Greatest Sin

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Greatest Sin
« on: August 28, 2008, 02:29:43 PM »
Hi Guys ^_^

I was wondering what is the greatest sin a man can commit in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and other major religions. For example the greatest sin in my religion (Islam) is to associate a partner or anyone with Allah (God) or worshiping someone with Allah. This is considered the greatest sin and if a human died while worshiping another with Allah he will be in hell for eternity. What I simply want is?

What is the greatest sin in major religions!?

Why it's considered the greatest sin in that religion?

What is the punishment of the sin?

Waiting for your answers
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 04:00:25 PM »
Hmm hadn't heard anything from this dude when Narc was banned............ :-\

Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 04:04:33 PM »
I associate Proffesor Gaypenguin with Allah  :P

Am I going to hell now?

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 04:31:36 PM »
Well many have described me as a more modern Allah...
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 04:35:52 PM »
go away from here.

I would love to grant that wish, but I think it's much better if you do this favor to yourself by leaving the topic if you don't have anything useful! you will save your time and will reduce your temperature and that's alone is good deed ^_^

I associate Proffesor Gaypenguin with Allah  :P

Am I going to hell now?

If I was your god I would say your going to hell, but since I am like yourself a human I can never judge where they will be going because I don't know when and how they will die ^_^ who knows maybe at the last moment something would happen that would take you to heaven and me to hell :)

However if you died with this sin, according to the Islamic religion yes but according to your believes and religions this might be a way to achieve your goal...

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I am not sad or angry to read your comments, but I might be sad I am not learning anything new...

Waiting for answers ^_^
"And say, `All praise belongs to ALLAH; HE will soon show you HIS Signs, and you will know them.' And thy Lord is not unaware of what you do."

"Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? "
(Translations of Allah's Words)

Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 04:41:14 PM »
go away from here.

I would love to grant that wish, but I think it's much better if you do this favor to yourself by leaving the topic if you don't have anything useful! you will save your time and will reduce your temperature and that's alone is good deed ^_^

I associate Proffesor Gaypenguin with Allah  :P

Am I going to hell now?

If I was your god I would say your going to hell, but since I am like yourself a human I can never judge where they will be going because I don't know when and how they will die ^_^ who knows maybe at the last moment something would happen that would take you to heaven and me to hell :)

However if you died with this sin, according to the Islamic religion yes but according to your believes and religions this might be a way to achieve your goal...

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I am not sad or angry to read your comments, but I might be sad I am not learning anything new...

Waiting for answers ^_^

Why are you posting this here?
Here you aren't going to get serieus reactions,
I will be pleased to discus this, PM me iff you want to...

And I am an Athaïst, I don't beleave in a God...
But that doen't say I don't respect religion....
In my eyes is the greatest sin

-murder
-rape, having seks with someone who doesn't want to have it...

I can't figure it out wath is worse....

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 11:54:01 PM »
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Why are you posting this here?
Here you aren't going to get serieus reactions,
I will be pleased to discus this, PM me iff you want to...

And I am an Athaïst, I don't beleave in a God...
But that doen't say I don't respect religion....
In my eyes is the greatest sin

-murder
-rape, having seks with someone who doesn't want to have it...

I can't figure it out wath is worse....

According to the forums instructions if I want to talk about religions or have questions I must post here. However, if the forums instructions misguide users then I am sorry for my mistake. I sincerely thank you that your ready to discuss but in this topic I am not trying to prove that god exists or not but to know  sins in major religions and use short-cuts instead of searching here and there.

It's nice to know what do you think is the greatest sin but what I really looking is what the religions says not the people or followers of that specific religion.

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"Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? "
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 06:51:25 AM »
I am agnostic and don't belive in any god.  I do, however, believe in sin which to me is wrong-doing that involves harming another individual.  Anything you do that hurts another person, whether that be physically of emotionally, is wrong and should be considered sin in my eyes.  As far as the greatest sins, well, that 's a tough question.  I think the people I find most disgusting and vile, who don't deserve the wonders of life are child-rapists.  I'm not talking about the guy who got caught with his 16 year old girl friend.  I'm talking about the 30-40 year old man who kidnaps and rapes a 6-8 year old child.  That is the most disgusting, horrible thing and to me is the greatest sin.  Another one is the torture and murdering of other humans.  It's wrong, its vile, and uncalled for.  There's my opinion.  That's what I find to be the greatest sins.  But this is not according to any god.  This is according to humanity. 
You think that a photograph is indisputable evidence?  Would you like me to show you a photograph of Barack Obama having sex with a gorilla?

Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 05:10:03 AM »
Don't do to others as you wouldn't do to yourself. petty sad the babble bible didn't stop there, otherwise it might have a had a chance

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 06:26:23 AM »
Don't do to others as you wouldn't do to yourself.

