Bendy light: The maths

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Re: Bendy light: The maths
« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2008, 01:05:25 AM »
You have no idea what you are talking about.  There is A guy I have know for a while, his sister is over in France right now working on The Large Hadron Collider.  It is real so stop making shit up.

So a guy you have know [sic] for a while having a sister who is working on something lends it credibility, does it? How about you show me some primary evidence for its existence instead?

I have no primary evidence for its existence.

That's all you needed to say.
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Re: Bendy light: The maths
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2008, 07:39:32 AM »
And let me guess... I'm a goverment agent? ^^

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« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2008, 08:11:21 AM »
You have no idea what you are talking about.  There is A guy I have know for a while, his sister is over in France right now working on The Large Hadron Collider.  It is real so stop making shit up.

So a guy you have know [sic] for a while having a sister who is working on something lends it credibility, does it? How about you show me some primary evidence for its existence instead?

I have no primary evidence for its existence.

That's all you needed to say.

I can link to unpublished photos or I can say I am in direct contact with a conspirator. 
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« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2008, 08:13:40 AM »
I can link to unpublished photos or I can say I am in direct contact with a conspirator. 

I don't think you understand what is meant by "primary evidence".
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« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2008, 08:15:01 AM »
I can link to unpublished photos or I can say I am in direct contact with a conspirator. 

I don't think you understand what is meant by "primary evidence".
Like I said, I am not in direct contact with a conspirator as she would of told her brother.

Also where is your evidence that particle colliders don't work? 
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« Reply #125 on: August 28, 2008, 08:21:26 AM »
Like I said, I am not in direct contact with a conspirator as she would of told her brother.

I don't think you understand what is meant by "primary evidence".


Also where is your evidence that particle colliders don't work? 

I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims here. I have yet to see a shred of direct evidence that they do work.
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« Reply #126 on: August 28, 2008, 08:24:04 AM »

I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims here. I have yet to see a shred of direct evidence that they do work.

So the world has to revolve around you?  It's not their job to make sure you do research.  Everyone already knows you can't.  All the information you need to know they exist is out there.  Go find it or stop making false claims. 
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« Reply #127 on: August 28, 2008, 08:44:23 AM »
So the world has to revolve around you?  It's not their job to make sure you do research.  Everyone already knows you can't.  All the information you need to know they exist is out there.  Go find it or stop making false claims. 

So you're all out of evidence? Good, then I can stop wasting my time here.
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« Reply #128 on: August 28, 2008, 08:46:57 AM »

So you're all out of evidence? Good, then I can stop wasting my time here.

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« Reply #129 on: August 28, 2008, 09:14:51 AM »
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I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims here. I have yet to see a shred of direct evidence that they do work.

Just saying they dont work is just as well a baseless claim as saying they do. Except for the fact all data accessible implies that in fact they DO work.


If you dont believe they work just talk to a laboratory which has one that you CRAVE to stand right in the ray of particles.
And then you will have your proof by enjoying your own little demise :)

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« Reply #130 on: August 28, 2008, 09:16:40 AM »
If you dont believe they work just talk to a laboratory which has one that you CRAVE to stand right in the ray of particles.
And then you will have your proof by enjoying your own little demise :)

Or they will just shoot me and nobody would know the difference.
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« Reply #131 on: August 29, 2008, 04:45:44 AM »
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I was born in South Africa, now shut the fuck up.


I work at one. So please move this topic to complete bullshit :)



And shooting somebody and standing in the ray of a particle accelerator is quite a differene even at the eyes of a non professional forensic guy ;)

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« Reply #132 on: August 29, 2008, 04:50:06 AM »
And shooting somebody and standing in the ray of a particle accelerator is quite a differene even at the eyes of a non professional forensic guy ;)

And if they pay him three times his usual rate to keep quiet, do you really think the information will leak?
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« Reply #133 on: August 29, 2008, 04:53:34 AM »
And if they pay him three times his usual rate to keep quiet, do you really think the information will leak?

And really hope that you never piss the guy off.  And there is also the question of what happens around retirement time, do you keep paying the guy huge sums in addition to now having to "bribe" his replacement?  Not to mention having to pay people to generate all of that "fake" data that is being analyzed by numerous independent groups.

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« Reply #134 on: August 29, 2008, 05:10:36 AM »
And really hope that you never piss the guy off.  And there is also the question of what happens around retirement time, do you keep paying the guy huge sums in addition to now having to "bribe" his replacement?

No, he just becomes his replacement's first job.

Not to mention having to pay people to generate all of that "fake" data that is being analyzed by numerous independent groups.

Computers don't demand very large salaries these days, I hear.
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« Reply #135 on: August 29, 2008, 05:19:44 AM »
What about cyclotrons and linear accelerators?

A hell of a lot of universities have these. Linear accelerators are used for nuclear medicine. Are people receiving cancer treatment in on the conspiracy as well? What about the doctors treating them? The university students studying physics?

Where does it end?

