The Centrifugal Force

The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.

i was also under the impression that a force called gravity holds the RE objects down... now without gravity in the FE... you get my drift.

Fletch quit using theory’s to prove facts. You can't use an imaginary force or whatever you want to call it to explain everything. Facts please, not magic.

how then do you explain the corriolis effect.... bah! ill go find it...

The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.

and it seems that several FA-ers are kinda testy when it comes to new people asking questions... someone recently posted a rhetorical question in the form of an answer in a way that sounded a bit angry... all i masking is for some basic info, please reply with simple answers.

Quote from: spacemanjones on September 04, 2008, 11:12:13 PM

Fletch quit using theory’s to prove facts. You can't use an imaginary force or whatever you want to call it to explain everything. Facts please, not magic.

The RE theory seems to rely on Gravity to explain an awful lot of things. And you can't explain how that works. Why can you use an imaginary force to explain things, but I can not? Also, I'm not using theory's to prove facts. That sentence doesn't actually make sense, but what I was doing, was answering a question.

Quote from: sphere_man on September 04, 2008, 08:56:14 PM

how then do you explain the corriolis effect.... bah! ill go find it...

Quote from: Fletch on September 04, 2008, 09:26:35 PM

The UA is rotating underneath the earth, seems to be the explanation for that.

Quote from: sphere_man on September 04, 2008, 11:19:09 PM

and it seems that several FA-ers are kinda testy when it comes to new people asking questions... someone recently posted a rhetorical question in the form of an answer in a way that sounded a bit angry... all i masking is for some basic info, please reply with simple answers.

I have replied with a simple answer. The testiness of some of this forums members is a result of 2 things. Answering the same questions over and over again to new members who can't search the forum AND people coming in and posting abusive comments.

Ya, but gravity has been proven; you can call it upward acceleration. Neither camp has an answer for it, so we are both in the same boat when it comes to gravity. I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

But then you keep going with your theoretical magic that answers everything… that you can’t answer.

Ya, but gravity has been proven;

you can call it upward acceleration.

I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

Quote from: spacemanjones on September 04, 2008, 11:53:15 PM

Ya, but gravity has been proven; you can call it upward acceleration. Neither camp has an answer for it, so we are both in the same boat when it comes to gravity. I really like how gravity also relates very well with the other planets orbits, their moons, our moon, the sun… Yet FE has all these different theories that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

But then you keep going with your theoretical magic that answers everything… that you can’t answer.

Gravity has been proven? But you don't have an answer for it? What?

Again, your theoretical magic that answers everything is gravity. Can you honestly not see the contradiction in believing in gravity because you can't actually answer what keeps us on the surface of the round earth, what keeps the planets circling the sun, etc, etc and at the same time ridiculing FET for coming up with different explanations?

Except even in RET, gravity has nothing to do with their orbits.

Please explain how.  I'm wondering what it is that's making them travel in a curved path if its not a gravitational effect.

Or is this another gravity/gravitation semantics thing?

Quote from: mayhem on September 05, 2008, 08:16:20 AM

Please explain how.  I'm wondering what it is that's making them travel in a curved path if its not a gravitational effect.

Curvature of space-time. The inertially moving planets accelerate along all possible curved lines. This accurately explains the perihelion and aphelion shifts of planets that Newton's theory ignored.

Quote from: mayhem on September 05, 2008, 08:16:20 AM

Or is this another gravity/gravitation semantics thing?

Sort of, but that's the point.

Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple.

Quote from: C-Ray on September 05, 2008, 09:29:26 AM

Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple.

You would fall over because your overall force (centripetal vs inertia) would act outside of your point of contact with the ground- your feet. Similar to standing in a bus as it goes around a corner, you need to lean into the turn or you fall over.
In fact, the spherical shape of the Earth allows perpendicular standing as essentially you are falling over, but gravity keeps you perpendicular with the core of the Earth, when with a flat earth you would slide sideways, or as above, fall over.

Sure.. but the whole idea of gravity supports everything you throw at it:

eclipses
moon orbits
planet orbits
sun location
comets
stars
our moon
tides

Your UA doesn't, you have to keep adding things to it, which end up not supporting other items.

What causes the curvature of space-time? 

in RET, the earth is spinning. are people at the equator getting thrown off?

What causes the curvature of space-time?  Last I knew it was the presence of mass.  The greater the mass, the greater the curvature surrounding that mass.  This curvature is also described as a gravitational field.  Gravity in layman's terms unless you want to get all semantical. 

If your friend has boogers running down his face and he asks you for a kleenex and all you have are Puffs brand facial tissues, what do you do?  Do you hand him a tissue or do you tell him "Sorry, I don't have any kleenex." when he can see the box right there.

Quote from: inexorably advancing ice on September 05, 2008, 03:50:12 PM

Quote from: C-Ray on September 05, 2008, 09:29:26 AM

Gravitation, the attraction of all matter for all other matter. Plain and simple.

You would fall over because your overall force (centripetal vs inertia) would act outside of your point of contact with the ground- your feet. Similar to standing in a bus as it goes around a corner, you need to lean into the turn or you fall over.
In fact, the spherical shape of the Earth allows perpendicular standing as essentially you are falling over, but gravity keeps you perpendicular with the core of the Earth, when with a flat earth you would slide sideways, or as above, fall over.

Why would you slide sideways or fall over on a Flat Earth?

It is explained in the first fucking sentence of my post. The FES uses so many pseudoscientific phrases I'd have thought you'd understand real science at least a bit.
Hell, I'm not reposting why when it IS IN THE VERY SAME POST THAT YOU QUOTED.