The Official Goatse Thread

No the worst thing that has ever happened in the world was your birth.  Although this is a close second.

I'm not a victim here.  But I will be God dammed if I'm going to let her down play its importance or call us as bad as the terrorists.

No the worst thing that has ever happened in the world was your birth.  Although this is a close second.

haha, you really do think it's that terrible.

I'm not a victim here.  But I will be God dammed if I'm going to let her down play its importance or call us as bad as the terrorists.

But you are as bad as the "baddies". For somebody who "isn't" the victim you sure do a good job of acting like one.

September 11th isn't important. Americans like to make it out like it is, fuck knows why... oh wait, I do know why: you like being the "victim".

USA: Poor, poor us americans. September 11.
Let's invade Afghanistan!

Rest of the world: gee, okay. But only because of Sept 11.

USA: That was fun, let's invade Iraq.

Rest of the world: I don't think so.

USA: Sept 11!

Rest of the world: well I suppose you are quite pathetic, go ahead.

Freedom has a taste the protected will never know.


If you don't understand that concept, there is no point debating with you anymore. 

Wardogg, please relax.  I'm guessing that 9/11 had a personal effect on you.  And I'm truly sorry about everyone who died, along with their friends and family members who have to deal with their losses.  And if that includes you, you have my deepest condolences, in all seriousness.

I would never make a joke about that in real life, and probably neither would Osama or anyone else in this thread.  You might find stuff on the Internet tasteless, but you don't have to post in it, because, as this is the Internet, your opinions may not be taken as seriously as they should be.

Another example: I find 4chan to be absolutely hilarious most of the time.  But occasionally they will cross the line and post something absolutely horrible, like terrorists brutally decapitating American soldiers in Iraq.  I know people who have served or are serving in Iraq, and I find this absolutely disgusting.  So, instead of telling strangers who don't care over the Internet that I think they're sick, I just ignore those pages.  I doubt the posters really find that kind of stuff funny in real life.

One more thing: There might have been some communication problems with this:

September 11th isn't important. Americans like to make it out like it is, fuck knows why... oh wait, I do know why: you like being the "victim".

USA: Poor, poor us americans. September 11.
Let's invade Afghanistan!

Rest of the world: gee, okay. But only because of Sept 11.

USA: That was fun, let's invade Iraq.

Rest of the world: I don't think so.

USA: Sept 11!

Rest of the world: well I suppose you are quite pathetic, go ahead.

I hesitate to point the finger of blame at America itself, but at least a kernel of this is true.  The country was united after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan.  But the Iraq War was manipulation at its worst.

The rationale for invading Iraq at the time was WMDs.  These did not exist.  So Bush and company changed their tune after the war by hinting that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, which also wasn't true.  During the entire 2004 presidential campaign, Bush's main point was that he could keep the country safe and Kerry couldn't, spreading the subliminal message that he was targeting the terrorists responsible for 9/11 by invading Iraq.

Hey I didn't get irate at the OP.  Go back and look at my first post.

But to let Muffz, who doesn't know a fucks thing about sacrifice, post what she did without me saying anything, isn't going to happen.

The Twat changed his last post but my statement still stands.

As for the ensuing wars.  Afghanistan was a just and right cause.  We all agree. 

Iraq on the other hand.  Despite the reason we first when in there, which I agree was a mistake due to improper intelligence, is going to be for the better in the long run.  That place now has water and electricity and schools and hospitals now where they were not there before.


Saddam, your past posts have changed my opinion about you.  I don't care what Tom Bishop says about you, you are O.K. in my book.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on September 12, 2008, 07:56:40 AM

No the worst thing that has ever happened in the world was your birth.  Although this is a close second.

haha, you really do think it's that terrible.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on September 12, 2008, 07:56:40 AM

I'm not a victim here.  But I will be God dammed if I'm going to let her down play its importance or call us as bad as the terrorists.

But you are as bad as the "baddies". For somebody who "isn't" the victim you sure do a good job of acting like one.

September 11th isn't important. Americans like to make it out like it is, fuck knows why... oh wait, I do know why: you like being the "victim".

USA: Poor, poor us americans. September 11.
Let's invade Afghanistan!

