Right...that is the point.
Because the acceleration is...proper...
You don't actually know what proper means, do you?
So that is a 'no', then?
Where does this Univeral Acceleration Force come from?
So your belief is that a0 is always equal to a?
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 03:41:52 PMSo your belief is that a0 is always equal to a?Proper anything is always equal to the quantity measured in the proper frame.
The proper acceleration will always be the acceleration measured in the proper frame. That is about as clear as it can get. Do you need me to slow down so you can catch up?
It answers it perfectly.
No. Like I said, you don't know what the definition of proper is.
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 04:01:24 PMNo. Like I said, you don't know what the definition of proper is.I know what proper is perfectly fine, you are the one making the claim that proper acceleration will be the same for all observers
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 04:12:31 PMQuote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 04:01:24 PMNo. Like I said, you don't know what the definition of proper is.I know what proper is perfectly fine, you are the one making the claim that proper acceleration will be the same for all observersHe's just going to keep avoiding the issue with semantics no matter how you phrase it, it will never be "answered" because they don't know
Why justify an illegitimate attack with a legitimate response?
Since V in your equation is based upon the acceleration of the earth what velocity (acceleration) should we use for and FoR
I know what proper is perfectly fine, you are the one making the claim that proper acceleration will be the same for all observers
That is what I am trying to show, that when it comes down to it he does not as much as people give him credit for
Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 04:12:31 PMI know what proper is perfectly fine, you are the one making the claim that proper acceleration will be the same for all observersI have not claimed that at all. Not even once. You are the one having the problem understanding what proper means.Quote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 04:47:24 PMThat is what I am trying to show, that when it comes down to it he does not as much as people give him credit forAnd in the end, all you are accomplishing is making yourself out to be an idiot. Talk about a plan blowing up in your face...
Quote from: TheEngineer on August 15, 2008, 03:46:51 PMQuote from: cbarnett97 on August 15, 2008, 03:41:52 PMSo your belief is that a0 is always equal to a?Proper anything is always equal to the quantity measured in the proper frame.No word games here, I will ask a simple question:Do you believe that a0 is always equal to a
He isn't saying that a0=a in all reference frames. You can use proper acceleration to obtain observed acceleration in any reference frame given the correct variables.
I would take that as a no.