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jambon

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Re: Wow!
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2008, 08:28:55 AM »
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Yet again, you're just trying to avoid the issue. Please answer this simple question:

Can you get a football that is 1km long?

This was never the issue or the question. What's wrong with you?

To answer your random question then yes, you could get a football that is 500m in radius. It is possible. It would be prohibitively expensive to construct though but it is certainly possible. You'd need quite a lot of material to construct it:

The surface area of a sphere is given by 4 * pie * radius * radius. In this case the surface area would be approximately 3,141,592.65 metres squared of primarily synthetic leather sheet, plus glue and chord.

Does this answer your retarded question?

Now, do you have anymore FE gems from your alleged "many, many, many" tally of "two"?

I think you are just trying to get a reaction personally as your claims are too outrageous to be taken seriously but we'll see...
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TheEngineer

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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2008, 08:40:44 AM »
The surface area of a sphere is given by 4 * pie * radius * radius.
What kind of pie?  Does it matter?  I like apple, personally.


I'm sure you are a physicist.   ::)


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jambon

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Re: Wow!
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 08:41:59 AM »
Do you believe the earth is flat?
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TheEngineer

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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 08:45:13 AM »
Do you believe that apple pie is the correct pie to use?


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jambon

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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2008, 08:48:12 AM »
Sorry...pi. My mistake   :-[.

I grabbed the equation from a website as I could not remember the exact formula and they'd written it as pie, not pi and I didn't register the mistake...
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2008, 08:52:04 AM »
TheEngineer - Do you believe the earth is flat?
Is the earth a pancake?

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Re: Wow!
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2008, 08:53:59 AM »
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Yet again, you're just trying to avoid the issue. Please answer this simple question:

Can you get a football that is 1km long?

This was never the issue or the question. What's wrong with you?

To answer your random question then yes, you could get a football that is 500m in radius. It is possible. It would be prohibitively expensive to construct though but it is certainly possible. You'd need quite a lot of material to construct it:

The surface area of a sphere is given by 4 * pie * radius * radius. In this case the surface area would be approximately 3,141,592.65 metres squared of primarily synthetic leather sheet, plus glue and chord.

Does this answer your retarded question?

Now, do you have anymore FE gems from your alleged "many, many, many" tally of "two"?

I think you are just trying to get a reaction personally as your claims are too outrageous to be taken seriously but we'll see...

Yes, you can hypothetically get a football that's 1km long but I need one in real life if I'm going to perform the same experiment.

If I only did the experiment at 30cm on the earth everybody would complain that it was too short a distance to get the expected results.

Now can you please provide me with a link to a store that sells these 1km large footballs.

TheEngineer - Do you believe the earth is flat?

That's a really silly question to ask on the Flat Earth Society website.

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jambon

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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2008, 08:55:44 AM »
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If I only did the experiment at 30cm on the earth everybody would complain that it was too short a distance to get the expected results.

Why?
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Sean O'Grady

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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2008, 08:58:28 AM »
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If I only did the experiment at 30cm on the earth everybody would complain that it was too short a distance to get the expected results.

Why?

Because that's what they always do - 30cm is too small a distance to experience the curvature of the earth.

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TheEngineer

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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2008, 08:58:35 AM »
TheEngineer - Do you believe the earth is flat?
I don't believe it is a sphere.


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jambon

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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2008, 09:03:25 AM »
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Because that's what they always do - 30cm is too small a distance to experience the curvature of the earth.

Who are "they"?

What I'm trying to get across here is the fact that size is not important. When you make a model car,  a scaled down replica of the original, it is still the same shape as the original car but smaller. Same applies to the football and the earth. If you were much, much smaller and were on the football it would be the same (in terms of dimensions) as the earth.

Does this make any sense to you at all?
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Sean O'Grady

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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2008, 09:16:49 AM »
Fair enough, then where am I going to get a microscopic scaled down ruler and how the bloody hell am I going to be able to see it??? Use some common sense man!

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jambon

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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2008, 09:18:15 AM »
Oh fuck off child
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Sean O'Grady

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Re: Wow!
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2008, 09:33:18 AM »
Always the way, realise how stupid you've been and then start hurling abuse.

So typical of a REer.

