The Earth is indeed a sphere.

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The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« on: August 15, 2008, 03:28:35 AM »
 In The FAQ of this forum, it asserts that all photos showing the Earth as round are a conspiracy by NASA. Then as to the reasoning for said conspiracy, the FAQ claims not to know.
         Well NASA isnt the only ones invovled in space travel now adays as it is also becoming privatized and no one whose been in space has reported the Earth as flat, none of the millionaires who paid to go into space, nor the pilots of Spaceship1, the first private craft to enter orbit around the Earth.
Also I have seen some pictures on here that seem to mock gravity, saying "MASS + magic = gravity" with illustrations of the Earth. The reasoning behind why mass gives gravity would only seem like magic to someone who doesnt understand physics, but yes, you at home can duplicate the effects of gravityin your own little experiment. First, get a large peice of cloth or fabirc or a out stretched bed sheet and if necessary have someone hold it out. then drop say a baseball or ome such into it. The baseball will sink, creating a dip in the fabric. now if you drop something lighter then mass, onto the fabric say a tennis of golf ball, it will be attracted toward the dip   and if it gets too close it will sink into it hitting the baseball. This is how gravity works. The baseball represents a planet and the sheet represents the fabric of space. The more massive the object, the deeper the dip, and thus the widr its area of effect will be. If you did the same sheet exeperiment but say dropped a bowling ball in, the dip would be much dipper and the area it spreads of the sheet much wider.

Another thing, if the Earth was flat we would all see the same night sky. But in the Northern hemisphere we can see Polaris, the North Star. They how ever, can not see this in the Southern Hemipshere.
The modern day proponents of flat Earth all stem from a series of experiments and books written by people who did curvature tests on lakes. These experiments how ever have been refuted many times because they had errors in them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment
Furthermore, measurng the curvature of something is kind of hard if your on the same angular plane.
Oh and for those who think the flat Earth idea is biblical, it is not.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c034.html
Bible Verses specifically calling the Earth spherical:
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c015.html


Also as a former member of the US Navy, I can tell you out on the ocean, looking on the horizon, it appears circular.
Also the notion that NASA is engagd in a conspiracy to conceal a flat Earth is ridiculous, but even more so is the fact that no one can come up with a motive for doing so.
Furthermore, the toughted author, "Samuel Birley Rowbotham "
Also made other assertios, such as that the Sun, stars moons and planets were all only a few hundred miles above the Earth. This , is obviously also untrue as our space probes which travel at about 25,000 MPH take years to reach some of the planets.
Furhtermore, this man lived 1816-1884 and had no access to the knowledge we have today.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 03:32:39 AM »
Preach it, Brother.

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 03:47:53 AM »
Furhtermore, this man lived 1816-1884 and had no access to the knowledge we have today.

I am sick of seeing this argument. When did Einstein come up with SR? A few years after. And furthermore, when did Newton write his theories? It soes not matter when the book was written.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 03:49:46 AM »
Why not answer the rest of thread, rather than the only bit you can nitpick?

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 03:51:44 AM »
Why not answer the rest of thread, rather than the only bit you can nitpick?
and in what year were all of Einsteins theories proven?
Only 2 things are infinite the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the former.

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 03:53:35 AM »
Why not answer the rest of thread, rather than the only bit you can nitpick?

Because they have all been discussed in other threads (indeed, are being discussed).
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 03:55:06 AM »


Because they have all been discussed in other threads (indeed, are being discussed).
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Re: The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 03:56:27 AM »
Neeman,
Not always but sometimes it does matter. Who are you going to trust more? A doctor who learned medicine from a 16th century text, or a modern doctor who went to medical school in the 21st century? Also if you read the post that was just one in a myriad of arguments I posted.
Astronomy is a fast moving field, new data is coming in all the time.

The reason Newton and Einsteins theories have held up is becase they passed the test of time and SCIENTIFIC scrutiny Something Flat Earth hasnt. It says alot about a theory when the only way you can explain  evidence to the contrary is as a giant conspiracy. I just finished reading another post where someone basicly says Satellites only appear to orbit the  Earth because NASA made them to give the illusion of doing so.
That is bullocks, and not how real science works.
In real science, it is up to the person hypothsizing the theory to prove it, not the rest of the world to disprove it.

