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dyno

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Username + Dogplatter
« on: August 19, 2008, 12:32:24 AM »
What are your opinions on the latest "bendy light" theory with the bedford experiment disproof.

What are your opinions on the latest FE map and problematical daylight distributions maps.

You two have been very quiet of late

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Username + Dogplatter
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 12:36:23 AM »
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What are your opinions on the latest FE map and problematical daylight distributions maps

Did you time the lengths of the day from every point on the earth's surface?

Who did?

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cbreiling

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 03:05:59 AM »
Did you time the lengths of the day from every point on the earth's surface?

Who did?

Here's a question for you: why must everything be personal? I have never seen the Grand Canyon, nor have I spoken recently with anyone who has, so I can easily dismiss its existence. All the photos were faked.

With regard to who records sunrise and sunsets, there have been many amateurs and professionals, hobbyists and scientists, school children and the merely curious, who have done just that, for centuries. Now the mechanisms are well established: moon orbits the earth every 28 days, earth orbits the sun every 365.25 days, earth spins once on its axis every 24 hours, earth's axis aligned 23.5 degrees from the axis of orbit, etc... Today we can simply plug all the facts into a big ENIAC and have it spit out the tables.

And if you doubt the veracity of any table, you can simply check for yourself.

Here is a sampling, for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (near me):
1. http://www.superpages.com/cities/suntimes.cgi?T=Philadelphia&S=PA
2. http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/philadelphia-pennsylvania.html
3. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=198
4. http://www.sunrisesunset.com/usa/Pennsylvania.asp

#2 has some nifty charts showing the passage of the sun across the sky for a given location.
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It's because you asked about data. Theories can be pulled from the rectum without any apparent embarrassment, but pulling data from there is embarrassing even here. lol

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zork

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 03:23:23 AM »
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What are your opinions on the latest FE map and problematical daylight distributions maps

Did you time the lengths of the day from every point on the earth's surface?

Who did?
Just for ... I don't know for what.

 Have any of you ever seen that earth is flat? Have any of you seen and documented the light beam bend upward(and this is looking from side, not the experiments where results can be explained from light bending upward)? Have you ever seen the earth rim? Have you ever seen the sun close up so you can claim that it is as small and as high as you claim? Have you ever seen ....
 I doubt that you have, so. Why do you always ask that from others when you itself haven't seen anything that you claim is true?
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Username + Dogplatter
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 10:44:57 AM »
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And if you doubt the veracity of any table, you can simply check for yourself.

Here is a sampling, for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (near me):
1. http://www.superpages.com/cities/suntimes.cgi?T=Philadelphia&S=PA
2. http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/philadelphia-pennsylvania.html
3. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=198
4. http://www.sunrisesunset.com/usa/Pennsylvania.asp

#2 has some nifty charts showing the passage of the sun across the sky for a given location.

Um, those are computer generated based on a RE.

No one went out and collected that data.

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 10:49:01 AM »
TB back on form, ignoring one point and nitpicking a minor detail in the other.

At least he isn't talking about his "whirling cornucopia's".

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zork

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 11:58:10 AM »
No one went out and collected that data.
And I ask again same questions what were above:
Have any of you ever seen that earth is flat? Have any of you seen and documented the light beam bend upward(and this is looking from side, not the experiments where results can be explained from light bending upward)? Have you ever seen the earth rim? Have you ever seen the sun close up so you can claim that it is as small and as high as you claim? Have you ever collected some data to back up your claim that earth is flat? Have you ever seen ....
 I doubt that you have, so. Why do you always ask that from others when you itself haven't seen anything that you claim is true and you haven't collected any data to back up your claims?
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 12:09:03 PM »
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And if you doubt the veracity of any table, you can simply check for yourself.

Here is a sampling, for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (near me):
1. http://www.superpages.com/cities/suntimes.cgi?T=Philadelphia&S=PA
2. http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/philadelphia-pennsylvania.html
3. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=198
4. http://www.sunrisesunset.com/usa/Pennsylvania.asp

#2 has some nifty charts showing the passage of the sun across the sky for a given location.

Um, those are computer generated based on a RE.

No one went out and collected that data.

What is your location, and do the sunset/rise times match the chart?
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Run run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me cos I'm in the lollipop forest and you can't get there!

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markjo

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 12:54:06 PM »
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And if you doubt the veracity of any table, you can simply check for yourself.

