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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #180 on: September 15, 2008, 02:14:15 PM »
"most are more along the lines of left wing"

your saying that most of the people who support Bush think the WTC is a US Conspiracy?

I tried searching with google and couldnt find any.

anyway nobody has yet explained why the existing support provided no resistance at all to the building. the building fell in 15 seconds, for an object in a vacuum to fall the same distance it would take 10 seconds. The 5 seconds can be accounted for by airresistance, airpressure, and solid resistance, however it cannot be accounted for by strong building archetectural foundations)
Bush is right wing..... Are you slow?

I said bush is right wing at first. The second post was a mistake.

anyway will someone post a video proving that it isn't.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #181 on: September 15, 2008, 03:38:52 PM »
Good God.....I cant believe this is actually still being debated.

Wardogg, you have been 100% right on with all your posts, even the one in response to Muffz original post. Muffz is basically talking about something she knows nothing about....she was 7 when 9/11 happened and is still too young and ignorant to provide any meaningful input.

Nightmare, youre a fool. Pissed off Muslims were behind 9/11. Two planes full of fuel hit the WTC causing severe fires and extraordinary heat which caused the buildings to collapse. The secondary "explosions" you refer to was pressure caused by the floors above pancaking as the building collapsed.

The Pentagon was also hit by a large plane. Missles leave a trail behind them (similar to the ones you see high-flying jets cause) and people probably would have noticed that. There are, however, many witnesses to a low flying jet headed towards the Pentagon though.

I really dont see how anyone can joke about 9/11 but, as Saddam said earlier, I guess nothing is sacred on the internet.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #182 on: September 15, 2008, 03:40:36 PM »
If we couldn't laugh about tragedy from time to time then we'd all go insane with grief.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #183 on: September 15, 2008, 03:41:00 PM »
Good God.....I cant believe this is actually still being debated.

Wardogg, you have been 100% right on with all your posts, even the one in response to Muffz original post. Muffz is basically talking about something she knows nothing about....she was 7 when 9/11 happened and is still too young and ignorant to provide any meaningful input.

Nightmare, youre a fool. Pissed off Muslims were behind 9/11. Two planes full of fuel hit the WTC causing severe fires and extraordinary heat which caused the buildings to collapse. The secondary "explosions" you refer to was pressure caused by the floors above pancaking as the building collapsed.

The Pentagon was also hit by a large plane. Missles leave a trail behind them (similar to the ones you see high-flying jets cause) and people probably would have noticed that. There are, however, many witnesses to a low flying jet headed towards the Pentagon though.

I really dont see how anyone can joke about 9/11 but, as Saddam said earlier, I guess nothing is sacred on the internet.



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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #184 on: September 15, 2008, 03:41:24 PM »
I really dont see how anyone can joke about 9/11 but, as Saddam said earlier, I guess nothing is sacred on the internet.

Precisely.

Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #185 on: September 15, 2008, 05:10:02 PM »
I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the conspiracy. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.
I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the reptilian overlords. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #186 on: September 15, 2008, 06:45:49 PM »
I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the conspiracy. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.
I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the reptilian overlords. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.

i couldn't help but lol  ;)
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #187 on: September 15, 2008, 07:50:14 PM »
To be honest, I blame myself for turning this into a valid discussion.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #188 on: September 15, 2008, 08:53:22 PM »
Well the easiest one to debunk is the fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.  That is a true statement but steel doesn't have to melt to lose its strength.  I don't remember the real number but the steel in the WTC lost atleast 50 percent of its supporting strength.  
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #189 on: September 15, 2008, 09:20:43 PM »
I would hope that he would not have to cite a source that a metals resistance to deformation is reduced when heated.   See blacksmithing.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #190 on: September 15, 2008, 09:38:20 PM »
Well the easiest one to debunk is the fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.  That is a true statement but steel doesn't have to melt to lose its strength.  I don't remember the real number but the steel in the WTC lost atleast 50 percent of its supporting strength. 
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Physics 101

Surely the situation was complex enough that just saying "Physics 101" isn't a good enough response.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #191 on: September 15, 2008, 09:53:49 PM »
Surely the situation was complex enough that just saying "Physics 101" isn't a good enough response.

I think the real problem here is that Sokarul has never even taken Physics 101.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #192 on: September 15, 2008, 10:03:05 PM »
In social studies in the fifth grade, when they tell you black smiths learned to heat up iron in order to shape it into farming implements, and weapons.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #193 on: September 16, 2008, 04:52:20 AM »
Also popular mechanics busting it long ago. 