As far as being discussed in the oher threads as you so put it, I ave been reading them. And for the most part FEs seem to dismiss all the real scientific evidence as part of some conspiracy.

NASA photos? Conspiracy. Satellites? Fake polar orbit. heh.





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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 04:01:33 AM »
What, I am legally bound to answer every question a RE'er asks of me?


I answered that point alone simply because it is a very common but completely stupid point that is often raised by RE'ers. At least the other questions merit discussion- the age of any given text does not. We get to hear about Newton all the time, and he did his major work in the late 1600s.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 04:05:40 AM »
"the age of any given text does not. "

I bet you'd sing a different tune if you went in for surgery and the doctor told you the textbook he learned from wasfrom the 1800s.

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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 04:47:15 AM »
In The FAQ of this forum, it asserts that all photos showing the Earth as round are a conspiracy by NASA. Then as to the reasoning for said conspiracy, the FAQ claims not to know.
         Well NASA isnt the only ones invovled in space travel now adays as it is also becoming privatized and no one whose been in space has reported the Earth as flat, none of the millionaires who paid to go into space, nor the pilots of Spaceship1, the first private craft to enter orbit around the Earth.
And so the conspiracy grows.

Also I have seen some pictures on here that seem to mock gravity, saying "MASS + magic = gravity" with illustrations of the Earth. The reasoning behind why mass gives gravity would only seem like magic to someone who doesnt understand physics, but yes, you at home can duplicate the effects of gravityin your own little experiment. First, get a large peice of cloth or fabirc or a out stretched bed sheet and if necessary have someone hold it out. then drop say a baseball or ome such into it. The baseball will sink, creating a dip in the fabric. now if you drop something lighter then mass, onto the fabric say a tennis of golf ball, it will be attracted toward the dip   and if it gets too close it will sink into it hitting the baseball. This is how gravity works. The baseball represents a planet and the sheet represents the fabric of space. The more massive the object, the deeper the dip, and thus the widr its area of effect will be. If you did the same sheet exeperiment but say dropped a bowling ball in, the dip would be much dipper and the area it spreads of the sheet much wider.
How do you know the "experiment" you performed illustrates the effects of gravity? How do you know gravity works that way? What's an experiment that you can perform that shows it is gravity keep us attached to the surface of the earth?

Another thing, if the Earth was flat we would all see the same night sky.
Well, no. We don't all see the same cloud formations as they go across the sky or a plane as it flies overhead. Our field of view is not all encompassing. The stars are higher up than that, of course, but for the same reasons, we don't all see the same stars.

Furthermore, measurng the curvature of something is kind of hard if your on the same angular plane.
Particularly if it's not really curved. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Also as a former member of the US Navy, I can tell you out on the ocean, looking on the horizon, it appears circular.
Appears flat to me.

Also the notion that NASA is engagd in a conspiracy to conceal a flat Earth is ridiculous, but even more so is the fact that no one can come up with a motive for doing so.
Why?

Furthermore, the toughted author, "Samuel Birley Rowbotham "
Also made other assertios, such as that the Sun, stars moons and planets were all only a few hundred miles above the Earth. This , is obviously also untrue as our space probes which travel at about 25,000 MPH take years to reach some of the planets.

Sent by NASA who are engaged in the conspiracy.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 04:57:10 AM »
In The FAQ of this forum, it asserts that all photos showing the Earth as round are a conspiracy by NASA. Then as to the reasoning for said conspiracy, the FAQ claims not to know.
         Well NASA isnt the only ones invovled in space travel now adays as it is also becoming privatized and no one whose been in space has reported the Earth as flat, none of the millionaires who paid to go into space, nor the pilots of Spaceship1, the first private craft to enter orbit around the Earth.
And so the conspiracy grows.

