern era?

I'm an Athiest that believes that you should be locked up.

i'm an atheist that believes in killing christians! i mean they think they're going to heaven anyway right? so i'm, like, doing them a favour, no? they all seriously LOVE being persecuted (to the point where they will wee it even if it isn't happening!) i'm not all just talking about shooting them or anything boring like that (boring! i live in the UK a gunshot wound would be the most exiting thing i've seen in ages!) but if you know your history you'll know that the romans devides many very entertaining ways of offing your 'crazy' monotheist. why not update this for the modern era?

I believe it's because we're going to kill sadists first.

"I'm an Athiest that believes that you should be locked up."

why? now, we all know that killing people is wrong in and of itself. however, when you slaughter a believer you're not so much 'killing' them as 'sending them to heaven', no? i also believe that your chances with ol' st. paul (or whoever's supposed to be manning the gate these days) are that much better if you die a matyr.

they get to go straight to heaven.
i get to live in a world free of superstition.
our grandchildren get to live, at all.

isn't that what's called a win/win?

No, it's murder.

"I'm an Athiest that believes that you should be locked up."

why? now, we all know that killing people is wrong in and of itself. however, when you slaughter a believer you're not so much 'killing' them as 'sending them to heaven', no? i also believe that your chances with ol' st. paul (or whoever's supposed to be manning the gate these days) are that much better if you die a matyr.

they get to go straight to heaven.
i get to live in a world free of superstition.
our grandchildren get to live, at all.

isn't that what's called a win/win?

No, it's murder.

Debating sense into them is win, killing them makes martyrs, see the tale of Jesus for examples of martyrdom.

"No, it's murder."

but what if i can convince said monotheists that i'm doing them a favour (as i surely would be) and they come forward? volunteering for martyrdom, say? surely then it's more of an assisted-suicide kinda deal? would that not be more palatable?

i'm just trying to make everybody happy here. why would a monotheist want to spend any more time on the mortal plane that absolutely necessary? if i 'martyr' someone they are pretty much guaranteed of a fast track to heaven. I don't want to live in a world full of people with superstitious delusions. what with their whole 'dominion' thing monotheists are clearly a danger to all of us. killing poeple (whilst undoubtedly unpleasant) is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than reversing years of brainwashing (if such a thing were even possible).

i am not a horrible person, i'm just trying to make the world a better place for everyone.

What, convincing morons that they want to die means it isn't murder to kill them? Excuse me, I have some morons to influence. *Goes to Kingman's house*

well technically, i suppose, but i reckon these here 'culture wars' aint gonna be ending with tea, cakes & handshakes. so if some of us have to leave so the rest can stay it might as well be the lot with somewhere to go to that go, as it were.

you know it makes sense...

well technically, i suppose, but i reckon these here 'culture wars' aint gonna be ending with tea, cakes & handshakes. so if some of us have to leave so the rest can stay it might as well be the lot with somewhere to go to that go, as it were.

you know it makes sense...

you're one of those idiots that people cite as an example for religion being a source of morality.

Stop making the rest of us look stupid.

well technically, i suppose, but i reckon these here 'culture wars' aint gonna be ending with tea, cakes & handshakes. so if some of us have to leave so the rest can stay it might as well be the lot with somewhere to go to that go, as it were.

you know it makes sense...

So banning you is just releasing you from the time constraints of posting here. Bye.

Quote from: jakheadfuk on January 30, 2009, 05:29:27 PM

well technically, i suppose, but i reckon these here 'culture wars' aint gonna be ending with tea, cakes & handshakes. so if some of us have to leave so the rest can stay it might as well be the lot with somewhere to go to that go, as it were.

you know it makes sense...

So banning you is just releasing you from the time constraints of posting here. Bye.

You have benefitted him greatly, sparing him from wasting any more time on this part of the internet, he'll be happy about that, it'll be like his own little heaven

That was a blatantly obvious troll.

That was a blatantly obvious troll.

Being one helps spotting them, doesn't it?

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on January 31, 2009, 09:35:28 AM

That was a blatantly obvious troll.

Being one helps spotting them, doesn't it?

Yes

You make it seem like without being part of the Christian faith, you lack all sense of any "moral compass".  This is not true, I'm sure all of us know many Atheists who are much more kind and caring than another "Christian" we know of. 

You make it seem like without being part of the Christian faith, you lack all sense of any "moral compass".  This is not true, I'm sure all of us know many Atheists who are much more kind and caring than another "Christian" we know of. 

No one is always kind and caring. Everyone has weak spots. No one is truly "Good"

I'm sure all of us know many Atheists who are much more kind and caring than another "Christian" we know of.  

Isaac Asimov vs Tomas de Torquemada is an excellent example.

Obviously no one is always good, humans are inherently evil in my opinion.  But if you are atheist, you can still have morals.

Obviously no one is always good, humans are inherently evil in my opinion.  But if you are atheist, you can still have morals.

Based upon my experience; I disagree with your opinion, and fully support your statement.

I've always wondered how those who don't believe in God use the language and concepts of a transcendent Good. To be moral, morality must exist beyond the subject, or it's useless to speak of.

I've always wondered how those who don't believe in God use the language and concepts of a transcendent Good. To be moral, morality must exist beyond the subject, or it's useless to speak of.

Then would we not also have to give up the concept of humanity, because there would be nothing defining us from the other animals. There is nothing beyond the subject to the word human. We watch as animals get more intelligent they follow the same traits. Usually similar group behaviors form, because dealing with social structures requires intelligence. As intelligence increases, certain rules come about.

These inherent rules are ones based on empathy, intelligence, and tact. So in a roundabout way, perhaps good is an inherent thing, because it is logical.

...because there would be nothing defining us from the other animals.

Yet humans are just animals, why seperate them from other animals with definition?

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 01:19:32 PM

...because there would be nothing defining us from the other animals.

Yet humans are just animals, why seperate them from other animals with definition?

I didn't say you should. How are we human then?

Genetics.

Genetics.

I didn't say homo sapien, I meant human in the way people describe humanity.

Quote from: Dead Kangaroo on February 07, 2009, 05:03:23 PM

Genetics.

I didn't say homo sapien, I meant human in the way people describe humanity.

The term "humanity" is mainly used by elitist delusional ignorant guilt mongerers.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 05:13:51 PM

Quote from: Dead Kangaroo on February 07, 2009, 05:03:23 PM

Genetics.

I didn't say homo sapien, I meant human in the way people describe humanity.

The term "humanity" is mainly used by elitist delusional ignorant guilt mongerers.

I've heard it used by many people, and I do believe it an ignorant term. Just like good, but I also explained how they are not based on god necessarily but why we would pawn these traits off as being holy in nature. Sorry if I missed my point, I was extremely hung over.

Question. Why do atheist always Have to be the ones who are called immoral as a group even though the inquisition and things like it were caused by religions? I have heard a lot less stories about large groups of atheist going on killing sprees compared to other religions.  If someone does something because they believe it is the right thing to do, it can cause a lot more problems then someone who actually thinks about it and decides for themselves what is right or wrong.

Question. Why do atheist always Have to be the ones who are called immoral as a group even though the inquisition and things like it were caused by religions? I have heard a lot less stories about large groups of atheist going on killing sprees compared to other religions.  If someone does something because they believe it is the right thing to do, it can cause a lot more problems then someone who actually thinks about it and decides for themselves what is right or wrong.

The more extreme religious people aren't doing things because it is the right thing to do, they are doing it because they think there is a reward in it. You'll find more religious people though do things because it is the right thing to do. And most atheists do things because it is the right thing to do.

One is not worse than the other just because it attracts a certain type of people.