In the beginning

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In the beginning
« on: September 18, 2008, 12:42:42 PM »
So, in the begining, when the universe and everything was created in the Big Bang, why were some planets and stars created as spheres but the Earth as a flat disc shape with rocks underneath it?

Re: In the beginning
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 12:46:10 PM »
So, in the begining, when the universe and everything was created in the Big Bang, why were some planets and stars created as spheres but the Earth as a flat disc shape with rocks underneath it?

I thought there were elephants and turtles under it??? ???
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 01:50:07 PM »
No physical reason in this theory, just "because it is special" or some mere "logical" stuff like this.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 02:05:22 PM »
So, in the begining, when the universe and everything was created in the Big Bang, why were some planets and stars created as spheres but the Earth as a flat disc shape with rocks underneath it?

Were planets and stars created in the big bang?

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 02:09:37 PM »
So, in the begining, when the universe and everything was created in the Big Bang, why were some planets and stars created as spheres but the Earth as a flat disc shape with rocks underneath it?

Were planets and stars created in the big bang?

Yes

What is your theory?
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 03:00:48 PM »
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 03:04:20 PM »
I'm open to listen to alternatives.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 03:07:46 PM »
Big Bang Theory is your main alternative at the moment

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 03:10:02 PM »
Big Bang Theory is your main alternative at the moment

In fact it's what I believe, but the question from The Cat, make me thought he ain't not so sure.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 03:12:05 PM »
Were planets and stars created in the big bang?

Yes

That is gold.

Read the above quote very carefully. Specifically the original question

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 03:16:45 PM »
Read the above quote very carefully. Specifically the original question

He still answered "Yes" to "Were planets and stars created in the Big Bang?"
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 03:18:55 PM »
True. That's probably the best we're gonna get

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 03:20:44 PM »
I'm sorry but I'm totally lost.

Can you be as specific as possible? I'll love to answer.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 03:30:17 PM »
What was created in the Big Bang?

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 06:22:25 PM »
Particles.  Planets, stars, etc clumped and formed later.

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2008, 01:50:57 AM »
Google can explain it better in english than I'll ever can
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2008, 09:33:11 AM »
Particles.  Planets, stars, etc clumped and formed later.

Aha! Now we're getting somewhere!  When the particles started clumping together why did some form round planets and stars but some a flat earth?

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2008, 09:44:23 AM »
Aha! Now we're getting somewhere!  When the particles started clumping together why did some form round planets and stars but some a flat earth?

It is likely that in the past, Dark Energy was a much more rigid flux, and so the Earth formed as layer upon layer of molten rock was compacted onto itself with nowhere to go due to the inertia of the rock in front of it. It would have accelerated at a phenomenal rate during this early formation; perhaps millions of metres per second per second. As the rigid Dark Energy struck the flat underside of this large cooling disk, a large region in front of it, extending for millions of kilometres, was shielded from the Dark Energy, allowing for spherical bodies to form, most of which plummeted straight into the surface of the Earth. As the initial rigidity of Dark Energy subsided for reasons not fully understood, the acceleration of the Earth slowed and the region that was shielded from Dark Energy began to shrink, until finally the heavens as we know them today were struck by the force of Dark Energy and caused to remain where they were.

Dark Energy is still becoming less rigid and less powerful, so in a few billion years we will likely be accelerating much more slowly, and more of the upper atmoplane will have stopped being shielded from Dark Energy and will escape into space, causing much lower air pressure at the surface. The oceans will eventually evaporate due to low pressure, creating an uncontrollable greenhouse effect and the Earth will overheat before Dark Energy spills over the ice wall and acceleration stops altogether, at which point the Earth will be left to slowly cool and eventually collapse into a sphere.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2008, 09:50:46 AM »
Aha! Now we're getting somewhere!  When the particles started clumping together why did some form round planets and stars but some a flat earth?

It is likely that in the past, Dark Energy was a much more rigid flux, and so the Earth formed as layer upon layer of molten rock was compacted onto itself with nowhere to go due to the inertia of the rock in front of it. It would have accelerated at a phenomenal rate during this early formation; perhaps millions of metres per second per second. As the rigid Dark Energy struck the flat underside of this large cooling disk, a large region in front of it, extending for millions of kilometres, was shielded from the Dark Energy, allowing for spherical bodies to form, most of which plummeted straight into the surface of the Earth. As the initial rigidity of Dark Energy subsided for reasons not fully understood, the acceleration of the Earth slowed and the region that was shielded from Dark Energy began to shrink, until finally the heavens as we know them today were struck by the force of Dark Energy and caused to remain where they were.

Dark Energy is still becoming less rigid and less powerful, so in a few billion years we will likely be accelerating much more slowly, and more of the upper atmoplane will have stopped being shielded from Dark Energy and will escape into space, causing much lower air pressure at the surface. The oceans will eventually evaporate due to low pressure, creating an uncontrollable greenhouse effect and the Earth will overheat before Dark Energy spills over the ice wall and acceleration stops altogether, at which point the Earth will be left to slowly cool and eventually collapse into a sphere.