Also I have seen some pictures on here that seem to mock gravity, saying "MASS + magic = gravity" with illustrations of the Earth. The reasoning behind why mass gives gravity would only seem like magic to someone who doesnt understand physics, but yes, you at home can duplicate the effects of gravityin your own little experiment. First, get a large peice of cloth or fabirc or a out stretched bed sheet and if necessary have someone hold it out. then drop say a baseball or ome such into it. The baseball will sink, creating a dip in the fabric. now if you drop something lighter then mass, onto the fabric say a tennis of golf ball, it will be attracted toward the dip   and if it gets too close it will sink into it hitting the baseball. This is how gravity works. The baseball represents a planet and the sheet represents the fabric of space. The more massive the object, the deeper the dip, and thus the widr its area of effect will be. If you did the same sheet exeperiment but say dropped a bowling ball in, the dip would be much dipper and the area it spreads of the sheet much wider.
How do you know the "experiment" you performed illustrates the effects of gravity? How do you know gravity works that way? What's an experiment that you can perform that shows it is gravity keep us attached to the surface of the earth?

Another thing, if the Earth was flat we would all see the same night sky.
Well, no. We don't all see the same cloud formations as they go across the sky or a plane as it flies overhead. Our field of view is not all encompassing. The stars are higher up than that, of course, but for the same reasons, we don't all see the same stars.

Furthermore, measurng the curvature of something is kind of hard if your on the same angular plane.
Particularly if it's not really curved. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Also as a former member of the US Navy, I can tell you out on the ocean, looking on the horizon, it appears circular.
Appears flat to me.

Also the notion that NASA is engagd in a conspiracy to conceal a flat Earth is ridiculous, but even more so is the fact that no one can come up with a motive for doing so.
Why?

Furthermore, the toughted author, "Samuel Birley Rowbotham "
Also made other assertios, such as that the Sun, stars moons and planets were all only a few hundred miles above the Earth. This , is obviously also untrue as our space probes which travel at about 25,000 MPH take years to reach some of the planets.

Sent by NASA who are engaged in the conspiracy.


The conspiracy grows? So now every private space organization, every space exploration agency of every nation is invovled in the conspiracy? Get real.
Instead of spinning the conspiracy BS, how about sme real evidence to try and counter?  I have seen this on here constantly, in the face of strong evidence you cry conspiracy.

Also, clouds are much closer to the surface of the Earth, the stars are much much much farther away.
Furthermore, given the speed of light at 186,000 miles per hour versus how long it takes light from stars to reach us, you can calclate the distances.
Also as massive as the stars are, because all the stars are are suns like our own (Our sun being a G class star) if they were really only a few hundred miles above the Earth, theyd appear ALOT larger and brighter.  Our Sun, Our Star (whos astronomical name is SOL) is so massive if it were hollow it could hold a million Earth's
The stars are light years away, and thus the fact that the North and South halves of the Earth do not see the same stars proves Earth is round.
As far as gravity, the basis of how gravity works is used to make almost every astronomical calculation pertaining to objects moving in space, and its effects on other objects, and they turn out to be correct, balidating our ndrstanding of gravity. That is why more mass = stronger gravity and is evident as planets like Jupiter, much more massive in Earth and also have much stronger gravity (jupiter's even attracting comet Shoemaker levy 9, causing it to collide with Jupiter in the 90s)

Also I find it funny about the lack of motive because a conspiracy of global proportion such as that would not be under taken without a reason for doing so.

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 05:14:32 AM »
"the age of any given text does not. "

I bet you'd sing a different tune if you went in for surgery and the doctor told you the textbook he learned from wasfrom the 1800s.

I see. Well, from now, I assume you will never, ever mention any Newtonian sicence in this forum, because it is much older than Robotham's work, and to do so would make you a hypocrite.


Your example misses the point. If said text book were 100% accurate, it still wouldn't matter how old it is.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 05:19:26 AM »
"the age of any given text does not. "

I bet you'd sing a different tune if you went in for surgery and the doctor told you the textbook he learned from wasfrom the 1800s.

I see. Well, from now, I assume you will never, ever mention any Newtonian sicence in this forum, because it is much older than Robotham's work, and to do so would make you a hypocrite.