The Popular Mechanics debunk highlighted misconstrued theories. They also made a bunch of the theories up and debunked those. If they had perhaps actually attempted to debunk actual ideas, then it'd be a different story.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #194 on: September 16, 2008, 05:18:58 AM »
-Most Afghans don't want foreign troops to withdraw from the country, and are glad the Taliban is no longer in power, so the majority agree with the invasion.

Based on what? Afghans are notoriously resistant to foreign occupation. Spetsnaz veterans will tell you. To say that the majority of them agree with the US invasion of their land disregards their tribal heritage. They believe in blood retribution and do not take shot-up weddings and bombed villages lightly. Even though there is considerable internecine strife, when faced with a common enemy they tend to unite. And a fierce opponent he is when 70 virgins await him in heaven.

This is very wrong.

Prior to 9/11 there was an uprising in Afghanistan. When the Taliban had taken control of about 90% of the country a group led by Ahmad Massoud (The Northern Alliance) formed in opposition. Massoud, and his followers, fought against the real oppressors (Taliban) and gathered hundreds of new followers every day. Massoud was assassinated by Al-Queda on 9/9/01 and is now viewed as a national hero.

Therefore, when the American arrived to overthrow the Taliban tens of thousands of Afghans, including Massouds army, joined to fight and took to the streets in joy. The Taliban was a brutal regime and the vast Afghan population were unhappy under their control. When the Americans arrived the Afghan people finally knew that the Talibans days were numbered.

Your post does not exclude mine. What makes you think they will happily trade one oppressive regime for another?
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #195 on: September 16, 2008, 05:44:14 AM »
7. The building fell exactly how it should if floors were dropping straight down upon each other adding its weight to the current floor weight and so on and so on until complete collapse.

The pancake theory would have created lots of friction as each floor fell onto the next. The fact that both towers fell in under 10 seconds indicates a total lack of structural resistance. No airplane hit building 7 yet it went down at freefall speed. How can random debris causing random fires cause such a symmetrical collapse?
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #196 on: September 16, 2008, 07:48:38 AM »
-Most Afghans don't want foreign troops to withdraw from the country, and are glad the Taliban is no longer in power, so the majority agree with the invasion.

Based on what? Afghans are notoriously resistant to foreign occupation. Spetsnaz veterans will tell you. To say that the majority of them agree with the US invasion of their land disregards their tribal heritage. They believe in blood retribution and do not take shot-up weddings and bombed villages lightly. Even though there is considerable internecine strife, when faced with a common enemy they tend to unite. And a fierce opponent he is when 70 virgins await him in heaven.

This is very wrong.

Prior to 9/11 there was an uprising in Afghanistan. When the Taliban had taken control of about 90% of the country a group led by Ahmad Massoud (The Northern Alliance) formed in opposition. Massoud, and his followers, fought against the real oppressors (Taliban) and gathered hundreds of new followers every day. Massoud was assassinated by Al-Queda on 9/9/01 and is now viewed as a national hero.

Therefore, when the American arrived to overthrow the Taliban tens of thousands of Afghans, including Massouds army, joined to fight and took to the streets in joy. The Taliban was a brutal regime and the vast Afghan population were unhappy under their control. When the Americans arrived the Afghan people finally knew that the Talibans days were numbered.

Your post does not exclude mine. What makes you think they will happily trade one oppressive regime for another?

Because were never built a regime there. Hamid Karzi is the president of Afghanistan.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #197 on: September 16, 2008, 08:55:53 AM »
To be honest, I blame myself for turning this into a valid discussion.

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Thanks!  I think this is the first time a serious member has sig'd me.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #198 on: September 16, 2008, 09:49:40 AM »
-Most Afghans don't want foreign troops to withdraw from the country, and are glad the Taliban is no longer in power, so the majority agree with the invasion.

Based on what? Afghans are notoriously resistant to foreign occupation. Spetsnaz veterans will tell you. To say that the majority of them agree with the US invasion of their land disregards their tribal heritage. They believe in blood retribution and do not take shot-up weddings and bombed villages lightly. Even though there is considerable internecine strife, when faced with a common enemy they tend to unite. And a fierce opponent he is when 70 virgins await him in heaven.

This is very wrong.