So when this eventually happens do you think that life will be possible on a spherical earth? Do you think that evolution and stuff will sort of start again and there will be amoebae in stasis on the surface that could eventually evolve into creatures, dinosaurs etc?

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 09:57:03 AM »
Aha! Now we're getting somewhere!  When the particles started clumping together why did some form round planets and stars but some a flat earth?

It is likely that in the past, Dark Energy was a much more rigid flux, and so the Earth formed as layer upon layer of molten rock was compacted onto itself with nowhere to go due to the inertia of the rock in front of it. It would have accelerated at a phenomenal rate during this early formation; perhaps millions of metres per second per second. As the rigid Dark Energy struck the flat underside of this large cooling disk, a large region in front of it, extending for millions of kilometres, was shielded from the Dark Energy, allowing for spherical bodies to form, most of which plummeted straight into the surface of the Earth. As the initial rigidity of Dark Energy subsided for reasons not fully understood, the acceleration of the Earth slowed and the region that was shielded from Dark Energy began to shrink, until finally the heavens as we know them today were struck by the force of Dark Energy and caused to remain where they were.

Dark Energy is still becoming less rigid and less powerful, so in a few billion years we will likely be accelerating much more slowly, and more of the upper atmoplane will have stopped being shielded from Dark Energy and will escape into space, causing much lower air pressure at the surface. The oceans will eventually evaporate due to low pressure, creating an uncontrollable greenhouse effect and the Earth will overheat before Dark Energy spills over the ice wall and acceleration stops altogether, at which point the Earth will be left to slowly cool and eventually collapse into a sphere.

Explain how the earth was bombarded bodies in the system but shielded the from the other bodies while it was being accelerated even faster then it is currently without being shot out of the system leaving the spherical bodies behind.  Seems to me from your statement, we would be all that is left of the universe, Flat Earth that is.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 09:57:53 AM »
So when this eventually happens do you think that life will be possible on a spherical earth? Do you think that evolution and stuff will sort of start again and there will be amoebae in stasis on the surface that could eventually evolve into creatures, dinosaurs etc?

I doubt it, considering that the Earth will be radiating as a black body and slowly cooling towards 0 K.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2008, 09:58:38 AM »
Explain how the earth was bombarded bodies in the system but shielded the from the other bodies while it was being accelerated even faster then it is currently without being shot out of the system leaving the spherical bodies behind.  Seems to me from your statement, we would be all that is left of the universe, Flat Earth that is.

Erm... is that English?
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2008, 10:04:33 AM »
Explain how the earth was bombarded bodies in the system but shielded the from the other bodies while it was being accelerated even faster then it is currently without being shot out of the system leaving the spherical bodies behind.  Seems to me from your statement, we would be all that is left of the universe, Flat Earth that is.

Erm... is that English?

Do I need to draw you pictures, or should we just have some virgins explain it to you?
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2008, 10:05:12 AM »
So when this eventually happens do you think that life will be possible on a spherical earth? Do you think that evolution and stuff will sort of start again and there will be amoebae in stasis on the surface that could eventually evolve into creatures, dinosaurs etc?

I doubt it, considering that the Earth will be radiating as a black body and slowly cooling towards 0 K.

So what will happen to DE then? Will it just go away or change to another form of energy?

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2008, 10:06:36 AM »
Explain how the earth was bombarded bodies in the system but shielded the from the other bodies while it was being accelerated even faster then it is currently without being shot out of the system leaving the spherical bodies behind.

Rewriting this sentence so that it makes sense to somebody other than yourself would be a good start.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2008, 10:08:31 AM »
So what will happen to DE then? Will it just go away or change to another form of energy?

It is changing to another form of energy all the time. Kinetic energy, as it accelerates the Earth and the heavens. I don't think it will ever reach zero strength, but it will eventually spill over the ice wall in this model, so that everything on the Earth is directly accelerated by Dark Energy and we would feel weightless.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2008, 10:10:53 AM »
So what will happen to DE then? Will it just go away or change to another form of energy?

It is changing to another form of energy all the time. Kinetic energy, as it accelerates the Earth and the heavens. I don't think it will ever reach zero strength, but it will eventually spill over the ice wall in this model, so that everything on the Earth is directly accelerated by Dark Energy and we would feel weightless.

But would the earth itself not then have kinetic energy or even potential energy if DE stops pushing it upward through space?

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2008, 10:11:40 AM »
But would the earth itself not then have kinetic energy or even potential energy if DE stops pushing it upward through space?

Um, yes. What's your point?
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2008, 08:13:09 AM »
But would the earth itself not then have kinetic energy or even potential energy if DE stops pushing it upward through space?

Um, yes. What's your point?

Well, it's more of a question than a point, really.

When the DE is gone and stops pushing the Earth upward, will the earth then start falling back down the way it's come? On the way will it heat up again?

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 09:29:10 AM »
Well, it's more of a question than a point, really.

When the DE is gone and stops pushing the Earth upward, will the earth then start falling back down the way it's come? On the way will it heat up again?

Why would it go back the other way? ???
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