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jambon

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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2008, 09:34:42 AM »
I can't take you seriously I'm afraid
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Sean O'Grady

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Re: Wow!
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2008, 09:44:16 AM »
And yet you take an idea like RET seriously, look how silly it is:


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Nightmare

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« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2008, 09:54:58 AM »
All you fuckers should build a rocket ship and fly to outerspace!  ;D
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Sean O'Grady

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« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2008, 10:00:45 AM »
But how would we safely return to the earth?

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« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2008, 10:01:57 AM »
Through solid, robust engineering.
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« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2008, 10:23:52 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think what the original poster is trying to point out is that if the ruler is always perpendicular to the surface, the measurement will always be the same.  Whether you measure over 1 meter or 100 kilometers.  It just doesn't matter.  Am I close Jambon?
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« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2008, 11:17:59 AM »
TheEngineer - Do you believe the earth is flat?
I don't believe it is a sphere.
Do you believe the earth to be an oblate spheroid?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Wow!
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2008, 12:55:58 PM »
Can't... take... the... earnestness...
Quote from: Arthur Schopenhauer
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2008, 01:45:21 PM »
im wondering how the hell one can get a GPS signal when at deep sea...
thats one hell of alot of hardware needed.

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« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2008, 01:47:53 PM »
im wondering how the hell one can get a GPS signal when at deep sea...
thats one hell of alot of hardware needed.

Stratellites

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C-Ray

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« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2008, 01:52:55 PM »
im wondering how the hell one can get a GPS signal when at deep sea...
thats one hell of alot of hardware needed.

Stratellites
Stratellite is a brand name (Stratellite is a trademark of Sanswire Network, LLC, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of GlobeTel Communications Corp.) for a future emissions-free, high-altitude stratospheric airship that provides a stationary communications platform for various types of wireless signals usually carried by communications towers or satellites. The Stratellite is a concept that has undergone several years of research and development, and is not yet commercially available; Sanswire, with its partner TAO Technologies, anticipates its current testing sequence to include the launch of a Stratellite into the stratosphere.
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lomein987

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« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2008, 01:54:08 PM »
Thats a hell of alot of stratellites - i supposed they were mass produced.

I did the footbal experiment - with a Wilson - and NFL version of the pigskin using Tai Lungs method... I conclude that indeed - the football is also flat. 0cm everywhere I measured.

I did the experiment multiple times - and I even tried it on a cantelope.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Wow!
« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2008, 01:54:45 PM »
Like the Conspiracy would advertise on Wikipedia.  ::)

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C-Ray

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« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2008, 02:04:47 PM »
Like the Conspiracy would advertise on Wikipedia.  ::)
4600 hits.  They advertise somewhere.  oh and BTW at $20 million each and a coverage area of 300,000 square miles having to cover a surface area of 196,935,000 square miles somebody better adjust their costs on the conspiracy.  And please explain how it is held in place by 6 on board GPS when it is the damn GPS signal.

STRATELLITE SPECS:

    * Length: 245 feet
    * Width: 145 feet
    * Height: 87 feet
    * Volume: 1.3 million cubic feet
    * Dual envelopes, both made of Kevlar
    * Powered by electric motors
    * Outer envelope covered in film photovoltaic (solar) units
    * Payload capacity: 3,000 pounds
    * Maximum altitude: 70,000 feet
    * Desired altitude: 65,000 feet
    * Proprietary Lifting Gas Technology
    * Held in position by 6 onboard GPS units connected to the ship’s engines
    * Line-of-sight to a 300,000 square mile area
    * Wireless capability (currently) to an area with a radius of 200 miles
    * Controlled by earth stations on the ground
    * Maximum duration: 18 months (a replacement ship will be in position prior to bringing original ship down for retrofitting. The original ship will return to its position after retrofitting.
    * Each airship is 100% reclaimable
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« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2008, 02:13:57 PM »
  oh and BTW at $20 million each and a coverage area of 300,000 square miles .....

That would be coverage using RE figures.  The coverage on a FE would not be the same.  I'm surmising it would be much larger.

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C-Ray

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« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2008, 02:21:04 PM »
  oh and BTW at $20 million each and a coverage area of 300,000 square miles .....

That would be coverage using RE figures.  The coverage on a FE would not be the same.  I'm surmising it would be much larger.

You are right there.  Sorry about the confusion.  I am just used to using the RET figures.  If I was good at math, I would figure the requirements for FET.  That still doesn't answer the question as to how it is guided by GPS, when it is the GPS.
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