The Earth is not flat...

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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2008, 04:24:52 AM »
Fine...why can't terrestrial observatories track this dark peice of flotsam that interposes itself in a predictable fashion?  If everyone can come up with the math to disprove gravity or prove constant acceleration, then finding this dark blob...(or whatever you call it) should be a cake-walk.

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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2008, 04:31:48 AM »
Fine...why can't terrestrial observatories track this dark peice of flotsam that interposes itself in a predictable fashion?  If everyone can come up with the math to disprove gravity or prove constant acceleration, then finding this dark blob...(or whatever you call it) should be a cake-walk.

That's a very good point, actually. Perhaps finding the shadow object is one way to prove FET once and for all.
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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2008, 04:34:02 AM »
Fine...why can't terrestrial observatories track this dark peice of flotsam that interposes itself in a predictable fashion?  If everyone can come up with the math to disprove gravity or prove constant acceleration, then finding this dark blob...(or whatever you call it) should be a cake-walk.

That's a very good point, actually. Perhaps finding the shadow object is one way to prove FET once and for all.

Or disprove it... ;D

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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2008, 04:37:12 AM »
OK...let me ask this:  wouldn't the shadow object block out all stars along its path, (which can be followed as it tracks across the moon), and followed until it reaches a point where it goes out of view?

Probably the same question as before, just wordrd differently...again, I'm working on hour 22 of insomnia.

Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2008, 04:44:30 AM »
Supposedly, the shadow object is a small object that orbits close to the Sun with a path that prevents that shadow from projecting on the Earth.  Much like the way you make shadow puppets on a movie screen, the size of the shadow is much larger than the object itself due to its proximity to the surface of the Sun.  The reason that you can't see it, or the stars it blocks, is the glare of the Sun prevents observation.  There is no explanation as to why it isn't visible during a solar eclipse.

I hope that I got all of the details correct.

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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2008, 04:46:41 AM »
How have you been, Steve?

I have been rather good, thanks. Bit of car trouble, but apart from that things are running quite smoothly. Yourself?

OK...let me ask this:  wouldn't the shadow object block out all stars along its path, (which can be followed as it tracks across the moon), and followed until it reaches a point where it goes out of view?

Probably the same question as before, just wordrd differently...again, I'm working on hour 22 of insomnia.
Supposedly, the shadow object is a small object that orbits close to the Sun with a path that prevents that shadow from projecting on the Earth.  Much like the way you make shadow puppets on a movie screen, the size of the shadow is much larger than the object itself due to its proximity to the surface of the Sun.  The reason that you can't see it, or the stars it blocks, is the glare of the Sun prevents observation.  There is no explanation as to why it isn't visible during a solar eclipse.

I hope that I got all of the details correct.

That is one hypothesis, yes. Probably the best we have at this point in time. I suspect that there is some reason for it to always be between the moon and the sun, or behind the sun, during a solar eclipse.
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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2008, 04:48:59 AM »
Then how does it block the moon during lunar eclipses?  If I have interpreted FET correctly, It should hang between the moon and Sun, seeing as they are the same size and distance from earth.  I still contend that it should be observable if it existed.

Aside from the insomnia, not too bad.
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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2008, 05:11:27 AM »
Then how does it block the moon during lunar eclipses?  If I have interpreted FET correctly, It should hang between the moon and Sun, ssing as they are the same size and distance from earth.  I still contend that it should be observable if it existed.

Interesting point. We certainly do need a better model of this particular facet of FET.
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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2008, 01:51:31 PM »
About the ice wall, my opinion is that this is simply what you would call the coast of Antarctica, but encircling the earth and holding in the oceans as fits flat earth geography.  Many people have seen it and confirmed its existence, thus I don't feel its necessary to visit it myself.  Unfortunately, circumnavigation would not serve as disproof of FET because it's perfectly possible on a flat earth.

A circumnavigation of the Antarctic coast would serve as evidence against the FE model of the Earth because of the differences in distance that would be present between the two models.

I noticed that no one responded to this one. Would going to the coast, planting a flag, and then sailing along the coast until you arrive back at the flag present proof that the world is indeed round after reviewing distance traveled/time?

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Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2008, 01:57:08 PM »
It would prove that it's possible to circumnavigate Antarctica for sure.

Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2008, 03:00:48 PM »
ok, but if the earth is flat, what keeps the clouds from going over the edge? if it were an ice sheild, one that high would be able to be seen from the southern coast of south america at least.

Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2008, 01:18:23 AM »
Since the ice wall is only supposed to be 150 feet or so, that's an interesting question....

Re: The Earth is not flat...
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2008, 01:39:17 AM »
I noticed that no one responded to this one. Would going to the coast, planting a flag, and then sailing along the coast until you arrive back at the flag present proof that the world is indeed round after reviewing distance traveled/time?

I am sure that there would be questions about how you determined that distance.  They don't say that you can't circumnavigate Antarctica, just that the distance has to be greater than the distance for RE geography by a factor of greater than ten.  Since they say that the Earth is flat, any evidence that shows otherwise must be erroneous or fake.