The Centrifugal Force

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The Centrifugal Force
« on: September 04, 2008, 08:28:33 PM »
Hello, I'm new here and have a quick question that didnt turn up in a thread search.

Please explain how centrifugal force comes into play on the FE rotating disc. Centrifugal force sugests that objects should move to the edges of the disc, or the ice wall in this case. I am under the impression that the FE is rotating, as explained earlier to show the corriolis effect.

Basically, whats to stop us from sliding off into the ice or even into space?
Any input is appeciated.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 08:29:00 PM »
FE is not rotating.

Its in the FAQ.


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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 08:56:14 PM »
how then do you explain the corriolis effect.... bah! ill go find it...

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 09:26:35 PM »
The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 10:47:56 PM »
in RET, the earth is spinning. are people at the equator getting thrown off?
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008, 11:12:13 PM »
So some magical thing that no one knows about is making storms, low pressure systems, high pressure systems, smaller thunderstorms… all spin one direction in the northern hemisphere and another on the southern?

Sounds like a load of shit.

The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.

Fletch quit using theory’s to prove facts. You can't use an imaginary force or whatever you want to call it to explain everything. Facts please, not magic.

No you would not get thrown off the equator of the earth due to its spin. You do weigh a fraction less at the equator because of the spin (a proven fact). Wonder what FEs explanation is for that.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 11:19:09 PM »
i was also under the impression that a force called gravity holds the RE objects down... now without gravity in the FE... you get my drift.

and it seems that several FA-ers are kinda testy when it comes to new people asking questions... someone recently posted a rhetorical question in the form of an answer in a way that sounded a bit angry... all i masking is for some basic info, please reply with simple answers.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 11:30:53 PM »
i was also under the impression that a force called gravity holds the RE objects down... now without gravity in the FE... you get my drift.

No I don't, unless your drift is that you are a complete moron without the faintest understanding of basic physics.
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 11:33:29 PM »
there again with the testyness....
look if insults are the FA-er's primary tool for explanation ill leave the forums now...

anyways my drift is irrelevant now due to my misplaced original post. i have a new question to ask... ill start a new thread...

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 11:40:11 PM »
Fletch quit using theory’s to prove facts. You can't use an imaginary force or whatever you want to call it to explain everything. Facts please, not magic.
The RE theory seems to rely on Gravity to explain an awful lot of things. And you can't explain how that works. Why can you use an imaginary force to explain things, but I can not? Also, I'm not using theory's to prove facts. That sentence doesn't actually make sense, but what I was doing, was answering a question.
how then do you explain the corriolis effect.... bah! ill go find it...
The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.
and it seems that several FA-ers are kinda testy when it comes to new people asking questions... someone recently posted a rhetorical question in the form of an answer in a way that sounded a bit angry... all i masking is for some basic info, please reply with simple answers.
I have replied with a simple answer. The testiness of some of this forums members is a result of 2 things. Answering the same questions over and over again to new members who can't search the forum AND people coming in and posting abusive comments.
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 11:53:15 PM »
Fletch quit using theory’s to prove facts. You can't use an imaginary force or whatever you want to call it to explain everything. Facts please, not magic.
The RE theory seems to rely on Gravity to explain an awful lot of things. And you can't explain how that works. Why can you use an imaginary force to explain things, but I can not? Also, I'm not using theory's to prove facts. That sentence doesn't actually make sense, but what I was doing, was answering a question.
how then do you explain the corriolis effect.... bah! ill go find it...
The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.
and it seems that several FA-ers are kinda testy when it comes to new people asking questions... someone recently posted a rhetorical question in the form of an answer in a way that sounded a bit angry... all i masking is for some basic info, please reply with simple answers.
I have replied with a simple answer. The testiness of some of this forums members is a result of 2 things. Answering the same questions over and over again to new members who can't search the forum AND people coming in and posting abusive comments.

