The Sun and It's Movement

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The Sun and It's Movement
« on: August 30, 2008, 10:45:09 AM »
Hello, first time poster. I want to raise an issue with your FAQ. Under the sunrises sunset bit it says, and I quote:

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It's a perspective effect.  Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it disappears because everything gets smaller and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.

However, the Sun does not get smaller/bigger when it set/rises. It appears to go up and down. It does not change size or shape, and I would please like someone to explain this "phenomenon".
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2008, 10:47:55 AM »
Cue someone posting about how Wizards bend the light. 
" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">Video proof that the Earth is flat!

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2008, 10:51:44 AM »
Cue someone posting about how Wizards bend the light. 



As you can clearly see, the light actually comes from the wizard's wand.

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2008, 10:52:43 AM »
Cue someone posting about how Wizards bend the light. 



As you can clearly see, the light actually comes from the wizard's wand.

Another victory for FE!
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2008, 10:54:16 AM »
TA DA!  The scientific integrity of FET survives unblemished again! 
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2008, 10:55:53 AM »
TA DA!  The scientific integrity of FET survives unblemished again! 

Well, ask a stupid question...
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2008, 10:57:42 AM »
TA DA!  The scientific integrity of FET survives unblemished again! 

Dam, all this time wondering, and it was so obvious!
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 11:00:16 AM »
We're actually a lot more scientifically integritous than you might think.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 11:10:42 AM »
We're actually a lot more scientifically integritous than you might think.

Integral, perhaps? ???
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2008, 11:12:41 AM »
We're actually a lot more scientifically integritous than you might think.

Integral, perhaps? ???

No, I like mine better.  It should be a word, dammit!  >:(
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2008, 11:14:08 AM »
So, I have so far recieved wizards and a new word. This is productive
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2008, 11:21:25 AM »
Sorry your thread was derailed by lolz.  In answer to your question, the size of the sun is distorted by glare as it moves across the sky.
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2008, 11:48:08 AM »
hehe, no probs with the lolz.

But back to the matter at hand. You say the light gets distorted. Fair answer. However, you said it shrinks away, so surely the amount of light reaching the earth would also reduce, thus the light being distorted would still show the sun getting smaller.
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2008, 01:42:25 PM »
can someone refer him to toms very confusing post about the sun
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2008, 01:55:11 PM »
It is confusing, and a simpleton like me needs clarification 1 step at a time :)

So if you wouldn't mind, I would like to fill in the gaps. The more I understand, the better for everyone :)
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2008, 02:12:37 PM »
uhoh someone else has your sig  :-\

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2008, 02:51:25 PM »
really? huh. I got this from watching QI. But never mind
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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2008, 02:52:21 PM »
Your signature?  You got it from A Einstein didn't you?

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2008, 03:12:44 PM »
Your signature?  You got it from A Einstein didn't you?

Yeah, but not directly. I heard it being repeated and liked it much more than other quotes I've heard.
"Only two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe."

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2008, 11:36:01 AM »
Ok I'm going to get back to my original question and enhance it. You have explained the size. But how can you explain the movement of the sun moving across the sky. Glare cannot be used to explain this unless light can refract through the atmosphere in a way which keeps changing even though nothing is moving. The sun moving away cannot make light refract in different directions, unless something is moving.

Now here is a choice as I see it:

1) A flat Earth does spin/move

OR

2) The Sun does move/spin

OR

3) Light can refract in ways that completely breaks the laws of refraction


None of which comply with your claims. Answers please?
"Only two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe."

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2008, 03:13:34 PM »
Stiiiill no answer. Starting to think people are just trying to avoid the question, as with many other threads I've seen
"Only two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe."

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2008, 11:45:39 PM »
Stiiiill no answer. Starting to think people are just trying to avoid the question, as with many other threads I've seen
its the gears. they move the sun and moon.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2008, 11:46:29 PM »
Yeah but I was told the sun and the moon don't move.
"Only two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe."

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Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2008, 11:49:41 PM »
they have to be moving. i dont know about lateral motion, but they are accelerating up and 9.81ms2. obviously...
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

Re: The Sun and It's Movement
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2008, 02:37:02 PM »
Im probably a bit lost here, so can you clear this up for me? If the earth is flat and the sun literally moves through the sky in the day, in the same way that the stars do at night, then how does the sun come up again on the east side the next day?