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Physics, where's the force?

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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2008, 01:40:34 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:47:59 PM
Really?  How so? 

Let me ask you this:

A person traveling at .5c will see the watch on his wrist tick at what speed:  Normal, slow or fast?
and the person from any outside inertial FoR will see what?
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2008, 05:13:00 AM »
This is all hearsay anyway as relative physics is just made up by people who want to sound clever. Newtonian physics is the only one that actually works.
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2008, 05:17:49 AM »
Quote from: datascat on August 16, 2008, 05:13:00 AM
This is all hearsay anyway as relative physics is just made up by people who want to sound clever. Newtonian physics is the only one that actually works.

You, sir, have just been sig'd.
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2008, 09:42:48 AM »
I'm Honored!
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2008, 10:16:52 AM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 01:40:34 AM
and the person from any outside inertial FoR will see what?
Please answer my question.
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2008, 03:01:45 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 10:16:52 AM
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 01:40:34 AM
and the person from any outside inertial FoR will see what?
Please answer my question.
A person in proper time will see his watch tick at normal speed, now how would that person watch tick compared to any other FoR
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2008, 03:24:36 PM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 03:01:45 PM
A person in proper time will see his watch tick at normal speed
Exactly.  I am glad you have seen your error.

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now how would that person watch tick compared to any other FoR
Differently. 
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2008, 04:02:52 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 03:01:45 PM
A person in proper time will see his watch tick at normal speed
Exactly.  I am glad you have seen your error.

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now how would that person watch tick compared to any other FoR
Differently. 
When did I ever claim that a watch in proper time would not tick normal?

so if the watch will tick differently then how is the acceleration measured to be the same as in the proper FoR?
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2008, 04:24:38 PM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 04:02:52 PM
When did I ever claim that a watch in proper time would not tick normal?
Applied to acceleration:
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
I fail to see why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.  The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.
Uh, no

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so if the watch will tick differently then how is the acceleration measured to be the same as in the proper FoR?
Who said it would?
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2008, 04:29:08 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 04:02:52 PM
When did I ever claim that a watch in proper time would not tick normal?
Applied to acceleration:
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
I fail to see why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.  The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.
Uh, no

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so if the watch will tick differently then how is the acceleration measured to be the same as in the proper FoR?
Who said it would?
you did.

How Is acceleration measured?
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #100 on: August 16, 2008, 04:49:53 PM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
you did.
Hmm, that's strange, I don't remember doing such a thing.  Perhaps you can show me where I did so.


I am still waiting for you to reconcile this:
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
I fail to see why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.  The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.
Uh, no
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #101 on: August 16, 2008, 04:58:07 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
you did.
Hmm, that's strange, I don't remember doing such a thing.  Perhaps you can show me where I did so.


I am still waiting for you to reconcile this:
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
I fail to see why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.  The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.
Uh, no
a=a0-a1
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #102 on: August 16, 2008, 05:03:45 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
you did.
Hmm, that's strange, I don't remember doing such a thing.  Perhaps you can show me where I did so.


I am still waiting for you to reconcile this:
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
I fail to see why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.  The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.
Uh, no
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #103 on: August 16, 2008, 05:45:44 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
you did.
Hmm, that's strange, I don't remember doing such a thing.  Perhaps you can show me where I did so.


I am still waiting for you to reconcile this:
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
I fail to see why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.  The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.
Uh, no
SO now that I have shown that every acceleration may not always be the same for all observers lwt us assume that the acceleration of the observer is zero. he will then track the acceleration of the body like this:
alpha=1/{1-(v/c)2}
 so start at v=9.8m/s and tell me what happens to the acceleration as it approaches the speed of light
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #104 on: August 16, 2008, 06:02:23 PM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 05:45:44 PM
SO now that I have shown that every acceleration may not always be the same for all observers
Sorry, when was that an issue?

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so start at v=9.8m/s and tell me what happens to the acceleration as it approaches the speed of light
It decreases.  But I've said that already. 

You really need to think these arguments out better.  All you are doing is making yourself out to be an idiot.
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #105 on: August 16, 2008, 06:09:21 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
The proper acceleration is 9.8m/s^2.  For everyone.

And when have you said that acceleration decreases
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #106 on: August 16, 2008, 09:12:22 PM »
In your very own thread:
Quote from: TheEngineer on June 28, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
The acceleration decreases over time.

It must suck for you to be proven an idiot all the time.
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #107 on: August 16, 2008, 09:19:04 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 09:12:22 PM
In your very own thread:
Quote from: TheEngineer on June 28, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
The acceleration decreases over time.

It must suck for you to be proven an idiot all the time.
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 16, 2008, 09:12:22 PM
In your very own thread:
Quote from: TheEngineer on June 28, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
The acceleration decreases over time.

It must suck for you to be proven an idiot all the time.
So from 2 months ago you found a comment you made that may have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, that is your proof?


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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #108 on: August 16, 2008, 09:20:53 PM »
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 16, 2008, 09:19:04 PM
So from 2 months ago you found a comment you made that may have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, that is your proof?
It has everything to do with the topic at hand.   :-\
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #109 on: August 16, 2008, 11:57:20 PM »
So we started at 9.8m/s, what are we at now?
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Re: Physics, where's the force?
« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2008, 11:58:11 PM »
Less than the speed of light.
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