Ya, but gravity has been proven; you can call it upward acceleration. Neither camp has an answer for it, so we are both in the same boat when it comes to gravity. I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

But then you keep going with your theoretical magic that answers everything… that you can’t answer.
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 01:33:06 AM »
We have an answer for it! We answered it repeatedly! Stop asking the same question over and over after it has been answered, or gtfo and play with all your little friends of your own mental capacity over at 4chan.
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 02:17:37 AM »
Ya, but gravity has been proven; you can call it upward acceleration. Neither camp has an answer for it, so we are both in the same boat when it comes to gravity. I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

But then you keep going with your theoretical magic that answers everything… that you can’t answer.

Gravity has been proven? But you don't have an answer for it? What?

Again, your theoretical magic that answers everything is gravity. Can you honestly not see the contradiction in believing in gravity because you can't actually answer what keeps us on the surface of the round earth, what keeps the planets circling the sun, etc, etc and at the same time ridiculing FET for coming up with different explanations?
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 02:18:13 AM »
Ya, but gravity has been proven;
No.

you can call it upward acceleration.
Yes.

I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.
Except even in RET, gravity has nothing to do with their orbits.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 05:27:19 AM »
If I get it right, UA is spinning under the disc... and it affects only for producing the Corriolis effect? Why it doesn't afect water? sand? or even people? Is it a consciuos energy that chooses what afect to? Or there are some physics in it?
And this is my own production: The UA must be divided in two, each spinning in opposite directions, musn't it? You know, for the spinning effect in each hemisphere.
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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2008, 05:41:27 AM »
Ya, but gravity has been proven; you can call it upward acceleration. Neither camp has an answer for it, so we are both in the same boat when it comes to gravity. I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

But then you keep going with your theoretical magic that answers everything… that you can’t answer.

Gravity has been proven? But you don't have an answer for it? What?

Again, your theoretical magic that answers everything is gravity. Can you honestly not see the contradiction in believing in gravity because you can't actually answer what keeps us on the surface of the round earth, what keeps the planets circling the sun, etc, etc and at the same time ridiculing FET for coming up with different explanations?

Sure.. but the whole idea of gravity supports everything you throw at it:

eclipses
moon orbits
planet orbits
sun location
comets
stars
our moon
tides


Your UA doesn't, you have to keep adding things to it, which end up not supporting other items.


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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2008, 07:08:26 AM »
Except even in RET, gravity has nothing to do with their orbits.

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2008, 08:16:20 AM »
Please explain how.  I'm wondering what it is that's making them travel in a curved path if its not a gravitational effect.

Or is this another gravity/gravitation semantics thing?

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2008, 08:32:48 AM »
Please explain how.  I'm wondering what it is that's making them travel in a curved path if its not a gravitational effect.
Curvature of space-time. The inertially moving planets accelerate along all possible curved lines. This accurately explains the perihelion and aphelion shifts of planets that Newton's theory ignored.

Or is this another gravity/gravitation semantics thing?
Sort of, but that's the point.

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2008, 09:29:26 AM »
Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple. ;)
The Earth is Round.

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2008, 10:53:28 AM »
Please explain how.  I'm wondering what it is that's making them travel in a curved path if its not a gravitational effect.
Curvature of space-time. The inertially moving planets accelerate along all possible curved lines. This accurately explains the perihelion and aphelion shifts of planets that Newton's theory ignored.

Or is this another gravity/gravitation semantics thing?
Sort of, but that's the point.

What causes the curvature of space-time?  Last I knew it was the presence of mass.  The greater the mass, the greater the curvature surrounding that mass.  This curvature is also described as a gravitational field.  Gravity in layman's terms unless you want to get all semantical. 

If your friend has boogers running down his face and he asks you for a kleenex and all you have are Puffs brand facial tissues, what do you do?  Do you hand him a tissue or do you tell him "Sorry, I don't have any kleenex." when he can see the box right there.

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2008, 03:50:12 PM »
Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple. ;)
You would fall over because your overall force (centripetal vs inertia) would act outside of your point of contact with the ground- your feet. Similar to standing in a bus as it goes around a corner, you need to lean into the turn or you fall over.
In fact, the spherical shape of the Earth allows perpendicular standing as essentially you are falling over, but gravity keeps you perpendicular with the core of the Earth, when with a flat earth you would slide sideways, or as above, fall over.

