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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #510 on: August 22, 2008, 08:15:14 PM »
You made a true statement?  That's got to be a first...
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #511 on: August 22, 2008, 08:15:56 PM »
I refuse to believe it.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #512 on: August 22, 2008, 09:12:25 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 12:16:53 PM
Which still couldn't be further from proving your point.  Try again.  How is a guy sitting in a chair free falling?  Keep in mind you need to explain how he is free of forces.  
Read what I said.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #513 on: August 23, 2008, 12:05:46 AM »
Quote from: Jack. on August 22, 2008, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: sokarul on August 22, 2008, 12:16:53 PM
Which still couldn't be further from proving your point.  Try again.  How is a guy sitting in a chair free falling?  Keep in mind you need to explain how he is free of forces.  
Read what I said.

Both of you have no idea what is going on. 
Quote from: Jack. on August 19, 2008, 07:45:20 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 19, 2008, 07:33:35 AM
A person is not in free fall on the surface of the earth. 
Uh, you sure?

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A person sitting on a chair is trying to follow a geodesic (free fall towards the center of the Earth), but the chair applies an external upwards force preventing the person from falling. In this way, general relativity explains the daily experience of gravity on the surface of the Earth not as the downwards pull of a gravitational force, but as the upwards push of external forces which deflect bodies on the Earth's surface from the geodesics they would otherwise follow.
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Quote from: sokarul on August 19, 2008, 07:33:35 AM
A person is not in free fall on the surface of the earth. 

You are stupid.

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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #514 on: August 23, 2008, 12:07:26 AM »
Is this win?
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #515 on: August 23, 2008, 12:10:28 AM »
Quote from: Jack. on August 23, 2008, 12:07:26 AM
Is this win?

Yes, for me.  I have clearly showed how you have no idea what you are talking about.  A guy sitting in a chair is not in free fall. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #516 on: August 23, 2008, 12:12:39 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 22, 2008, 08:15:14 PM
You made a true statement?  That's got to be a first...
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #517 on: August 23, 2008, 12:14:05 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 12:10:28 AM
Yes, for me.  I have clearly showed how you have no idea what you are talking about.  A guy sitting in a chair is not in free fall. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #518 on: August 23, 2008, 12:14:11 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 12:12:39 AM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 22, 2008, 08:15:14 PM
You made a true statement?  That's got to be a first...

Its actually quite funny.  You know so little you didn't even know what you said is the same thing as what I had just said.  
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #519 on: August 23, 2008, 12:16:40 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 12:14:11 AM
Its actually quite funny.  You know so little you didn't even know what you said is the same thing as what I had just said. 
If I know so little, how did I say something that was correct?
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #520 on: August 23, 2008, 05:46:50 AM »
I wonder what it's like to be sokarul, when everyone else is wrong and he's the only one who is right.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #521 on: August 23, 2008, 07:52:41 AM »
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #522 on: August 23, 2008, 08:42:21 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on August 23, 2008, 05:46:50 AM
I wonder what it's like to be sokarul, when everyone else is wrong and he's the only one who is right.
That is quite possibly the greatest thing I have heard, ever.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #523 on: August 23, 2008, 08:49:01 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 12:16:40 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 12:14:11 AM
Its actually quite funny.  You know so little you didn't even know what you said is the same thing as what I had just said. 
If I know so little, how did I say something that was correct?

Because you were spoon fed it and didn't actually know what it meant. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #524 on: August 23, 2008, 08:55:12 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on August 23, 2008, 05:46:50 AM
I wonder what it's like to be sokarul, when everyone else is wrong and he's the only one who is right.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #525 on: August 23, 2008, 08:56:51 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 12:16:40 AM
If I know so little, how did I say something that was correct?

Because you were spoon fed it and didn't actually know what it meant. 

This has to be the single most ironic statement I've seen on this site yet.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #526 on: August 23, 2008, 08:59:00 AM »
Of course, he's a perpetual engine of ironies.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #527 on: August 23, 2008, 09:08:41 AM »
Such leg humpers. 

