Mythbusters did the moon landing

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Mythbusters did the moon landing
« on: August 27, 2008, 07:07:46 PM »
I didn't catch it all but they were busting myths dealing with NASA faking the moon landings. 
Every single myth they did was busted. 
I caught it late.  The ones I saw:
A myth dealing with the flag.
Faking moon walking. 
Also they did shine a laser at the moon to see if reflectors had been planted.

I think they also did the shadows being wrong. 

As said, all myths were busted.

What happens now?  They were wrong? 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 07:08:52 PM »
How were the myths busted? We need details damnit!!
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 07:10:59 PM »
I know.  I was so disappointed!


Who would have thought Mythbusters was affiliated with the Conspiracy?  It was obvious propaganda, and I for one now question every myth they've ever "confirmed" or "busted"!
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2008, 07:12:49 PM »
How were the myths busted? We need details damnit!!

For one myth they tried to fake low gravity "walking" and they couldn't get it to look like old video.  Then they went to Zero G and were able to fake moon "walking" in actual 1/6th gravity. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2008, 07:15:51 PM »
All those explanations to explain away the moon anomalies are pretty much "it's an illusion!!" with no further evidence to corroborate that assertion. Mythbusters, Bad Astronomy, et all. will need to actually prove that it's all an illusion. Anyone can yell "it's an illusion" at anything. The claim of an illusion along with some vague explanation concerning optics or physics isn't proof that the explanation is true. It isn't proof of anything.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 07:18:48 PM »
How were the myths busted? We need details damnit!!

For one myth they tried to fake low gravity "walking" and they couldn't get it to look like old video.  Then they went to Zero G and were able to fake moon "walking" in actual 1/6th gravity. 

Maybe they didn't try hard enough.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 07:22:31 PM »
All those explanations to explain away the moon anomalies are pretty much "it's an illusion!!" with no further evidence to corroborate that assertion. Mythbusters, Bad Astronomy, et all. will need to actually prove that it's all an illusion. Anyone can yell "it's an illusion" at anything. The claim of an illusion along with some vague explanation concerning optics or physics isn't proof that the explanation is true.

So is it your opinion that man has walked on the moon, or that the skeptics have done a poor job of disproving the moon landings?

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 07:27:39 PM »
All those explanations to explain away the moon anomalies are pretty much "it's an illusion!!" with no further evidence to corroborate that assertion. Mythbusters, Bad Astronomy, et all. will need to actually prove that it's all an illusion. Anyone can yell "it's an illusion" at anything. The claim of an illusion along with some vague explanation concerning optics or physics isn't proof that the explanation is true.

What?

Watch the show.  They proved it wasn't illusions. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2008, 07:28:14 PM »
All those explanations to explain away the moon anomalies are pretty much "it's an illusion!!" with no further evidence to corroborate that assertion. Mythbusters, Bad Astronomy, et all. will need to actually prove that it's all an illusion. Anyone can yell "it's an illusion" at anything. The claim of an illusion along with some vague explanation concerning optics or physics isn't proof that the explanation is true.

So is it your opinion that man has walked on the moon, or that the skeptics have done a poor job of disproving the moon landings?

I would say the latter, unfortunately, although the Mythbusters really just picked a lot of the most obvious points to disprove, and ones that you would expect NASA to want to get right in the first place.  They ignored a lot of other points (obviously they couldn't get to everything in an hour-long show).  By busting some of the skeptics' theories they didn't really prove that the moon landings weren't a hoax, merely that what they presented was inadequate evidence of a hoax.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 07:35:48 PM »
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So is it your opinion that man has walked on the moon, or that the skeptics have done a poor job of disproving the moon landings?

Skeptics have done a fine job of disproving the moon landing. There are actually some good anomalies pointed out which cannot be explained by optical illusions and effects no matter how imaginative the debunker is. There are also other facts  concerning the Apollo missions which cannot be explained at all - mysterious suicides of NASA safety inspectors just before the were scheduled to publish their congressional report, the fact that NASA's 6 billion dollar proposal for the lunar lander was only 110 pages long (in contrast to 8,000 page long proposals for similar sized government projects), the fact that the New York Times has articles describing how scientists complain that NASA tries to silence them. The list goes on and on. No optical illusion can explain that.

The thing is that Mythbusters and those two-bit Fox specials have an agenda and pick and choose for the easiest of the phenomenas to combat. I mean, really, waving flag? That one has been around since the early 70's, pointed out by the public as a curiosity on the first day the videos were aired. A lot of these are just stupid nitpicks from joe average.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 08:09:18 PM »
I think the skeptics mostly "dig" for things to criticize, with no actual proof that the thing in question was fake.  Meanwhile, the believers, etc, fail at refuting them because 1) they can't simulate moon conditions perfectly, and 2) they just don't try hard enough.

Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 09:09:36 PM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.

Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 09:21:44 PM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.
How did they "prove" this?

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2008, 09:31:53 PM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.
How did they "prove" this?
Shot a laser at the moon. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2008, 09:35:27 PM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.
How did they "prove" this?
Shot a laser at the moon. 
Pfffffffffffffft! Sorry, but that's the lamest "evidence" I've ever heard...

The moon landing hoax theory still stands.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2008, 07:20:50 AM »
 ::)

We have videos of them landing.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2008, 07:27:21 AM »
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We have videos of them landing.

We also have videos of Harry Potter learning magic at Hogwarts. What is your point?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2008, 07:32:41 AM »
::)

We have videos of them landing.

We also have videos of Harry Potter learning magic at Hogwarts. What is your point?

They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2008, 07:45:34 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2008, 07:51:49 AM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.
How did they "prove" this?
Shot a laser at the moon. 
Pfffffffffffffft! Sorry, but that's the lamest "evidence" I've ever heard...

The moon landing hoax theory still stands.

All this yapping about they didn't land... you guys have yet to state any of you proof that they didn't.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2008, 08:00:59 AM »
They proved that there is man-made equipment from Apollo 15 on the moon today.

I'd say that's pretty solid evidence.
How did they "prove" this?

Apparently one of the Apollo missions (I think they said it was 5) left some sort of reflector, a very large one, so that we would be able to fire a laser at it and get the reflected beam back, and that therein showed that we had been to the moon, according to them.

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2008, 08:01:21 AM »
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All this yapping about they didn't land... you guys have yet to state any of you proof that they didn't.

You want us to prove a negative? Why don't you do what's actually possible and prove a positive?

It's not our responsibility to prove that ghosts *don't* exist, or that so and so *didn't* invent a time machine.

The burden is entirely on you to prove that NASA can send men to the moon, robots to mars, and blast 1000 tons of matter into space at 9 miles per second. I didn't make any of those claims. You did.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2008, 08:26:23 AM »
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All this yapping about they didn't land... you guys have yet to state any of you proof that they didn't.

You want us to prove a negative? Why don't you do what's actually possible and prove a positive?

It's not our responsibility to prove that ghosts *don't* exist, or that so and so *didn't* invent a time machine.

The burden is entirely on you to prove that NASA can send men to the moon, robots to mars, and blast 1000 tons of matter into space at 9 miles per second. I didn't make any of those claims. You did.

They did prove it.  Did you watch it yet? 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2008, 10:05:22 AM »
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All this yapping about they didn't land... you guys have yet to state any of you proof that they didn't.

You want us to prove a negative? Why don't you do what's actually possible and prove a positive?

It's not our responsibility to prove that ghosts *don't* exist, or that so and so *didn't* invent a time machine.

The burden is entirely on you to prove that NASA can send men to the moon, robots to mars, and blast 1000 tons of matter into space at 9 miles per second. I didn't make any of those claims. You did.

Actually, we have supplied you with plenty of evidence (videos, photos, laser reflectors, etc.) that man has been to the moon.  The fact that you reject the evidence out of hand does not mean that we haven't met our burden of proof.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2008, 10:07:07 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?

They DID film it.  ::)
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2008, 10:17:38 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?

They DID film it.  ::)

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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2008, 10:19:59 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?

They DID film it.  ::)

hahaha and Steve thinks he's going to be a scientist. 

Atleast he knows the Earth is round. BTW do you think it's possible to find some videos of it on YouTube or something?
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2008, 10:22:16 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?

They DID film it.  ::)

hahaha and Steve thinks he's going to be a scientist. 

Atleast he knows the Earth is round. BTW do you think it's possible to find some videos of it on YouTube or something?

The mythbusters or the original moon landing?  It looks like the mythbusters are on youtube. 
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2008, 10:24:30 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?

They DID film it.  ::)

hahaha and Steve thinks he's going to be a scientist. 

Atleast he knows the Earth is round. BTW do you think it's possible to find some videos of it on YouTube or something?

The mythbusters or the original moon landing?  It looks like the mythbusters are on youtube. 

The original moon landing. It could be out there somewhere.
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Re: Mythbusters did the moon landing
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2008, 10:25:55 AM »
They landed on the moon in 1969, way before they could even dream of making a false landing at Hollywood.

So they can send astronauts thousands of kilometres out into space but they can't film a couple of guys walking around in spacesuits for a few minutes?

They DID film it.  ::)

hahaha and Steve thinks he's going to be a scientist. 

Atleast he knows the Earth is round. BTW do you think it's possible to find some videos of it on YouTube or something?

The mythbusters or the original moon landing?  It looks like the mythbusters are on youtube. 

The original moon landing. It could be out there somewhere.

Looks like it is also on youtube. 
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