Rest of the world: gee, okay. But only because of Sept 11.

USA: That was fun, let's invade Iraq.

Rest of the world: I don't think so.

USA: Sept 11!

Rest of the world: well I suppose you are quite pathetic, go ahead.

So pathetic that the rest of the world couldn't have stopped us if they wanted to. They "let us" do stuff. wink wink.

One veto from one of the five permanent powers could have stopped the Iraq War from happening. Sigh...

The OP was funny.. Muffs is just an ignorant child.  I don't mean that in a bad way, but all children are ignorant until they learn better.  I'm not OK with terrorists just because they were "taught" to be that way. 

Iraq on the other hand.  Despite the reason we first when in there, which I agree was a mistake due to improper intelligence, is going to be for the better in the long run.  That place now has water and electricity and schools and hospitals now where they were not there before.

Personally, I believe that you can't look at the way things were in Iraq before we went in and say that the job didn't need to be done .  I'm just not sure that we should have been the ones to do it. 

Personally, I actually agree with Muffz. What's done is done, and when you look at the statistics, the invasion by the West hurt more innocent bystanders than 9/11 itself. Wardogg, chill the fuck out. Shit happens, people die. People are still dying in New Orleans, and not from Gustav. Katrina is gone, but still killing and nobody gives a flying fuck, nobody's trying to help because 9/11 happened. This happened seven years ago, and thinking about it and bitching on the Internet changes nothing. Also, that's one win OP.

I lol'd at them both.

Clinging onto the edifice of a decadent past is not healthy for progressions to occur.

Unfortunately, I am a fence sitter when it comes to the war in Iraq. I do believe, however, that the death of innocent people in the country who are persecuted for their beliefs was not tolerable. Some people disagree with that and say "Well, America should keep it's big fat nose out of another country's business." Ok, fair enough, they stand for neutrality. However, that begs the question: If we, possibly having the most powerful military in the world, don't step in and say 'What you're doing is wrong and immoral!', then who will?

Now, I don't feel that we should be the "World Police", but a little encouragement from us to get country's on the right path to tolerance, humanity, and human decency is necessary. If that means we have to kick someone's ass, then so be it. If we can do it the diplomatic way, then even better. In the case of Iraq, we needed to kick Saddam's ass () and then establish order to even be able to do it diplomatically.

As far as 9/11 goes, yeah, it happened 7 years ago. Relax. It's nice to show remembrance, and I think that once Freedom Tower is finished being built, it will no longer be a time to show remorse, but to celebrate the ultimate monument of remembrance. However, it's a sign of irony... I personally believe that the 9/11 events we're established by the US government. Many people are overly patriotic and refuse to accept that even as a possibility. Sound familiar? Sounds awfully similar to a religious zealot. But there is lot's of evidence. The problem is, no one will be able to be 100% sure unless the government itself were to be overtaken and then documents able to be revealed, provided they were not destroyed.

All in all, as I said, I am a fence sitter. There is no 100% for me. But I refuse to sit and get butthurt over it. I say: Laugh.

It was 7 years ago.

It was 7 years ago.

This happened eight years ago

I corrected myself, then laughed at the fact that it was you correcting me...

Lies! *looks shifty*

Doesn't matter if it happened yesterday, there are still going to be people traumatized by it for a long time.  It also doesn't matter that it happened in America, if it happened in your (whoever you may be) country you might be just as sensitive as some Americans are about it. 

There was an album put out by Leftover Crack called "Fuck World Trade".

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on September 12, 2008, 09:06:19 AM

Iraq on the other hand.  Despite the reason we first when in there, which I agree was a mistake due to improper intelligence, is going to be for the better in the long run.  That place now has water and electricity and schools and hospitals now where they were not there before.

Personally, I believe that you can't look at the way things were in Iraq before we went in and say that the job didn't need to be done .  I'm just not sure that we should have been the ones to do it. 

I have argued that before as well.  Saddam was such a bad person he should of been offed during the first gulf war.  Stupid politics. 

Doesn't matter if it happened yesterday, there are still going to be people traumatized by it for a long time.  It also doesn't matter that it happened in America, if it happened in your (whoever you may be) country you might be just as sensitive as some Americans are about it. 

