Acceleration causes gravitational effect?

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Parsifal

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2008, 10:24:46 AM »
Yes, we are.

Relative to what?

Anything moving at near light speed relative to us. This applies to the RE model, too.
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2008, 10:30:18 AM »
Yes, we are.

Relative to what?

Anything moving at near light speed relative to us. This applies to the RE model, too.

Anything moving at near light speed relative to us would make us not moving at all?

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2008, 10:32:13 AM »
Relative to what?
Relative to a stationary observer outside of our Earth's accelerating reference frame.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2008, 10:35:59 AM »
Relative to what?
Relative to a stationary observer outside of our Earth's accelerating reference frame.

Hmmm...so how fast is the earth moving right now if we have been accelerating for 4.5 billion years?  Using your same reference point.

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2008, 10:37:51 AM »
Very fast, under the speed of light.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2008, 10:44:14 AM »
Interesting.  How about this question using the same reference point how far have we traveled in those 4.5 billion years?

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2008, 10:51:22 AM »
Very far from where we started accelerating.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2008, 10:53:59 AM »
Very far indeed.

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2008, 10:56:31 AM »
Approximately ct.
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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2008, 12:46:21 PM »
Many of you guys know a lot more about these things than I do, thats why Im asking..

Is the Earth causing massive timespace warp or not?
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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2008, 05:35:35 PM »
Ok I spot the obvious flaw in many threads that people come in with "Facts";

'nothing can go faster than light'
'this mathematical formula says'
'physics says this' 'Einstein said'
..... and so on.

Well what do you say? Stop trying to wrap RE theories around FE - It don't fit, there is your problem :)

Mathematics is not real, it was made to fit a model, that model is wrong. Start again with new formulas that fit FE and you'll see they fit.

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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2008, 05:51:19 PM »
Many of you guys know a lot more about these things than I do, thats why Im asking..

Is the Earth causing massive timespace warp or not?

Yes
Traveling at relativistic speeds for the age of the Earth, it's probably that the universe outside our frame of reference has experienced heat death. Time dilation.

Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2008, 05:53:14 PM »
Yes but you can do that with anything, you can fit a model around a theory that earth is shaped like dean martin's face and if people read it, it will make sense. . . .
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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2008, 10:30:19 PM »
you can call us dumb or whatever but you are the guys that think that the world it flat.  I mean really, you honestly think this.  What is holding the atmosphere on this flying flat disc?  I keep asking about simple things like how come the water isn't pushed away from the center and too the sides from all this acceleration and you keep saying that if I was in a car and it was moving the air around me is moving too, so a balloon wouldn't move to the back of the car.  Well this flat earth isn't in a car it is flying through space, if everything is going the same direction at the exact same speed, why do we have meteor showers, they should be moving the same speed in the same direction too. 
Why haven't all the water in the oceans been pushed up against the outsides of the flat earth and we should have a huge dry land mass in the middle. 
If the mass of the moon and sun are different then the mass of the earth, and their mass increase as they speed towards the speed of light, shouldn't the variance cause one to slow down?  Wouldn't there be some sort of visual difference that would occur quite quickly and on a regular basis? 
How do comets work if they appear to come towards us, then away again, and then turn around and come back in a very predictable orbit.  They should be going the same direction as we are and be in the same position. 
How does the space station stay in orbit?  I can go out in my back yard and see it through my telescope all the time.  I have taken photos of it, with the shuttle attached to it and without.  Again, not trying to tick anybody off because this is entertaining, but come on.


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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2008, 03:27:26 AM »
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2008, 06:23:46 AM »
you are the guys that think that the world it flat.  I mean really, you honestly think this.

Naah. I think most FE'ers just choose to stay in that universe, to explore it and have fun..
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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2008, 06:24:20 AM »
Many of you guys know a lot more about these things than I do, thats why Im asking..

Is the Earth causing massive timespace warp or not?

Yes
Traveling at relativistic speeds for the age of the Earth, it's probably that the universe outside our frame of reference has experienced heat death. Time dilation.

Cool..
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Re: Acceleration causes gravitational effect?
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2008, 07:30:19 PM »
ok guys!

Physicists have 'solved' mystery of levitation

meaning, as i see it, that gravity is a quality of matter not a force caused by mass or spin. So the earth may well be flat :-O