Maximum tilt of FE?

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Maximum tilt of FE?
« on: September 16, 2008, 04:56:39 AM »
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Well, what do you believe could be the maximum tilt of Earth, before we would feel it, being pulled sideways, water moving (more than tides), and so on? Or even measure it with fex a water level pointed to horizons.

Tilt relative to direction of UA, in degrees starting from 0 as straight "upwards".
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 06:16:51 AM »
Probably 0.1 arc seconds or thereabouts. I'm no expert, though.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 06:44:24 AM »
That is math even I can work out.. I hope.

0.1 arc second of a whole turn = 1 / 12 960 000 ?

With that kind of odds, something must have set the tilt exactly right from the beginning, and/or realigning it when needed. There must be some sort of balancing mechanism?
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 06:50:50 AM »
That is math even I can work out.. I hope.

0.1 arc second of a whole turn = 1 / 12 960 000 ?

With that kind of odds, something must have set the tilt exactly right from the beginning, and/or realigning it when needed. There must be some sort of balancing mechanism?

Dark Energy balances the Earth. It is at its most stable when aligned with its direction of acceleration.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 07:02:37 AM »
Dark Energy balances the Earth. It is at its most stable when aligned with its direction of acceleration.

How?
Rotation?
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 07:06:33 AM »
Dark Energy balances the Earth. It is at its most stable when aligned with its direction of acceleration.

How?
Rotation?

Dark Energy is like a very viscous fluid, almost solid in nature. Imagine placing a coin on the surface of a fluid a hundred times thicker than honey, and then trying to rotate it - its natural state will be to return to have its flat side parallel to the surface of the fluid.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 07:11:16 AM »
So we can conclude that Earth is evenly thick.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 07:12:24 AM »
So we can conclude that Earth is evenly thick.

Not necessarily. All we can conclude is that its thickness is radially symmetrical.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 07:12:56 AM »
There could be any number of mechanisms for why the Earth's surface would be perpendicular to the direction of acceleration, I suppose we'll have to wait for the FE guys to come up with some testable predictions to test the various possibilities...
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2008, 07:19:34 AM »
All we can conclude is that its thickness is radially symmetrical.

Thats right..

I fail to understand your coin-in-honey example though. The coin would eventually sink with the edge first, because A the coin is "heavier" than the honey, and B the edge first would pose the least resistance.

If FE on DE would work like a boat floating on water, that would be stable.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2008, 07:21:26 AM »
I fail to understand your coin-in-honey example though. The coin would eventually sink with the edge first, because A the coin is "heavier" than the honey, and B the edge first would pose the least resistance.

Not if there were sufficient surface tension. It is my view that Dark Energy exhibits a phenomenon similar to surface tension.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2008, 07:26:10 AM »
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DE surface tension.

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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2008, 11:24:01 AM »
I fail to understand your coin-in-honey example though. The coin would eventually sink with the edge first, because A the coin is "heavier" than the honey, and B the edge first would pose the least resistance.

Not if there were sufficient surface tension. It is my view that Dark Energy exhibits a phenomenon similar to surface tension.

Do you have any basis for your assertion that Dark Energy exhibits this sort of behavior, other than pure speculation?  Remember that speculation of an unprovable phenomenon is not something that a zetetic would condone.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2008, 11:55:22 AM »
In which direction does the tilt occur? Is it a set point tilt from one particular side of the earth to another or is it rotational tilt?

If we went as far south as possible anywhere on the earth, how large of a level (the liquid and bubble type) would we have to build in order to see the tilt of the planet?

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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2008, 03:27:41 PM »
Do you have any basis for your assertion that Dark Energy exhibits this sort of behavior, other than pure speculation?  Remember that speculation of an unprovable phenomenon is not something that a zetetic would condone.

Well, the fact that we aren't tipping over is a pretty clear indication that something is stopping us from doing so.
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Re: Maximum tilt of FE?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 01:47:26 AM »
I was going to say "I love the smell of circular reasoning in the morning" but that's not even circular. It's just complete nonsense.

How so? He asked for evidence that Dark Energy does not cause the Earth to tilt. Since if it did such a thing, we would observe a tilt, we can conclude that it does not cause the Earth to tilt because no tilt is observed.
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