Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?

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Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« on: September 02, 2008, 02:07:01 AM »
Spaceflights for ordinary people by private companies

I haven't done too much research on this, but I know for a fact that japanese company along with another US company will start doing private spaceflights by 2011 or earlier.

(For a complete list of private spaceflight companies, see this article)

If I were to take such flight and see a round earth, what would your argument be?

Space elevators

The age of space elevators has begun. There are dozens of companies working on space elevators and each year competitions are being held with higher and bigger goals every year. Within the next five years we should have basic building blocks for building a space elevator to space.

Imagine year 2050, hundreds, perhaps thousands of space elevators going to space from all around the Earth. Now, If I were to take a ride to space with one and see that Earth is round what would your argument be?

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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 02:08:10 AM »
Spaceflights for ordinary people by private companies

I haven't done too much research on this, but I know for a fact that japanese company along with another US company will start doing private spaceflights by 2011 or earlier.

(For a complete list of private spaceflight companies, see this article)

If I were to take such flight and see a round earth, what would your argument be?

Space elevators

The age of space elevators has begun. There are dozens of companies working on space elevators and each year competitions are being held with higher and bigger goals every year. Within the next five years we should have basic building blocks for building a space elevator to space.

Imagine year 2050, hundreds, perhaps thousand of space elevators going to space from all around the Earth. Now, If I were to take a ride to space with one and see that Earth is round what would your argument be?

That you saw the curvature of the spotlight shining on the earth.

Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 02:25:51 AM »
That you saw the curvature of the spotlight shining on the earth.

Based on this argument every round object on Earth is in reality flat.

Would you say that we live in 2D world where the 3rd dimension, that we know, is an illusion?

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 02:28:09 AM »
No I wouldn't

Stop putting words into my mouth.


The only true to prove the earth is either round or flat is to go up and get into a stable orbit.  Which none of the private "spaceflights" are going to do.

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 02:34:29 AM »
The only true to prove the earth is either round or flat is to go up and get into a stable orbit.  Which none of the private "spaceflights" are going to do.

False.

Space Adventures company will offer 90 minute long spacewalks to International Space Station (ISS travels around the earth in 90 minutes) and you can extend the length of the spacewalk up to 8 days.

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 03:09:05 AM »
Ahh I stand corrected this is the first one that is offering orbital flights.

Call me when they achieve it.  Until then Im building a rocket in my back yard to do the same thing.  Want to give me some money?

Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 05:02:15 AM »
Ahh I stand corrected this is the first one that is offering orbital flights.

Call me when they achieve it.  Until then Im building a rocket in my back yard to do the same thing.  Want to give me some money?

Space Adventures has already sent 5 men to ISS on their private spaceflights and are planning to send 2 more men to ISS this year.

But from year 2011 ordinary people (with lots of money) will be able to experience spacewalking. Sure, it costs a lot of money, but you have to keep in mind this company is not the only one specialized in private spaceflights, there are literally dozens. And over the years as technology advances spaceflights will get cheaper, faster and easier. NASA is also planning new Moon walks and building base to there (also to Mars) so that people (space tourists) can be transferred to there from Earth, most likely via space elevators since it's fast, cheap and easy way, because some day this planet won't be habitable.

So yeah, some pretty exciting things happening in future, hopefully they convince at least small percentage of FE theorists. Although, if you ask from me, nobody here really believes in this theory, sure, you do fight for it, but so do the members of Flying Spaghetti Monster fight for FSM, it still doesn't mean that they believe in it.

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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2008, 05:19:08 AM »
Spaceflights for ordinary people by private companies

Yawn.  Wake me up when this is a reality, then we can talk.

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Is it 2050 yet?
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 05:19:55 AM »
Ahh I stand corrected this is the first one that is offering orbital flights.

Call me when they achieve it.  Until then Im building a rocket in my back yard to do the same thing.  Want to give me some money?

Space Adventures has already sent 5 men to ISS on their private spaceflights and are planning to send 2 more men to ISS this year.

But from year 2011 ordinary people (with lots of money) will be able to experience spacewalking. Sure, it costs a lot of money, but you have to keep in mind this company is not the only one specialized in private spaceflights, there are literally dozens. And over the years as technology advances spaceflights will get cheaper, faster and easier. NASA is also planning new Moon walks and building base to there (also to Mars) so that people (space tourists) can be transferred to there from Earth, most likely via space elevators since it's fast, cheap and easy way, because some day this planet won't be habitable.

So yeah, some pretty exciting things happening in future, hopefully they convince at least small percentage of FE theorists. Although, if you ask from me, nobody here really believes in this theory, sure, you do fight for it, but so do the members of Flying Spaghetti Monster fight for FSM, it still doesn't mean that they believe in it.


You sir, are a liar.  What they've done is handed people over to the russians for a "supposed" flight to ISS.  The russians are obviously in on the conspiracy.  The first private flight won't be until 2011

http://www.spacefuture.com/journal/journal.cgi?art=2008.06.11.first_private_mission


Try again.