This is the most important axiom in my own personal sense of morality. The second most important, I would say, would be to judge the morality of an action by the supposed consequence of every human being performing it simultaneously. Both of these two guidelines cause murder to be wrong, while only the second one would say that overconsumption of resources is wrong.
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2008, 06:38:06 AM »
you have a point there. There are 2 rules, that should be taking in consideration in that case. I've never understood the point of the bible, really. If it just said those 2 things throw in 2 stories, they may have made a more believable book

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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2008, 09:17:31 AM »
This is the most important axiom in my own personal sense of morality. The second most important, I would say, would be to judge the morality of an action by the supposed consequence of every human being performing it simultaneously. Both of these two guidelines cause murder to be wrong, while only the second one would say that overconsumption of resources is wrong.

Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2008, 06:02:32 PM »
I don't think sins can be measured in that of numbers or what is greater/lesser. Something like this is very bias.

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2008, 06:44:37 PM »
I am agnostic and don't belive in any god.
I just wanted to point out that if you are agnostic and have no faith in any god, you are an ATHEIST. a·theism = without·theism = without·belief in God. Carry on.

Don't do to others as you wouldn't do to yourself. petty sad the babble bible didn't stop there, otherwise it might have a had a chance
And yet the rule is not as complete as one is inclined to think. If a sadist is a masochist who practices this golden rule, should his (destructive) behavior be supported? Hint: read Kant.

This is the most important axiom in my own personal sense of morality. The second most important, I would say, would be to judge the morality of an action by the supposed consequence of every human being performing it simultaneously. Both of these two guidelines cause murder to be wrong, while only the second one would say that overconsumption of resources is wrong.
Hmm. My main problem with any absolute rule of ethics is that it almost always ends in a pseudo-prisoner's dilemma showdown. For example, if everyone shows up playing the consequentialist game, people can get shortchanged by the means. If people operate under purely just means, it is very possible to lose to people who are willing to break eggs and just make the damn omelet already. It is easy to forget -- especially since most of us are Americans -- that the good guys do not always win.

In the end, is there a one true way to act? I don't know. But in my understanding of history, I see that the only time good is allowed to thrive is when both games are being played at once. It seems to be a toss of the dice and a cross of the fingers. And before we all go categorical imperative, we would do well to remember that we owe our status to Kissinger's foreign policy, and that all our ability to do good has come from that.
And with a twist, as well.

Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2008, 09:43:09 PM »
i am buddhist and i think the worst thing i can do is to kill someone. a close 2nd is making fun of someone to the point that it hurts them psychologically since i believe in karma. what we do in this life determines how we live our next life.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2008, 02:25:32 PM »
I think in Christianity, it's either suicide or not believing. But in my own faith, Pastafarianism, the worst sin is, and I quote, "genocide or something"
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 05:48:57 PM »
I don't have a problem with the seven deadly sins.
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2008, 06:11:20 PM »
I think this question is difficult because it requires placing sins in a linear order (like on a number line).  I think some sins are comparable and some are not.  How does Adolf Hitler compare to Jeffrey Dahmer? 

This might seem like a cop out but I don't think that all wrong doings are comparable.  This is a question of the existence of absolute morality.  It is entirely possible that for every sin that one thinks up someone can consider that sin and think of a worse one.  (Just like there is no largest number)

Using my imagination...destroying all life on earth with some super weapon (like hydrogen bombs) would probably be the worst.  You could always make people suffer more than that though....I dunno

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 01:15:12 AM »
Isn't the greatest sin in christianity denying the holy ghost? Also, here is a video on the subject:
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2008, 01:25:42 PM »
I think in Christianity, it's either suicide or not believing.
if you didn't believe and had your own religion then wouldn't that not count towards that person?
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2008, 01:39:55 PM »
Stealing the communion wafer in Catholicism apparently

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/its_a_goddamned_cracker.php

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2008, 02:10:32 PM »
I think in Christianity, it's either suicide or not believing.
if you didn't believe and had your own religion then wouldn't that not count towards that person?

Not believing in the Christian god, I mean.
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2008, 10:35:45 PM »
Not thinking for yourself.

IF there was a God, He surely wouldn't care what we did.

Logically it follows that

God is all knowing, all-powerful etc.
Future/present/past are all known to God.
All actions are predestined.
Good/bad/otherwise people are behaving exactly as God has intended or knew they would.

So either God does exist, we have no free will, and He doesn't care what we do.

