Mythbusters did the moon landing

Quote from: Hara Taiki on August 29, 2008, 10:02:30 AM

They look worse than the photorealistic paintings.

I don't buy it.

that's the point, these photos are real!

forensically analyze

Quote from: ragnarr on August 29, 2008, 10:51:07 AM

forensically analyze

read: spread the lies of the conspiracy

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I am sure he does not, if you look at the other work he has done you will notice that none of them look anything close to the "painting" of the girl. His other works are good but they are still obvious paintings

I don't know what you're talking about. Most of his other paintings look pretty photo-realistic

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More trickery?

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That doesn't look like a 400 year old image to me.

What tipped you off?

a typical FE response. stop being so paranoid, it's annoying.

Quote from: Bumstain McCain on August 29, 2008, 10:33:37 AM

a typical FE response. stop being so paranoid, it's annoying.

Stop being so ignorant and naive, it's annoying.

ignorant?? what, believing in modern science???

fool.

Quote from: sokarul on August 28, 2008, 10:55:47 PM

You need to back up that statement

I have seen cameras functioning on Earth. I have not seen them functioning on the moon. What is more likely, that NASA managed to send three men out into space and film them walking on a piece of rock hundreds of thousands of kilometres away, something that I cannot directly observe, or that they simply filmed what was supposed to be the moon landing on Earth, using technology with which I am reasonably familiar?

The world does not revolve around you. 

for those of you so strongly doubting the mythbusters episode, it would work strongly in your favor if you at least watched the show before you so staunchly disprove it. one could make the argument that you fet'ers are indeed the naive and stubborn ones instead of the ret'ers by not doing so.

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for those of you so strongly doubting the mythbusters episode, it would work strongly in your favor if you at least watched the show before you so staunchly disprove it. one could make the argument that you fet'ers are indeed the naive and stubborn ones instead of the ret'ers by not doing so.

I saw it. It was stupid. It's available here online.

"debunking the conspirator's claim that can't footsteps are impossible to make in a vacuum and flags can't wave"

I mean, really? No one with education beyond Middle School claims that. 

I had never heard the footprint one but I have heard the flag waving theory many, many times.

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I had never heard the footprint one but I have heard the flag waving theory many, many times.

Leave it to Mythbusters to pick and choose the dumbest claims from the arsenal of evidence against Apollo.

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Maybe they should actually try to explain some of the serious discrepancies such as why NASA submitted a 110 page proposal for a 6 billion dollar government project (other government proposals of that scale are more than 8,000 pages long according to various interviews with government contractors).

Really good writers that are concise and get to the point?  That doesn't really seem like something you can test to see if it is true or not true.

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Mythbusters can also try to explain why shortly before publishing his 500 page report outing the Apollo program, former NASA safety inspector Thomas Baron and his immediate family decided to commit group suicide together by parking their sedan on a train track (his report later went missing).

Well, his initial report (56 pages) is available and was publicly discussed.  What makes you think that the report based on his initial report would have been much different.  His initial report has about safety violations and procedural violations.  He testified before congress in open session and the records of that testimony is available.  He had a chance to make his case, and some of his points were taken seriously and led to reforms.

Now I am guessing that you are aware that gravity on the moon is only 1/6th of the earths gravity so they only weighed about 60 pounds, so why wouldn't they seem much lighter on their feet.

Officially Thomas Baron's death is ruled a suicide. Had he been murdered, it would have made more sense to do that before he testified and before he delivered a lengthy report to Congress. Baron had already been known to the press as a sort of whistle-blower and a critic of North American since early 1967 at the latest. To try to "silence" him three months later, after his testimony, is useless.

NASA had nothing to gain by Baron's death. North American would have had something to gain had it occurred before his testimony and report. As it happens, North American was not seriously implicated by Baron's testimony. NAA was able to substantiate that it had acted on the valid points of Baron's first report with due diligence, and was doing so when the Apollo 1 tragedy occurred.

If we dig a big deeper, we find that Thomas Baron was merely a pawn in a much larger political game. Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN), an avowed opponent of NASA and space exploration, used the Apollo 1 hearings to reopen the question of whether Apollo was a prudent use of the nation's resources, and arranged for Baron's testimony precisely because he thought it would illustrate the waste and mismanagement at NASA and its contractors. We doubt whether Sen. Mondale was aware of how poor a witness Baron would turn out to be.

By his own admission, Baron had been treated earlier for an unspecified nervous condition. It is likely he was not in a good state of mental health during this period.

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Now I am guessing that you are aware that gravity on the moon is only 1/6th of the earths gravity so they only weighed about 60 pounds, so why wouldn't they seem much lighter on their feet.

1/6^th gravity wouldn't cause an astronaut to dangle above the surface of the moon or seem to jump without his feet touching the surface.

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Officially Thomas Baron's death is ruled a suicide. Had he been murdered, it would have made more sense to do that before he testified and before he delivered a lengthy report to Congress. Baron had already been known to the press as a sort of whistle-blower and a critic of North American since early 1967 at the latest. To try to "silence" him three months later, after his testimony, is useless.

NASA had nothing to gain by Baron's death. North American would have had something to gain had it occurred before his testimony and report. As it happens, North American was not seriously implicated by Baron's testimony. NAA was able to substantiate that it had acted on the valid points of Baron's first report with due diligence, and was doing so when the Apollo 1 tragedy occurred.

Please stop plagiarizing from Clavius.

http://www.clavius.org/baron.html

The entire website reads like NASA apologist wish wash.

Please stop plagiarizing from Clavius.

http://www.clavius.org/baron.html

The entire website reads like NASA apologist wish wash. "Blame everyone but NASA," indeed.

At least it's attributable.  All we have is your word that it Didn't happen.  I'll go with publication anytime.

He even makes a point that I didn't.  It would have made more sense for "the conspiracy" to have killed him before he could testify.

About your video at the 1:40 mark...fail...try full screen, you will see his feet touch the ground.  True it's on his toes, but at 1/6th g, he only weighs about 65 pounds or so.  Muhammed Ali weighed 225 at 1 g, and was bouncing on his toes during boxing matches...or jumping rope in training.

Baron was able to testify and submit a short 50 page report before the NASA was able to notice, but unfortunately his life was cut prematurely before he was able to publish his 500 page report which went into detail about the going ons at NASA.

And nowhere in his testimony, 50 pages of evidence, and numerous press interviews did he drop a hint that there was something other than safety and procedural violations happening.  Not even something that in hindsight can be interpreted that way.  Here he is trying to convince congress and the public that NASA and North American are involved in all of these activities that he doesn't like, and he doesn't mention it at all?

Baron was appointed by Congress to oversee construction of the landers, rockets, and capsules. Obviously if NASA never intended to invest into building the equipment aerospace quality as advertised and instead threw them together as props the trained safety inspector Baron would have been tipped off and seen the construction and testing process as outrageous safety violations.

Putting your blind faith into something you've never seen or tested for yourself is ignorance, yes. Any demonstration of blind faith is ignorance.

Watch " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video closely and fast forward to the 1:40 mark. Why is the weight distribution of the astronauts in some of the Apollo footage so funky? The astronaut in the scene seemingly dangles above the moon and jumps up slightly without his feet being in contact with the moon's surface.

Quote from: sokarul on August 29, 2008, 10:52:24 PM

The world does not revolve around you. 

I never said it did.