Prior to 9/11 there was an uprising in Afghanistan. When the Taliban had taken control of about 90% of the country a group led by Ahmad Massoud (The Northern Alliance) formed in opposition. Massoud, and his followers, fought against the real oppressors (Taliban) and gathered hundreds of new followers every day. Massoud was assassinated by Al-Queda on 9/9/01 and is now viewed as a national hero.

Therefore, when the American arrived to overthrow the Taliban tens of thousands of Afghans, including Massouds army, joined to fight and took to the streets in joy. The Taliban was a brutal regime and the vast Afghan population were unhappy under their control. When the Americans arrived the Afghan people finally knew that the Talibans days were numbered.

Your post does not exclude mine. What makes you think they will happily trade one oppressive regime for another?

Because were never built a regime there. Hamid Karzi is the president of Afghanistan.

Karzai is a puppet. His credentials make him very useful.

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« Reply #199 on: September 16, 2008, 10:36:30 AM »
That hardly constitutes as building an "oppressive regime."
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #200 on: September 16, 2008, 05:00:36 PM »
Surely the situation was complex enough that just saying "Physics 101" isn't a good enough response.

I think the real problem here is that Sokarul has never even taken Physics 101.
You guys are retarded.  See post below. 

I would hope that he would not have to cite a source that a metals resistance to deformation is reduced when heated.   See blacksmithing.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #201 on: September 17, 2008, 06:06:38 AM »
Surely the situation was complex enough that just saying "Physics 101" isn't a good enough response.

I think the real problem here is that Sokarul has never even taken Physics 101.
You guys are retarded.  See post below. 

I would hope that he would not have to cite a source that a metals resistance to deformation is reduced when heated.   See blacksmithing.

How does that prove Robbj retarded and disprove that you have never taken Physics 101? GTFO.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #202 on: September 17, 2008, 07:02:40 AM »
Surely the situation was complex enough that just saying "Physics 101" isn't a good enough response.

I think the real problem here is that Sokarul has never even taken Physics 101.
You guys are retarded.  See post below. 

I would hope that he would not have to cite a source that a metals resistance to deformation is reduced when heated.   See blacksmithing.

How does that prove Robbj retarded and disprove that you have never taken Physics 101? GTFO.
He was using Robbj to prove he didn't need a source.

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #203 on: September 17, 2008, 07:39:16 AM »
He was using Robbj to prove he didn't need a source.

He still hasn't taken Physics 101.
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #204 on: September 17, 2008, 07:40:12 AM »
He was using Robbj to prove he didn't need a source.

He still hasn't taken Physics 101.
So funny and so original. Let's pick on sokarul. He has something new to make fun of every 5 seconds. If you can't find something new fucking give up.

I know derailing threads is fun, but can you keep it to the non serious forums plz?

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #205 on: September 17, 2008, 07:43:24 AM »
He was using Robbj to prove he didn't need a source.

He still hasn't taken Physics 101.
Whatever you say. 


Surely the situation was complex enough that just saying "Physics 101" isn't a good enough response.

I think the real problem here is that Sokarul has never even taken Physics 101.
You guys are retarded.  See post below. 

I would hope that he would not have to cite a source that a metals resistance to deformation is reduced when heated.   See blacksmithing.

How does that prove Robbj retarded and disprove that you have never taken Physics 101? GTFO.
He was using Robbj to prove he didn't need a source.

Yes, because its common knowledge metal loses strength when hot. 
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #206 on: September 17, 2008, 07:51:29 AM »
Yes, because its common knowledge metal looses strength when hot. 

So what do you do to tighten its strength?
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #207 on: September 17, 2008, 08:04:51 AM »
Yes, because its common knowledge metal looses strength when hot. 

So what do you do to tighten its strength?

You create better alloys. 
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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #208 on: September 17, 2008, 08:07:02 AM »
Yes, because its common knowledge metal looses strength when hot. 

So what do you do to tighten its strength?

You create better alloys. 

Brilliant. ::)

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Re: Happy 9/11
« Reply #209 on: September 17, 2008, 08:10:46 AM »
Yes, because its common knowledge metal looses strength when hot. 

So what do you do to tighten its strength?

You create better alloys. 

Brilliant. ::)
That's is actually exactly what you do.  If the WTC's support beams had around 10 percent of another metal(I can't remember which one) it would have been able to keep enough strength, at the same temperature, to keep the towers up.   
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