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Re: Flying
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2008, 08:42:26 PM »
You got me good.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2008, 03:31:31 AM »
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Re: Flying
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2008, 03:35:13 AM »
What? You couldn't see my drawing?
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Re: Flying
« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2008, 03:38:23 AM »
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Re: Flying
« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2008, 08:40:29 AM »


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r36/Persistenxe/Flat_earth111.jpg

Underside of that red dot. Is this still too hard for you?
« Last Edit: September 21, 2008, 10:12:28 AM by E.Jack »
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Re: Flying
« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2008, 12:08:32 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:06:38 PM
It's hard for me if you don't tell me.

But now I'm confused. In the real world, there is a single southerly point where the magnetic field causes a compass to spin. (Because all directions are "north". The point has been visited on many occasions, and if you want to visit it yourself you can. Just apply here

I know where this point is on a globe, but where is it on the flat earth?

I don't believe there is any single such point.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2008, 12:08:50 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:06:38 PM
It's hard for me if you don't tell me.

But now I'm confused. In the real world, there is a single southerly point where the magnetic field causes a compass to spin. (Because all directions are "north". The point has been visited on many occasions, and if you want to visit it yourself you can. Just apply here

I know where this point is on a globe, but where is it on the flat earth?

The Earth's magnetic north pole is not located at the same point as the South Geographic Pole.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2008, 12:16:10 PM »
i saw a film once about these guys and they were travelling around the world.(or across it).


One of them was British, one was from Kansas and the other was German. Anyway they all boarded a plane from France, they met there first to get to know each other, etc. France was a good starting spot as the camera men, etc were from there.

They flew from there to southern Italy, and took in Gondela trip before having lunch and checking into their hotel so as could get rid of their bags to explore the city more.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2008, 12:19:24 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:17:25 PM
Tell me where it is not where it isn't.

I'm meant in RET. You are talking about two different points as though they are the same point. When you provide clarification, so will I.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2008, 12:23:18 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:22:13 PM
No I'm not. I'm talking about the magnetic south pole. Show me where that is.

The Arctic Ocean, I believe.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2008, 12:39:17 PM »
Uh... the geographic north pole is also in the Arctic Ocean.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2008, 12:47:23 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:44:09 PM
So both the magnetic poles are in the Arctic Ocean? What luck!

No, only the magnetic south pole. The geographic north pole is not a magnetic pole.

Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:44:09 PM
But what's the name for the spot in the (ahem) southern hemisphere where no compass reference point can be found.

Hint, somewhere near here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Magnetic_Pole

It's not even in within the ice wall, so plenty of people have been there...

That would be the South Magnetic Pole, which is also a magnetic north pole. It is defined simply as the point on the Earth's surface where the magnetic field lines point directly up, so I am inclined to believe that there is more than one of them in the FE model, or that instead of a point it is a continuous ring around the edge.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #72 on: September 21, 2008, 12:49:41 PM »
And what patrols the ring?
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Re: Flying
« Reply #73 on: September 21, 2008, 12:50:42 PM »
Quote from: Dr. Lia Roidi Moore on September 21, 2008, 12:49:41 PM
And what patrols the ring?

It probably isn't a ring. It doesn't really agree with observations for it to be one. But it is certainly a possibility.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2008, 06:07:11 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
There's a single point on the earths surface called the magnetic north pole.
There is a single point on the earths surface called the magnetic south pole.
The magnetic north pole is somewhere in the arctic ocean.
To be a little more precise, it's not too far from 82.7° N 114.4° W
The magnetic south pole is somewhere in the antarctic ocean
To be a little more precise, it's not too far from 63.5° S 138.0° E

Would you agree?

Switch those co-ordinates around, and yes, I would, in RET. In FET, I would only agree that there is a single magnetic south pole. There may be multiple magnetic north poles.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #75 on: September 21, 2008, 10:28:42 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:37:29 PM
You've just contradicted E.Jack:

Quote from: E.Jack on September 21, 2008, 08:40:29 AM

There is no contradiction. I thought you've read the FAQ, but it looked like you've not. The magnetic south pole is located at the geographic north pole, while the magnetic north pole is located underside of that.

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Thus, the magnetic south pole is near the geographic north pole
So you admit that you were just being dumb?

Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
Wow. The magnetic south pole is in the north?
Yeah, why?
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Re: Flying
« Reply #76 on: September 21, 2008, 10:36:25 PM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 21, 2008, 12:44:09 PM
So both the magnetic poles are in the Arctic Ocean? What luck!
Look up the word "underside".
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Re: Flying
« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2008, 05:14:59 AM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 22, 2008, 05:11:26 AM
But Steve, there is no FE and RE only what is observable. From those observations we make assumptions on the shape of the earth. The coordinates I gave you are observed and recorded. They fit with the assumption of a Round Earth, but not that of a Flat Earth.