Or He doesnt' exist

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2008, 01:11:53 PM »
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Truly I say unto you, All their sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter: but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin: because they say, ‘He has an unclean spirit’. Mark 3:28-29

Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Matthew 12:30-32
So, don't talk shit about the Holy Spirit and you should be alright.
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2008, 09:36:04 PM »
Many People say that the Greatest Sin is Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit: because all such Sins cannot be Forgiven, According to what Jesus stated in Matthew 12: 31 ––  37, which reads, in Part: “Wherefore I say to you, All Kinds of Sins and Blasphemies shall be Forgiven to Men; but, the Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit shall not be Forgiven to Men…for by your Words you shall be Justified, and by your Words you shall be Condemned.” However, the GREATEST Sin does not Require Spoken Words; but, it is something within the Minds and Hearts of People, which this Inspired Booklet Reveals, which no one has Proven to be Wrong According to the Scriptures, nor According to Reason and Logic. Therefore, you will be Wise to Study it, just in Case that you might also be Committing that same SIN, for which you may be Greatly CURSED, and not even Know WHY!

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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2008, 10:26:56 AM »
OMG, what's in the booklet?
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2008, 06:04:37 AM »
Allah describes that the greatest sin is associating another one with him, which means someone else beside him being worshiped. He also said that if one died while worshiping someone else with Allah  (Almighty God) he will never forgive his sins. He may forgive all sins if human repented and with his mercy but he would never forgive worshiping another being with him and he promised him hell for eternity.

He describes some of the sins of the people. Here is what he said about the greatest sin

"ALLAH shall not forgive that anything be associated with HIM as partner, but HE will forgive what is short of that to whomsoever HE pleases. And whoso associates anything with ALLAH has indeed strayed far away. "

"And they say (Christians) `The Gracious God has taken unto Himself a son.'  Assuredly, you have indeed uttered a most hideous thing. The heavens might well-nigh burst thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces. Because they ascribe a son to the Gracious God. It becomes not the Gracious God that HE should take unto Himself a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth but he shall come to the Gracious God as a bondman. Verily, HE comprehends them by HIS knowledge and has numbered them all fully. And each of them shall come to HIM on the Day of Resurrection, all alone.
"And say, `All praise belongs to ALLAH; HE will soon show you HIS Signs, and you will know them.' And thy Lord is not unaware of what you do."

"Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? "
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2008, 12:07:01 PM »
Hi Guys ^_^

I was wondering what is the greatest sin a man can commit in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and other major religions. For example the greatest sin in my religion (Islam) is to associate a partner or anyone with Allah (God) or worshiping someone with Allah. This is considered the greatest sin and if a human died while worshiping another with Allah he will be in hell for eternity. What I simply want is?

What is the greatest sin in major religions!?

Why it's considered the greatest sin in that religion?

What is the punishment of the sin?

Waiting for your answers

Islam was created in the seventh century C.E. to oppose the dominant Christian religion at that time. Therefore, it's doctrine is intended to contradict the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, namely that Jesus Christ is the same as the Father and the Holy Spirit and that he is God. The rule you gave clearly illustrates this intention. However, the creators of Islam knew that this approach is inferior, because it will always depend on another religion that it is trying to discredit. Since they were not that stupid, they coined up the rule in general terms, but the intention is obvious. In judeo-christian religions, the Ten Commandments are the rules which have to be obeyed in order not to be sent to eternal Hellfire. The first one (according to Orthodox Christians), and most important is:

I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
you shall have no other gods before me.

The second one is:

You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth

So, Islam's religious interpretation is redundant, since this is clearly stated in the first two commandments.
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Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2008, 03:02:48 AM »
John I am so glad that you did mention this, it's great. You should know that all the messengers (Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah...etc) they were having the same mission, it's to guide the people to worship Almighty God alone without associating anyone with him. Since all the religions are talking about the same almighty god, the concept of God is same for all religions.

What Islam means? Islam comes from the Arabic Word "Salm" which means peace, and Islam means someone who did submitted his soul to Almighty God. Therefore the goal of all the prophets are same, however in old religions such as Judaism, Christianity....etc  they have contradictions, because in them there are the original words of the prophet like saying there is no god but the almighty one, and I already proved by quoting many verses in this forums before but at the same time we see other verses that contradicts the god statement.

I am considered a follower of Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Abraham....etc because I follow their real goal and it's to worship god alone not the corrupted by the humans who added and removed words. Even Jesus himself said he is man approved by in The Bible Acts 2:22.

The God Is One and the mission of the Prophets is to guide people to worship the Almighty God Alone.
"And say, `All praise belongs to ALLAH; HE will soon show you HIS Signs, and you will know them.' And thy Lord is not unaware of what you do."

"Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? "
(Translations of Allah's Words)

Re: Greatest Sin
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2008, 04:27:17 AM »
Mohammed was a messenger of satan who's primary goal was to expand his emipre, rape lots of women and make his prejudices law.