Here is a sampling, for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (near me):
1. http://www.superpages.com/cities/suntimes.cgi?T=Philadelphia&S=PA
2. http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/philadelphia-pennsylvania.html
3. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=198
4. http://www.sunrisesunset.com/usa/Pennsylvania.asp

#2 has some nifty charts showing the passage of the sun across the sky for a given location.

Um, those are computer generated based on a RE.

But most importantly, they are accurate because the RE model works quite well.

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No one went out and collected that data.

Are you suggesting that the people who wrote the software that generate those charts haven't tested the accuracy of said charts?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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cbreiling

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 01:38:42 PM »
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And if you doubt the veracity of any table, you can simply check for yourself.

Um, those are computer generated based on a RE.

No one went out and collected that data.

What is your location, and do the sunset/rise times match the chart?

Yes, my location is near Philadelphia, PA, and Yes, the charts match my own personal observations. (I'm a pyrotechnician and I care very much when the sun sets and when twilight ends! I'm doing a show for a friend's wedding in two weeks, and you can bet I'll turn to these RE tables. :) ) Other people like fishermen and skywatchers (this includes a vast amount of hobbyists) pay close attention to these tables, and in the Philadelphia newspapers they're published prominently. If you get closer to the Atlantic the newspapers also print Tide charts, which are also completely dependant on Round Earth theory (being that Gravity exists and all).

And Tom is correct!  :-* Those are computer generated charts based on the Round Earth model. It must be an amazing coincidence that untold millions of data points (if you include years of charts in all the cities of the world) based on the Round Earth model are correct, being that the Earth is flat.

But don't take my word for it, try it yourself, with a city near you (get out of that zetetic armchair)!
http://www.gaisma.com/en/dir/001-continent.html

Does anyone have any FE data points? Can any FE proponent explain the magic flashlight's pattern of illumination on the equinoxes? Can anyone say that the "tilted dinnerplate with sloshing seawater" is honestly a better explanation (and predictor) of tides that the pull of the Moon's gravity (plus the Sun's)?
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It's because you asked about data. Theories can be pulled from the rectum without any apparent embarrassment, but pulling data from there is embarrassing even here. lol

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dyno

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 07:09:55 AM »
It's a shame Username, Dogplatter, Ski and some others aren't sticking there noses in.
We only have Robosteve as a genuine FE proponent(defender..whatever) Tombot and Narc wailing as usual but with only RS providing any real substance.

Where are the other serious FE's. Are they hanging out on the .net board?

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Robbyj

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 11:24:09 AM »
I'm a pyrotechnician and I care very much when the sun sets and when twilight ends!

And as a high school Math teacher, I mean that sincerely.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2008, 11:36:25 AM by Robbyj »
Why justify an illegitimate attack with a legitimate response?

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Mrs. Peach

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 11:41:47 AM »
He moonlights?  ;D

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Robbyj

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 11:43:34 AM »
Or he's full of it.
Why justify an illegitimate attack with a legitimate response?

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AmateurAstronomer

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Re: Username + Dogplatter
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2008, 11:49:29 AM »
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And if you doubt the veracity of any table, you can simply check for yourself.

Here is a sampling, for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (near me):
1. http://www.superpages.com/cities/suntimes.cgi?T=Philadelphia&S=PA
2. http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/philadelphia-pennsylvania.html
3. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=198
4. http://www.sunrisesunset.com/usa/Pennsylvania.asp

#2 has some nifty charts showing the passage of the sun across the sky for a given location.

Um, those are computer generated based on a RE.

No one went out and collected that data.

But the thing is Tom, despite the fact that it's computer generated you can pick any point at random, and odds are it's spot on. It's not necessary to record data for every square foot of the planet when you have an algorithm that can do it just fine.

Also, people in most civilized nations have these things called "local newspapers" a number of which have sunrise, sunset, and high/low tides listed.  If they're like my local paper, they're pretty spot on for areas with a clear view of the horizon, and, not surprisingly, these numbers jibe with a computer generated estimate.
Reality becomes apparent to the patient observer. Or you can learn a thing or two if you're in a hurry.

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cbreiling

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Re: Username + Dogplatter
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2008, 11:52:35 AM »
Mrs. Peach and RobbyJ:

How about this, I'm full of moonlight.  :P

But yes, I'm a trained pyrotechnician, and have choreographed award-winning shows in Virginia, and recently built my own electrical firing panel for more close choreography of the fireworks to the music. It's a lot of fun. And by day I teach Math to inner-city kids in Philadelphia, which is also a lot of fun.
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It's because you asked about data. Theories can be pulled from the rectum without any apparent embarrassment, but pulling data from there is embarrassing even here. lol