Prove me wrong. O wait you can't. Otherwise you would of. The guy in a chair is neither free of forces or falling.
Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 08:21:01 AMProve me wrong. O wait you can't. Otherwise you would of. The guy in a chair is neither free of forces or falling. O wait I did. You just can't read.
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O wait I did. You just can't read.
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Going against physics does not prove your point.
I'm still waiting for an answer, how is a person in free fall when he is not free from forces?
I said the person, on the ground, follows the geodesics indirectly.
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Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 08:38:55 AMGoing against physics does not prove your point.Irony.Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 08:38:55 AM I'm still waiting for an answer, how is a person in free fall when he is not free from forces? I said the person, on the ground, follows the geodesics indirectly.
Quote from: Jack. on August 22, 2008, 09:00:57 AMI said the person, on the ground, follows the geodesics indirectly.At the risk of getting sucked into this quote/flamewar... I think it would be fair to say that a person on the ground would follow a geodesic into the core of the Earth, were it not for the inter-atomic forces preventing him from doing so. As a result, someone on the ground feels a contact force resisting the gravitation of the Earth.Is that what you're both trying to get at, or have I missed the point here?
I think it would be fair to say that a person on the ground would follow a geodesic into the core of the Earth, were it not for the inter-atomic forces preventing him from doing so.
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He is following a geodesic.
Quote from: divito the truthist on August 22, 2008, 12:20:44 PMHe is following a geodesic.My understanding of a geodesic is that it's the path that a particle under no acceleration follows through space-time (curved or otherwise). If we agree that a man on the surface of the Earth feels a force from the ground, then he cannot be following a geodesic any more than a hovering helicopter can be said to be following a geodesic.Is the problem that we have different definitions of what a geodesic is...?
Its the path with no force applied. Acceleration is involved.
Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 12:52:56 PMIts the path with no force applied. Acceleration is involved. I should have specified no external acceleration (=> force), sorry, getting sloppy in my old age.
We are all trying to follow the geodesics into the Earth. However, the Earth, due to mechanical resistance, prevents us from doing this, which results in our continual physical upwards acceleration.
Uh, no, our path along the geodesic is canceled out by our acceleration.
Which is cancel out by said acceleration from gravitation.
No, it is not:Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 05:30:43 PMWhich is cancel out by said acceleration from gravitation.
English, please.
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 22, 2008, 05:43:29 PMNo, it is not:Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 05:30:43 PMWhich is cancel out by said acceleration from gravitation. And how does gravitation cause acceleration?
This is a debate forum. And as far as I've seen, no evidence that the RE can offer seems to be good enough.
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Any chance I get to make fun of your mastery of English is a moment of pure elation.Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 05:44:09 PMQuote from: TheEngineer on August 22, 2008, 05:43:29 PMNo, it is not:Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 05:30:43 PMWhich is cancel out by said acceleration from gravitation. And how does gravitation cause acceleration? Quote from: TheEngineer on August 22, 2008, 05:25:47 PMWe are all trying to follow the geodesics into the Earth. However, the Earth, due to mechanical resistance, prevents us from doing this, which results in our continual physical upwards acceleration.