Your example misses the point. If said text book were 100% accurate, it still wouldn't matter how old it is.
*sigh* If you were paying attneon I told you ealier the reason newton and einstein have held up is because they stood the test of time, and of science, and their theories could be proven  over and ver again, where as Rowbotham could not. None of what he wrote will hold up to modern day scientific scrutiny
I guess you werent paying attention to that part.
Oh btw, Newton, Einstien, both RE's (as well as most of the world)

NASA photos and astronaut estimony and satellite photos should be enough to prove Earth is round.
But most of the world knew even before NASA came into existence.

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 06:11:09 AM »
*sigh* If you were paying attneon I told you ealier the reason newton and einstein have held up is because they stood the test of time, and of science, and their theories could be proven  over and ver again, where as Rowbotham could not. None of what he wrote will hold up to modern day scientific scrutiny
I guess you werent paying attention to that part.

This was not in your original post, which is what I took issue with. And what I said still holds true for your example.


So what I said remains true: both points were stupid. Thanks.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2008, 06:18:19 AM »
*sigh* If you were paying attneon I told you ealier the reason newton and einstein have held up is because they stood the test of time, and of science, and their theories could be proven  over and ver again, where as Rowbotham could not. None of what he wrote will hold up to modern day scientific scrutiny
I guess you werent paying attention to that part.

This was not in your original post, which is what I took issue with. And what I said still holds true for your example.
No it doesnt hold true, given all the mathematical variables i just presented.

The stars being that far away (light years, 3 trillion miles per ligh year) would all be visible all over the Earth if the earth were flat.
Clouds arent trillion miles away.


So what I said remains true: both points were stupid. Thanks.

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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2008, 06:28:15 AM »
The conspiracy grows? So now every private space organization, every space exploration agency of every nation is invovled in the conspiracy? Get real.
How can you prove to me this is not real?

Also, clouds are much closer to the surface of the Earth, the stars are much much much farther away.
Possibly not as far as you think.

Furthermore, given the speed of light at 186,000 miles per hour versus how long it takes light from stars to reach us, you can calclate the distances.
How can you possibly know how long light has taken to reach us? Thereby how can you calculate the distance?
Also as massive as the stars are, because all the stars are are suns like our own (Our sun being a G class star) if they were really only a few hundred miles above the Earth, theyd appear ALOT larger and brighter.  Our Sun, Our Star (whos astronomical name is SOL) is so massive if it were hollow it could hold a million Earth's
How do you know this to be true?

The stars are light years away, and thus the fact that the North and South halves of the Earth do not see the same stars proves Earth is round.
You are basing all this on the supposition that stars are as far away as you think they are.
As far as gravity, the basis of how gravity works is used to make almost every astronomical calculation pertaining to objects moving in space, and its effects on other objects, and they turn out to be correct, balidating our ndrstanding of gravity. That is why more mass = stronger gravity and is evident as planets like Jupiter, much more massive in Earth and also have much stronger gravity (jupiter's even attracting comet Shoemaker levy 9, causing it to collide with Jupiter in the 90s)
The problem with all this is that you have witnessed none of it first hand. Thereby your opinion doesn't actually hold any validity. If all the things you base the "proof" of gravity on are things that have been faked by NASA, then that doesn't make them true.

Also I find it funny about the lack of motive because a conspiracy of global proportion such as that would not be under taken without a reason for doing so.
Just because we don't know the motive, doesn't mean a conspiracy is not taking place.
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2008, 06:31:04 AM »
god how dumb are you?  do you try to avoid every question because you dont know shit?  well thats obvious, you think the earth is flat!  cmon neeman id like to see your response...  that dumbass thought the sun was a few hundred miles away!  none of his shit holds up anymore man, get with the times!  all of his stupid theories, done.  and yet you are still in denial that the earth is round.  everyone thats ever been in space is in on the conspiracy?  i really doubt if there was a conspiracy they would let anybody in space! 

its simple.  the earth is ROUND

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2008, 06:35:13 AM »
The conspiracy grows? So now every private space organization, every space exploration agency of every nation is invovled in the conspiracy? Get real.
How can you prove to me this is not real?