They do? So the north pole of a magnet points south? ???
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Re: Flying
« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2008, 12:30:21 PM »
Quote from: Osama  bin Laden on September 20, 2008, 07:43:09 PM
... When I look out of my window, the Earth appears flat. Therefore, it is flat, and it is the centre of the Round Earth that doesn't exist.

Sorry to come back to this - how would the view from your window differ if the earth was round and had a circumference of almost 25,000 miles (as proposed by the RE model)? It would look as it looks now surely?

(... sorry if I seem to be picking on you today - you just happen to be the one who provoked a couple of questions!  ;) )
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Re: Flying
« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2008, 12:34:48 PM »
Quote from: roysloco on September 22, 2008, 12:30:21 PM
Sorry to come back to this - how would the view from your window differ if the earth was round and had a circumference of almost 25,000 miles (as proposed by the RE model)? It would look as it looks now surely?

(... sorry if I seem to be picking on you today - you just happen to be the one who provoked a couple of questions!  ;) )

It wouldn't, but that's like saying that the Andromeda galaxy is made of antimatter because our view of it wouldn't differ in such a case provided it was not in contact with matter. We would need additional evidence to consider it a reasonable possibility.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #80 on: September 28, 2008, 09:22:30 AM »
After reading these forums for a few hours I can safely say that video evidence will not disprove FET, because all pictures and/or videos can be faked. Even if a respected member of the forum was to post video footage of the earth from space which they took themselves it would be discounted as the government using their name to release more fake images.

I would like to see an example of a situation that would prove to a FE theorist that the earth is round. (Please don't say "you can't! it's flat!)

For instance, here is what would prove the earth is flat:

Legitimate news agency films the ice wall. Hell, even a picture would do. CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, NYTimes, Boston Globe, AP, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, ect.

And now, a picture of a mountain won't do. I'd like to see the ocean hitting a wall of ice that's covering the horizon from one of these news agencies.
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Re: Flying
« Reply #81 on: September 28, 2008, 09:36:59 AM »
Quote from: Chrls on September 28, 2008, 09:22:30 AM
After reading these forums for a few hours I can safely say that video evidence will not disprove FET, because all pictures and/or videos can be faked. Even if a respected member of the forum was to post video footage of the earth from space which they took themselves it would be discounted as the government using their name to release more fake images.

I would like to see an example of a situation that would prove to a FE theorist that the earth is round. (Please don't say "you can't! it's flat!)

For instance, here is what would prove the earth is flat:

Legitimate news agency films the ice wall. Hell, even a picture would do. CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, NYTimes, Boston Globe, AP, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, ect.

And now, a picture of a mountain won't do. I'd like to see the ocean hitting a wall of ice that's covering the horizon from one of these news agencies.


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Re: Flying
« Reply #82 on: September 29, 2008, 09:41:02 AM »
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Re: Flying
« Reply #83 on: September 29, 2008, 11:42:34 PM »
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FE!!!
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Re: Flying
« Reply #84 on: September 29, 2008, 11:59:27 PM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on September 29, 2008, 11:42:34 PM
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FE!!!

Indeed. That frigate is obviously guarding the ice wall. The Earth is flat!
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Re: Flying
« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2008, 05:21:27 AM »
Quote from: MadDogX on September 29, 2008, 11:59:27 PM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on September 29, 2008, 11:42:34 PM
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FE!!!

Indeed. That frigate is obviously guarding the ice wall. The Earth is flat!

Maybe that frigate is trying to keep the killer penguins in.  Did you conspiracy types ever think of that?  Hmm...
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Re: Flying
« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2008, 09:50:46 AM »
Quote from: goldstein on September 30, 2008, 09:16:42 AM
Penguins can't swim. They commit mass suicide like lemmings.

That's right, penguins can't swim.  They fly underwater (ever heard of water wings?).
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Re: Flying
« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2008, 10:43:51 AM »
im curious.... there are no guards in any of your pictures. are they invisible??? and if these ships have reached the ice wall, why didn't the guards shoot them as you propose they would do? i don't wanna bring up anything about the government allowing these pictures because as you all know the government is not involved in the conspiracy.

btw... does NASA employ super-secret-invisible-ultra soldiers?
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Re: Flying
« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2008, 01:16:15 AM »
Quote from: Funk Master 420 on September 30, 2008, 10:43:51 AM
im curious.... there are no guards in any of your pictures. are they invisible??? and if these ships have reached the ice wall, why didn't the guards shoot them as you propose they would do? i don't wanna bring up anything about the government allowing these pictures because as you all know the government is not involved in the conspiracy.

btw... does NASA employ super-secret-invisible-ultra soldiers?

I don't think the ice wall is actively guarded really. So I doubt there are super-secret-invisible-ultra soldiers in the picture, but if you find one let me know.
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