The Blitz? It certainly didn't happen yesterday, and does crippled count as traumatized? If so, we've got that too, if not, sorry for being stronger people. Roughly the same amount of casualties across the whole country almost every night? People could be killed, wounded or made homeless if they were lucky? That was like the Iraq war, Hurricane Katrina and 9/11 on a daily basis, but do we have remembrance every day? No, we got on with our lives. The problem is, this hasn't ever happened before, the closest was Pearl Harbour, so I'd see why Americans would be shit-scared, but not all bitchy like Wardogg.

Personally, I actually agree with Muffz. What's done is done, and when you look at the statistics, the invasion by the West hurt more innocent bystanders than 9/11 itself. Wardogg, chill the fuck out. Shit happens, people die. People are still dying in New Orleans, and not from Gustav. Katrina is gone, but still killing and nobody gives a flying fuck, nobody's trying to help because 9/11 happened. This happened seven years ago, and thinking about it and bitching on the Internet changes nothing. Also, that's one win OP.

I agree. Shit happens. But whats even more annoying is that American paranoia over terrorism has ruined air travel for the rest of us, now we can't take liquids and stuff on planes, bah.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on September 12, 2008, 01:17:35 PM

Doesn't matter if it happened yesterday, there are still going to be people traumatized by it for a long time.  It also doesn't matter that it happened in America, if it happened in your (whoever you may be) country you might be just as sensitive as some Americans are about it. 

The Blitz? It certainly didn't happen yesterday, and does crippled count as traumatized? If so, we've got that too, if not, sorry for being stronger people. Roughly the same amount of casualties across the whole country almost every night? People could be killed, wounded or made homeless if they were lucky? That was like the Iraq war, Hurricane Katrina and 9/11 on a daily basis, but do we have remembrance every day? No, we got on with our lives. The problem is, this hasn't ever happened before, the closest was Pearl Harbour, so I'd see why Americans would be shit-scared, but not all bitchy like Wardogg.

So.. there's no one in your country still sensitive about it? Obviously there are some people who will be a little more upset than others.  There are some who have actually lost friends and family, so 7 yrs probably doesn't seem that long ago to them.  And.. we don't have remembrances everyday for 9/11.. it was yesterday, so there were some memorial services. There will most likely be memorial services every Sept 11th for years to come, and there's not much any of us can do about it.  Please don't mistake the behavior of some politicians and the media for the behavior of all Americans.  Most of us have moved on, most of us didn't pay any attention to the day as anything special.  I don't begrudge those who are still in mourning for their friends and family their one day. 

I don't know how General Douchebag can think that seven years after the Blitz it wasn't still lingering in most Englanders' minds.  He's trying to compare current feeling in England of something that happened over 60 years ago to current feeling in America of something that happened 7 years ago.  There's a pretty big difference there. 

All jokes aside, as a pacifist I feel that the 9/11 attacks, the invasion of Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq were all wrong. Just because extremist Afghans killed innocent Americans doesn't give extremist Americans the right to kill innocent Afghans.

If you feel that the 9/11 attacks were wrong, then why did you do them?

How come no one ever remembers July whatever it was, with the bombs in London? Oh right I know, thats because America doesn't give a toss about anywhere else.

I remember remember the 5th of November.

How come no one ever remembers July whatever it was, with the bombs in London? Oh right I know, thats because America doesn't give a toss about anywhere else.

Because a lot less people died. The world trade center had the most civilian deaths in america from any attack. So it seems to have stuck.

Just because extremist Afghans killed innocent Americans doesn't give extremist Americans the right to kill innocent Afghans.

The invasion of Afghanistan happened because Afghanistan was controlled by a group of extremists with close ties to Osama who refused to stop giving him shelter. Average life for Afgan citizens is much, much better now then it was under the Taliban.

How come no one ever remembers July whatever it was, with the bombs in London? Oh right I know, thats because America doesn't give a toss about anywhere else.

Americans may not remember the specific date (neither did you), but we remember the bombings in London.  About 50 people died, and several hundred were injured.  At the time, it freaked me out a bit... I also remember the bombings in Madrid around the same time, or maybe the year before.  It's just that our media makes a bigger deal of these memorial services than yours probably does.  

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