Also, you have terrible attitudes, some of you (Pvt Douchebag for instance), and it doesn't give a good impression to newcomers to the site. Would I want to change my beliefs so radically and join a new community of arsewipes at the same time? No. So get a fucking grip, some of you.

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2008, 04:04:33 PM »
Come on, you can't keep saying "look at the FAQ!" There's little or no science there.

Example: sunsets are created by an optical illusion. The sun just gets smaller as it gets further away. No, that's not what happens. It doesn't get smaller, it gradually disappers below the horizon.


Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2008, 05:40:35 PM »
Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple. ;)
You would fall over because your overall force (centripetal vs inertia) would act outside of your point of contact with the ground- your feet. Similar to standing in a bus as it goes around a corner, you need to lean into the turn or you fall over.
In fact, the spherical shape of the Earth allows perpendicular standing as essentially you are falling over, but gravity keeps you perpendicular with the core of the Earth, when with a flat earth you would slide sideways, or as above, fall over.
Why would you slide sideways or fall over on a Flat Earth?
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If Eminem had actually died, I would feel the force realign.
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Of course it doesn't make sense, it's Tom Bishop's answer.

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2008, 05:50:08 PM »
Sure.. but the whole idea of gravity supports everything you throw at it:

eclipses
moon orbits
planet orbits
sun location
comets
stars
our moon
tides

Your UA doesn't, you have to keep adding things to it, which end up not supporting other items.
Actually no, it doesn't. That's the point. But you're happy enough to look over those inconsistencies. Again, you aren't trying to find out why they don't work in RE, you're happy enough to accept there are things going on that you don't understand or can't comprehend.
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If Eminem had actually died, I would feel the force realign.
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Of course it doesn't make sense, it's Tom Bishop's answer.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2008, 06:55:58 PM »
What causes the curvature of space-time? 
Last I heard, it was magic.


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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2008, 09:28:46 PM »
in RET, the earth is spinning. are people at the equator getting thrown off?

No because in RET there's such a thing called gravity numb nuts. Upward acceleration wouldn't prevent everything from going to the edge.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2008, 11:53:07 PM »
What causes the curvature of space-time?  Last I knew it was the presence of mass.  The greater the mass, the greater the curvature surrounding that mass.  This curvature is also described as a gravitational field.  Gravity in layman's terms unless you want to get all semantical. 
If you're asking what causes the curvature, I'm assuming you're asking for the source. Mass isn't the only source.

If your friend has boogers running down his face and he asks you for a kleenex and all you have are Puffs brand facial tissues, what do you do?  Do you hand him a tissue or do you tell him "Sorry, I don't have any kleenex." when he can see the box right there.
Sorry, but there is a huge difference between Newtonian gravity and GR.

Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2008, 02:22:32 AM »
Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple. ;)
You would fall over because your overall force (centripetal vs inertia) would act outside of your point of contact with the ground- your feet. Similar to standing in a bus as it goes around a corner, you need to lean into the turn or you fall over.
In fact, the spherical shape of the Earth allows perpendicular standing as essentially you are falling over, but gravity keeps you perpendicular with the core of the Earth, when with a flat earth you would slide sideways, or as above, fall over.
Why would you slide sideways or fall over on a Flat Earth?
It is explained in the first fucking sentence of my post. The FES uses so many pseudoscientific phrases I'd have thought you'd understand real science at least a bit.
Hell, I'm not reposting why when it IS IN THE VERY SAME POST THAT YOU QUOTED.

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Re: The Centrifugal Force
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2008, 02:26:08 AM »
It is explained in the first fucking sentence of my post. The FES uses so many pseudoscientific phrases I'd have thought you'd understand real science at least a bit.
Hell, I'm not reposting why when it IS IN THE VERY SAME POST THAT YOU QUOTED.

Where? ???
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