BTW All I need is 10 mil USD and you can secure your seat on my spaceship.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 01:36:57 PM »
according to the "why bother" thread, the russians discovered the conspiracy in the first place.
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2008, 01:42:29 PM »
Hey I made a topic like this not that far back and RE won big time.  :)
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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2008, 02:10:47 PM »
Hey I made a topic like this not that far back and RE won big time.  :)

Another victory for FE!
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2008, 02:12:12 PM »
Hey I made a topic like this not that far back and RE won big time.  :)
This is a blatant falsehood.

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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2008, 02:13:57 PM »
Hey I made a topic like this not that far back and RE won big time.  :)
This is a blatant falsehood.

Can't handle the truth, eh Oscar?
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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2008, 11:45:21 PM »
i'll just sit back and watch as history repeats itself
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2008, 12:38:10 AM »
i'll just sit back and watch as history repeats itself
you do understand that the windows of these so-called spacecraft will have their windows manufactured by nasa, right? nasa has to ensure that the what you see when you look out is still flat. nasa wont be outdone by private spacecraft companies.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 03:00:05 AM »
i was talking in the context of this thread, not nasa or space travel
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2008, 05:16:26 AM »
i'll just sit back and watch as history repeats itself
you do understand that the windows of these so-called spacecraft will have their windows manufactured by nasa, right? nasa has to ensure that the what you see when you look out is still flat. nasa wont be outdone by private spacecraft companies.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that NASA was a glass company. 

Acutally, Corning Inc. generally makes the windows for NASA spacecraft, along with other specialty glass for the aerospace and astronomy communities:
http://www.corning.com/specialtymaterials/ww/en/markets/markets_overview/astronomy.aspx
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Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2008, 05:42:54 AM »
i'll just sit back and watch as history repeats itself
you do understand that the windows of these so-called spacecraft will have their windows manufactured by nasa, right? nasa has to ensure that the what you see when you look out is still flat. nasa wont be outdone by private spacecraft companies.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that NASA was a glass company. 

Acutally, Corning Inc. generally makes the windows for NASA spacecraft, along with other specialty glass for the aerospace and astronomy communities:
http://www.corning.com/specialtymaterials/ww/en/markets/markets_overview/astronomy.aspx
So that proves that Corning Inc. is part of the conspiracy then.
I believe the earth is flat because I have a brain the size of a peanut.

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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2008, 06:25:17 AM »
At least the designer of the window.



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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2008, 06:59:06 AM »
"The age of space elevators has begun."

Lol


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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2008, 10:26:25 AM »
i'll just sit back and watch as history repeats itself
you do understand that the windows of these so-called spacecraft will have their windows manufactured by nasa, right? nasa has to ensure that the what you see when you look out is still flat. nasa wont be outdone by private spacecraft companies.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that NASA was a glass company. 

Acutally, Corning Inc. generally makes the windows for NASA spacecraft, along with other specialty glass for the aerospace and astronomy communities:
http://www.corning.com/specialtymaterials/ww/en/markets/markets_overview/astronomy.aspx
im sorry, didnt realize i had to be so specific. nasa will have say over the design of the windows.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2008, 05:23:03 AM »
i'll just sit back and watch as history repeats itself
you do understand that the windows of these so-called spacecraft will have their windows manufactured by nasa, right? nasa has to ensure that the what you see when you look out is still flat. nasa wont be outdone by private spacecraft companies.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that NASA was a glass company. 

Acutally, Corning Inc. generally makes the windows for NASA spacecraft, along with other specialty glass for the aerospace and astronomy communities:
http://www.corning.com/specialtymaterials/ww/en/markets/markets_overview/astronomy.aspx
im sorry, didnt realize i had to be so specific. nasa will have say over the design of the windows.

Well, Corning also makes a lot of glass for LCD displays (but they don't make the displays themselves), so I see how they might conspiracy dupes, but not necessarily full fledged conspirators.

BTW, as a Corning stock holder, I can tell you that the conspiracy is losing money this quarter.   >:(
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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2008, 05:56:01 AM »
It's not near future science which has put a end to this theory, it's common sense since ages before christ.

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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2008, 06:24:37 AM »
It's not near future science which has put a end to this theory, it's common sense since ages before christ.
Yes, common sense is a massive problem for Flat Earth Theory, however if you ignore it, then FET makes perfect sense.
I believe the earth is flat because I have a brain the size of a peanut.

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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2008, 08:12:09 AM »
Don't confuse brainwashing with common sense.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2008, 08:47:21 AM »
Don't confuse brainwashing with common sense.
This is a good point. It is also important to note that shouting "It's true!" and stamping ones feet does not constitute sound scientific evidence either.
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Re: Near-future technology will put an end to FE theory?
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2008, 09:11:50 AM »
Alot of topics seem to get into the last 4 posts discussion, also contributes nothing to the forum ;) alltho it's a clear win for RET