Antarctica Cup International Yacht Race

...And that map isn't to scale at all. Given the points you connected with your line, you clearly haven't even read the FAQ. And if you did, you certainly didn't understand it.

Quote from: AmatureAstronomer on August 19, 2008, 05:12:35 AM

This is interesting to me as well. While a lot of FE'ers believe that all the airlines are in on the conspiracy, they seem to forget that there are millions of navel vessels that use similar routes, and you'd have to assume they are all in on it too. If you tried to tell a seasoned south Atlantic sailor that it's 13,000 miles from the bottom tip of South America to the bottom tip of South Africa, they'd laugh in your face, especially if you told them you'd hit the side of South America on that route.

Your FE map isnt correct..

Besides that. Whats the biggest motivator on planet? Money.
What makes all those companies that operates on a free market to take a longer path to the destination?
If theyre all paid, the NASA budget is eaten pretty fast Id say.
If theyre fooled, someone should eventually raise an eyebrow on why the distances doesnt fit.

Looks like the scale of the FE map is correct based on the FAQ.  The RE map looks right for where the lines are.

No, but it is a real strong piece of evidence that is difficult to reconcile with a theory that has to bend light a significant amount over a relatively short distance.

There is no evidence to suggest a numerical measurement for the full size of the flat Earth; any listed number is purely speculation and is not worth debating.

What evidence do you have that those boats went around the entire circumference of Antarctica rather than only going for 14,000 miles and calling it quits?

That little image on the website which shows the supposed route doesn't mean anything, since ship captains end up taking different routes than their initial map predicts all the time.

Do you have any ship logs, coordinate logs, or anything like that to show us?

Look at the video posted on the website: http://www.velux5oceans.com/page/RaceVideos/0,,12345,00.html

Notice these quotes:

"There are very few people who have finished this race who started it."

"You're fighting to stay alive. You know that if you make a bad decision that you'll never come back again."

"To do this is suicide."

"The conditions are extremely brutal and extremely dangerous."

"Lifespan in the water is measured in minutes."

Doesn't look like too much initiative to make sure your boat went around the entire circumference of Antarctica to me.

Quote from: interstellarsphere on August 19, 2008, 03:33:07 AM

and look at the EA crap that RoboSteve made up, (that doesnt even work) FE'ers site it now like it was gospel.

Prove that it doesn't work.

Lol, you haven't even worked out the maths yet.  Oh the lights goes wherever it need to to make the earth look round, a wizard directs it there with his magic wand. 

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 19, 2008, 07:40:42 AM

Lol, you haven't even worked out the maths yet.  Oh the lights goes wherever it need to to make the earth look round, a wizard directs it there with his magic wand. 

He claimed that it did not work. I expect him to back up his claim with substantial evidence.

Disallowing debate is a tactic of cowards and liars.

Why is the size unknown, and/or unknowable? No one ever measured it? The conspiracy existed as long as human beings have?

That's not the way science works Steve. You're the one with the theory. You show your work, your peers try to get similar results, and then you stand a chance of having you theory accepted.

What you're doing now is called "speculation" and I'm guessing it will end up going as far as your earth map did in the long term.

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 19, 2008, 07:40:42 AM

Lol, you haven't even worked out the maths yet.  Oh the lights goes wherever it need to to make the earth look round, a wizard directs it there with his magic wand. 

He claimed that it did not work. I expect him to back up his claim with substantial evidence.

Can you prove you aren't a paedophile who rapes 3 kids every day?

I am aware of how science works. Part of it is that one generally does not state that a theory does not work without even waiting for it to reach completion.

There is no evidence to suggest a numerical measurement for the full size of the flat Earth; any listed number is purely speculation and is not worth debating.

I was pointing out that you referred "him" to the FAQ, and that was the number listed.  Based on the FAQ, the lines are correctly labeled and of the correct scale.

Now the accuracy of the information, as you would say, is a different story.

A theory that as not reached completion is not a theory, just a hypothesis.   It only becomes a theory when you can provide strong evidence which supports the claim that "X causes Y" (e.g. the EA causes dramatic bending of light).

That's the trouble with Zetetics.  No evidence is required to back up any claims.  You could say absolutely anything, sit back in your armchair and wait for the Nobel prize to arrive through the post.  Any scepticism is met with even more outlandish claims, with (surprise surprise) no evidence.

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 19, 2008, 07:59:54 AM

Can you prove you aren't a paedophile who rapes 3 kids every day?

I fail to see the relevance of this question.

Quote from: Robosteve on August 19, 2008, 08:53:02 AM

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 19, 2008, 07:59:54 AM

Can you prove you aren't a paedophile who rapes 3 kids every day?

I fail to see the relevance of this question.

So you are not even denying it?  have some shame you paedo bastard. 

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 19, 2008, 11:56:24 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on August 19, 2008, 08:53:02 AM

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 19, 2008, 07:59:54 AM

Can you prove you aren't a paedophile who rapes 3 kids every day?

I fail to see the relevance of this question.

So you are not even denying it?  have some shame you paedo bastard. 

Good, if he don't present some hard solid scientific proof that he isn't, then he is.

Who would have guessed eh?  A sick paedo in our midst! 

Quote from: Rig Navigator on August 19, 2008, 09:06:19 AM

I was pointing out that you referred "him" to the FAQ, and that was the number listed.  Based on the FAQ, the lines are correctly labeled and of the correct scale.

Now the accuracy of the information, as you would say, is a different story.

My reference to the FAQ was in regards to his ignorance of the curved travels of ships and planes.

That's the trouble with Zetetics.  No evidence is required to back up any claims.

Quote from: Moon squirter on August 19, 2008, 09:03:12 AM

That's the trouble with Zetetics.  No evidence is required to back up any claims.

Nah.. I think you got it wrong. Zetetics are sceptics right? That would make them allways asking for evidence.. ?
[/quoteThey are sceptics because they never look for evidence

What you are saying is true but completely irrelevant. He categorically stated that the EA did not work before I had even finished figuring out the mathematics behind it.

Look at Kepler, Newton and Cavendish.  They did lots of math and people on this site consistently say they are wrong.  There are numerous people that say "ignore the science, look out your window to see that the Earth is flat."  Seems to me that observation is at least as important as mathematical modeling.

Quote from: Rig Navigator on August 19, 2008, 11:47:11 PM

Look at Kepler, Newton and Cavendish.  They did lots of math and people on this site consistently say they are wrong.  There are numerous people that say "ignore the science, look out your window to see that the Earth is flat."  Seems to me that observation is at least as important as mathematical modeling.

I am unfamiliar with Cavendish's work, but the other two were wrong. That does not diminish their contributions to physics, it is simply that they lived in a time before we were able to fully understand the problems with their theories. The extent to which their calculations were inaccurate is miniscule when compared with the colossal advances they brought to science.

Kepler was wrong?

I am open to correction here, but did he not say that the planets orbited the sun?

...The planets circle and sun, while the sun circles the North Pole. This results in the retrograde motion of the planets.