Also, clouds are much closer to the surface of the Earth, the stars are much much much farther away.
Possibly not as far as you think.

Furthermore, given the speed of light at 186,000 miles per hour versus how long it takes light from stars to reach us, you can calclate the distances.
How can you possibly know how long light has taken to reach us? Thereby how can you calculate the distance?
Also as massive as the stars are, because all the stars are are suns like our own (Our sun being a G class star) if they were really only a few hundred miles above the Earth, theyd appear ALOT larger and brighter.  Our Sun, Our Star (whos astronomical name is SOL) is so massive if it were hollow it could hold a million Earth's
How do you know this to be true?

The stars are light years away, and thus the fact that the North and South halves of the Earth do not see the same stars proves Earth is round.
You are basing all this on the supposition that stars are as far away as you think they are.
As far as gravity, the basis of how gravity works is used to make almost every astronomical calculation pertaining to objects moving in space, and its effects on other objects, and they turn out to be correct, balidating our ndrstanding of gravity. That is why more mass = stronger gravity and is evident as planets like Jupiter, much more massive in Earth and also have much stronger gravity (jupiter's even attracting comet Shoemaker levy 9, causing it to collide with Jupiter in the 90s)
The problem with all this is that you have witnessed none of it first hand. Thereby your opinion doesn't actually hold any validity. If all the things you base the "proof" of gravity on are things that have been faked by NASA, then that doesn't make them true.

Also I find it funny about the lack of motive because a conspiracy of global proportion such as that would not be under taken without a reason for doing so.
Just because we don't know the motive, doesn't mean a conspiracy is not taking place.

I know because unlike any of your theoires I can prove mine. I can look at the sun, analyze the spectrum, establish its composiion relative to other stars, along with its mass and proe its a G class star.

I can observe other stars, and glean the same knowledge. as far as the speed of light, during the apollo missions a mirror was setup on the moon and thena laser then fired at said mirror and the speed was emasured but the speed of light has been calculated even before then
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html

"The conspiracy grows? So now every private space organization, every space exploration agency of every nation is invovled in the conspiracy? Get real.
How can you prove to me this is not real?"
Your the proponents of FE. In order to prove the Earth is flat, the ownus is on you to prove their is a conspiracy, not us to prove otherwise.

In true science..the way the rest of he world out of FE operates- te proponent of the theory is the one who has to do the proving using the scientific method.
and as far as distancs, one the speed of light is known calculating distance is a synch.
especially since its know it takes the suns lightclose to 8 inutes to reach Earth.

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2008, 06:36:42 AM »
god how dumb are you? 

You tell us. Unless it was a rhetorical question.


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do you try to avoid every question because you dont know shit? 

We only avoid questions which have been asked thousands of times before.

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well thats obvious, you think the earth is flat! 

This is the flat earth society, what else were you expecting?

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that dumbass thought the sun was a few hundred miles away!

Nice ad hominem. And how do you know the sun isnt a few hundred miles away?


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  none of his shit holds up anymore man, get with the times! 

No.

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everyone thats ever been in space is in on the conspiracy?
 

Yes. Why is that so hard to understand?

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its simple.  the earth is ROUND

Its simple. The earth is FLAT. Hey look, putting it in caps makes it true!

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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2008, 06:39:14 AM »
god how dumb are you? 

You tell us. Unless it was a rhetorical question.


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do you try to avoid every question because you dont know shit? 

We only avoid questions which have been asked thousands of times before.

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well thats obvious, you think the earth is flat! 

This is the flat earth society, what else were you expecting?

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that dumbass thought the sun was a few hundred miles away!

Nice ad hominem. And how do you know the sun isnt a few hundred miles away?


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  none of his shit holds up anymore man, get with the times! 

No.

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everyone thats ever been in space is in on the conspiracy?
 

Yes. Why is that so hard to understand?