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« Reply #136 on: August 29, 2008, 07:47:01 AM »
And really hope that you never piss the guy off.  And there is also the question of what happens around retirement time, do you keep paying the guy huge sums in addition to now having to "bribe" his replacement?

No, he just becomes his replacement's first job.

Why yes, that's why we always see those stories of theoretical physicists disappearing all the time. 
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« Reply #137 on: August 31, 2008, 03:11:27 PM »
So how is the bent light theory (BLT hehe) going? How many FE-followers?

I just wanted to remind everyone that if you do believe in BLT, then you also admit that earth looks like a sphere. So if you support BLT, which I think is a great theory btw, be careful with your basic arguments like "earth looks flat, therefore its probably flat".
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« Reply #138 on: August 31, 2008, 09:32:02 PM »
So how is the bent light theory (BLT hehe) going? How many FE-followers?

I just wanted to remind everyone that if you do believe in BLT, then you also admit that earth looks like a sphere. So if you support BLT, which I think is a great theory btw, be careful with your basic arguments like "earth looks flat, therefore its probably flat".

Please don't make any more threads about this. I merged your post into this thread, as there is no point having many threads about the same topic, particularly when your post didn't bring anything new to the discussion.
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Re: Bendy light: The maths
« Reply #139 on: August 31, 2008, 11:09:20 PM »
What is the fundamental property of the UA that accelerates the FE matter, penetrates and then affects light without affecting other matter?

How does one establish what is perfectly flat in this world of bendy light? How can you attempt to measure something on a level plane when there is no agreement on how to determine if the plane is flat?

With bendy light a slightly upwardly curved tunnel would appear dead straight.

I was wondering about a particle beam vs laser test to establish a flat line.

Has anyone come back to answer the Michelson-Morley inferometer yet?


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« Reply #140 on: September 01, 2008, 02:17:30 AM »
What is the fundamental property of the UA that accelerates the FE matter, penetrates and then affects light without affecting other matter?

This is not known.

How does one establish what is perfectly flat in this world of bendy light? How can you attempt to measure something on a level plane when there is no agreement on how to determine if the plane is flat?

The surface of a large body of water is flat in FET.

With bendy light a slightly upwardly curved tunnel would appear dead straight.

Correct.

I was wondering about a particle beam vs laser test to establish a flat line.

A particle beam would measure a geodesic in spacetime, not in space.

Has anyone come back to answer the Michelson-Morley inferometer yet?

No.
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« Reply #141 on: September 01, 2008, 03:26:06 AM »
There should be some reservoirs long enough for this purpose. Since they are normally situated in valleys they should offer a measure of protection from wind.

Although anything involving lasers has inherent problems when using open space. Scattering will be problematic. I'm not sure how much divergence a beam would suffer over a kilometer or two of atmosphere.

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« Reply #142 on: September 01, 2008, 03:27:41 AM »
There should be some reservoirs long enough for this purpose. Since they are normally situated in valleys they should offer a measure of protection from wind.

They are only flat in FET, though. If the Earth is round, they will not be flat.
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« Reply #143 on: September 01, 2008, 06:10:58 AM »
A particle beam would measure a geodesic in spacetime, not in space.

Interresting. How would the laser meassure?
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« Reply #144 on: September 01, 2008, 08:29:45 AM »
Interresting. How would the laser meassure?

In RET, they would measure a geodesic in spacetime. In FET with the EA, they would trace out a parabolic path in space. I am not certain what geometric shape this would correspond to in spacetime.
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« Reply #145 on: September 01, 2008, 10:04:16 AM »
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Tom, isn't this whole upward bendy effect completely incompatible with you own observations?   You have said that you can see children playing on a beach 30 miles away.

Surely your observations falsify this bendy hypotheses?  Or are your own observations now in doubt?

If EA is correct, then it just makes such observations of being able to see past the curvature of the earth nothing more than a curiosity.

Perhaps refraction did it, as I'm so very often told.

perhaps ??? or perhaps it was the pixies and the little elves showing you a magical world over the horizon that only you can see? ::)

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« Reply #146 on: September 01, 2008, 10:30:03 AM »
Interresting. How would the laser meassure?

In RET, they would measure a geodesic in spacetime. In FET with the EA, they would trace out a parabolic path in space. I am not certain what geometric shape this would correspond to in spacetime.

EA? Earth Accelerator?
Speaking of which, does this affect time as well?
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« Reply #147 on: September 01, 2008, 05:19:54 PM »
So are you effectively saying there is no way to observe if something is flat?

Everything should appear curved.


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« Reply #148 on: September 01, 2008, 10:56:19 PM »
Anyway, getting off topic.

How long before we see some refined bendy light theories from the FEs.

Quantifiable predictions. When can we see some?

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« Reply #149 on: September 02, 2008, 04:44:46 AM »
Anyway, getting off topic.

How long before we see some refined bendy light theories from the FEs.

Quantifiable predictions. When can we see some?

Maybe some experimental data that verifies the theory that can be tested?