I know what I am talking about.  Thats why I don't make stupid claims like "A guy sitting in a chair is in free fall."
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #528 on: August 23, 2008, 09:11:48 AM »
Like this?
Quote from: sokarul on March 13, 2007, 12:35:33 PM
Or those forces that cause water to spin opposite directs, in toilets   
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #529 on: August 23, 2008, 09:15:41 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 09:11:48 AM
Like this?
Quote from: sokarul on March 13, 2007, 12:35:33 PM
Or those forces that cause water to spin opposite directs, in toilets   


Yes like that.  Lots of people are spoon fed myths. 
Its funny reading the posts under that one.  You still answer questions with questions. 
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #530 on: August 23, 2008, 09:18:50 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 09:15:41 AM
Yes like that.  Lots of people are spoon fed myths. 
So you admit that your post was ironic?  That is very big of you.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #531 on: August 23, 2008, 09:21:35 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 23, 2008, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 09:15:41 AM
Yes like that.  Lots of people are spoon fed myths. 
So you admit that your post was ironic?  That is very big of you.
It's only ironic if its true so...
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #532 on: August 23, 2008, 09:29:34 AM »
Quote from: Jack. on August 23, 2008, 08:59:00 AM
Of course, he's a perpetual engine of ironies.

He's like a perfect storm of ironies.

He even did it again after I posted that:
Quote from: sokarul on August 23, 2008, 09:08:41 AM
I know what I am talking about.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #533 on: August 23, 2008, 05:35:32 PM »
Here are the correct figures for the FE model of an objects "terminal Velocity"

t   Velocity Of Object   Acceleration
1   1.925523968   1.925523968
2   12.52899752   6.264498762
3   17.14577418   5.71525806
4   39.068657   9.76716425

So as you can see it still takes longer to reach an acceleration of 9.81/s2, twice as long actually and the objects velocity is almost twice that of the object in the RE model.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #534 on: August 23, 2008, 05:38:23 PM »
Acceleration should go down with respect to time.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #535 on: August 23, 2008, 05:39:13 PM »
Quote from: Robbyj on August 23, 2008, 05:38:23 PM
Acceleration should go down with respect to time.
nope
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #536 on: August 23, 2008, 05:41:59 PM »
Here we go again...
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #537 on: August 23, 2008, 05:47:42 PM »
Quote from: Robbyj on August 23, 2008, 05:41:59 PM
Here we go again...
My bad but an extra number in excel when it ran so here are the numbers

Δt   Velocity Of Object   Acceleration
1   1.925523968   1.925523968
2   12.52899752   6.264498762
3   27.07947648   9.026492161
4   38.81887951   9.704719877
5   48.9886285   9.7977257
6   58.85158707   9.808597845
7   68.66888146   9.809840209
8   78.47985436   9.809981795
9   88.28998133   9.809997926
10   98.09999764   9.809999764
11   107.9099997   9.809999973
12   117.72                9.809999997
13          127.53                9.81

So you can still see the predictions of the FE model still differ from the RE model so that should be easy to test
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #538 on: August 23, 2008, 05:50:24 PM »
To save me from digging through this argument, can someone post the equivalent equations for RE and FE and I'll get Mathematica to make some pretty graphs for everyone.
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Re: Looking for an intelligent argument.
« Reply #539 on: August 23, 2008, 05:55:33 PM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 21, 2008, 05:28:59 AM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 20, 2008, 12:29:05 AM
Relative to the Earth?  When your upwards acceleration equals the acceleration of the Earth.

But, I've said this already.
Made this using LaTex and I forgot to resize the page so sorry

The only mistake on this page is that you need to take the velocity of the object into account when calculating the FE model. So instead of having Vair we should have the (Vair-Vobject) and the acceleration of the object must equal the accleration of the earth so the aceleration needs to be 9.81 obviously
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