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its simple.  the earth is ROUND

Its simple. The earth is FLAT. Hey look, putting it in caps makes it true!


well given that space craft have shown it takes the suns light 8 minutes to reach earth and the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second...well you do the Math, the sun is definitely more then a few hundred miles away :)

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2008, 07:07:39 AM »
I have to say I am dumbfounded at the stupidity of this whole topic.  Have any of you ever heard of math and physics?  Math proves physics.  You people must of flunked math becuase you would understand how universal it is. Do you think a flat earth would have a magnetic field? So I'm geussing you people think the moon is flat too?  Even though we can see how round it is.  How we see one side of the moon and the other side of the round earth see the othere side of the  round spinning moon?   How do you think the seasons work?     You think the sun is flat too?  I have to say this is the most rediculous society i have ever heard of.  Society of idiots.  Your lucky you live in the modern world.  Natural selection would have eliminated your dumb asses a long time ago.  The weak and stupid always get eaten first.

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2008, 07:09:37 AM »
Have any of you ever heard of math and physics?

No, please explain what they are.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2008, 07:13:16 AM »
I have to say I am dumbfounded at the stupidity of this whole topic.  Have any of you ever heard of math and physics?  Math proves physics.  You people must of flunked math becuase you would understand how universal it is. Do you think a flat earth would have a magnetic field? So I'm geussing you people think the moon is flat too?  Even though we can see how round it is.  How we see one side of the moon and the other side of the round earth see the othere side of the  round spinning moon?   How do you think the seasons work?     You think the sun is flat too?  I have to say this is the most rediculous society i have ever heard of.  Society of idiots.  Your lucky you live in the modern world.  Natural selection would have eliminated your dumb asses a long time ago.  The weak and stupid always get eaten first.

Please, calm down. Don't eat anyone.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2008, 07:28:15 AM »
well given that space craft have shown it takes the suns light 8 minutes to reach earth

When did they do this?

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Re: The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2008, 07:39:33 AM »
As far as the speed of light, during the apollo missions a mirror was setup on the moon and thena laser then fired at said mirror and the speed was emasured but the speed of light has been calculated even before then
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html
... and as far as distancs, one the speed of light is known calculating distance is a synch.
especially since its know it takes the suns lightclose to 8 inutes to reach Earth.
I never disputed what the speed of light was. Just that if you have a formula with 3 variables, being time x speed of light = distance, and you only know one of those variables, that being speed of light, you cannot tell me how far away a star is. Or the sun for that matter. And if the moon landings were faked, then there is no mirror on the surface of it, and you cannot use it to give a definitive distance that the moon is from the earth.

Your the proponents of FE. In order to prove the Earth is flat, the ownus is on you to prove their is a conspiracy, not us to prove otherwise.

I think I see what the actual problem is here. You thought you were going to be the first one in here to post your theories, and disprove FET. You didn't read the FAQ which would have pointed out that many have come before you and said the same things you have, and you didn't bother searching to see if that might have been the case. Your also seem to have a deep seated need to be right, and for others to agree with you. Do you berate those of other religions, telling them where they have gone wrong.

Allow me an illustrative metaphor. (You will see by my profile and post count that I am new here, so whereas some of the regulars are a little tired of dealing with people like you, it's still new to me, so I'm willing to put in some time on it.) Let's say there was a website. www.catsarethebestpets.com And you being a dog person jump into this forum berating everyone there for liking cats more than dogs, and ordering them to give you the evidence that cats are superior to dogs. They would, quite rightly, tell you to GTFO. If you don't think cats are the best pets, that's totally fine. But then you shouldn't go searching for sites that support that philosophy and berate the people that are there. It's just rude.
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Re: The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2008, 07:42:50 AM »
Now that, is an excellent post.
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Re: The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2008, 08:17:22 AM »


LOL

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Re: The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2008, 08:22:17 AM »

Re: The Earth is indeed a sphere.
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2008, 08:27:25 AM »
LOL! Mr. Cockmongler!


Just that if you have a formula with 3 variables, being time x speed of light = distance, and you only know one of those variables, that being speed of light, you cannot tell me how far away a star is. Or the sun for that matter.

Sometimes you know the time. The distance to the sun has been very accurately measured by radar.

Granted, measuring distances is one of the single most problematic issues to Cosmology. Still, distances are confirmed with redshifts of z = 6.96. That's a lot of megaparsecs.