Guns are evil

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Raist

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #210 on: August 18, 2008, 08:52:23 AM »
If a car going faster than the speed of sound hit you, then you would be dead no questions asked.

I don't know what things are like where you live, but over here it isn't legal to drive faster than 110 km/h.
It is also illegal to fire a gun at someone where you live. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. This is a hypothetical about how dangerous each object is.

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« Reply #211 on: August 18, 2008, 09:08:51 AM »
It is also illegal to fire a gun at someone where you live. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. This is a hypothetical about how dangerous each object is.

Okay then, find me an internal combustion powered vehicle that can exceed the speed of sound.
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« Reply #212 on: August 18, 2008, 09:10:41 AM »
Do jet engines count as internal combustion.  In the literal sense I think they would.

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« Reply #213 on: August 18, 2008, 09:13:28 AM »
Do jet engines count as internal combustion.  In the literal sense I think they would.

Was there supposed to be a question in there somewhere?
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« Reply #214 on: August 18, 2008, 09:16:51 AM »
Yeah sorry the first one.

Do jet engines count as internal combustion?


Or are you being sarcastic towards my comment?

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« Reply #215 on: August 18, 2008, 09:19:40 AM »
Yeah sorry the first one.

Do jet engines count as internal combustion?


Or are you being sarcastic towards my comment?

I was being sarcastic, yes. Also, for the purposes of my proposition to Raist, no they do not.
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« Reply #216 on: August 18, 2008, 09:20:10 AM »
It is also illegal to fire a gun at someone where you live. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. This is a hypothetical about how dangerous each object is.

Okay then, find me an internal combustion powered vehicle that can exceed the speed of sound.
Every vehicle on earth can exceed the speed of sound. Whether the engine can force it to go faster than the speed of sound is doubtful, but also completely irrelevant to the point.

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« Reply #217 on: August 18, 2008, 09:26:04 AM »
Every vehicle on earth can exceed the speed of sound. Whether the engine can force it to go faster than the speed of sound is doubtful, but also completely irrelevant to the point.

I thought I might get an answer like this. Okay then: find me a vehicle powered only by internal combustion that is likely to move faster than the speed of sound in an area with significant pedestrian activity when operated in the most common way.
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« Reply #218 on: August 18, 2008, 09:36:29 AM »
Every vehicle on earth can exceed the speed of sound. Whether the engine can force it to go faster than the speed of sound is doubtful, but also completely irrelevant to the point.

I thought I might get an answer like this. Okay then: find me a vehicle powered only by internal combustion that is likely to move faster than the speed of sound in an area with significant pedestrian activity when operated in the most common way.
I was just saying cars are more dangerous than guns. What are the odds a nuke will hit the city you live in? Do you consider a nuke more dangerous than guns?

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« Reply #219 on: August 18, 2008, 09:42:48 AM »
I was just saying cars are more dangerous than guns. What are the odds a nuke will hit the city you live in? Do you consider a nuke more dangerous than guns?

Nukes have largely the same effect no matter where they are detonated. A car will have a different effect if it is travelling at 60 km/h to if it is travelling at 1200 km/h.
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« Reply #220 on: August 18, 2008, 09:44:14 AM »
I was just saying cars are more dangerous than guns. What are the odds a nuke will hit the city you live in? Do you consider a nuke more dangerous than guns?

Nukes have largely the same effect no matter where they are detonated. A car will have a different effect if it is travelling at 60 km/h to if it is travelling at 1200 km/h.
not the question. the nuke has to be detonated first, a very rare occurance. Usually they just lay around doing nothing.

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« Reply #221 on: August 18, 2008, 10:07:35 AM »
not the question. the nuke has to be detonated first, a very rare occurance. Usually they just lay around doing nothing.

Nukes are detonated more often than cars travel faster than sound in places where their probability of colliding with a pedestrian is not negligible.
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« Reply #222 on: August 18, 2008, 10:42:40 AM »
not the question. the nuke has to be detonated first, a very rare occurance. Usually they just lay around doing nothing.

Nukes are detonated more often than cars travel faster than sound in places where their probability of colliding with a pedestrian is not negligible.
Zero Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles carrying nukes have killed people. Does that make them less dangerous than guns?

I was just saying the car was more dangerous than the gun under the same conditions.

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« Reply #223 on: August 18, 2008, 10:45:34 AM »
Zero Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles carrying nukes have killed people. Does that make them less dangerous than guns?

I was just saying the car was more dangerous than the gun under the same conditions.

That's like saying that glue is more likely to kill you than food if you eat it.
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« Reply #224 on: August 18, 2008, 11:33:33 AM »
Zero Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles carrying nukes have killed people. Does that make them less dangerous than guns?

I was just saying the car was more dangerous than the gun under the same conditions.

That's like saying that glue is more likely to kill you than food if you eat it.
Well glue is a lot more dangerous than food.....

Though if you mean elmer glue, it is not toxic, eat away.

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« Reply #225 on: August 18, 2008, 11:36:16 AM »
Well glue is a lot more dangerous than food.....

Though if you mean elmer glue, it is not toxic, eat away.

The point is that most people don't shove glue into their mouth three times a day.
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« Reply #226 on: August 18, 2008, 11:37:21 AM »
Well glue is a lot more dangerous than food.....

Though if you mean elmer glue, it is not toxic, eat away.

The point is that most people don't shove glue into their mouth three times a day.
and most people don't shoot themselves. I fail to see your point.

So you agree cars are more dangerous than guns?

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« Reply #227 on: August 18, 2008, 12:17:19 PM »
and most people don't shoot themselves. I fail to see your point.

So you agree cars are more dangerous than guns?

Only in the sense and to the extent that I agree that glue is more dangerous than food.
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« Reply #228 on: August 18, 2008, 12:19:27 PM »
and most people don't shoot themselves. I fail to see your point.

So you agree cars are more dangerous than guns?

Only in the sense and to the extent that I agree that glue is more dangerous than food.
Glue is non toxic. Choking on food kills more people than ingesting glue ever could. Reverse the example and it will make sense. Trolling with you sucks.

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« Reply #229 on: August 18, 2008, 12:32:36 PM »
Glue is non toxic. Choking on food kills more people than ingesting glue ever could. Reverse the example and it will make sense. Trolling with you sucks.

Alright, then replace "glue" with "petrol". Or, if you are American and therefore wrong, "gas".
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« Reply #230 on: August 18, 2008, 12:37:09 PM »
Glue is non toxic. Choking on food kills more people than ingesting glue ever could. Reverse the example and it will make sense. Trolling with you sucks.

Alright, then replace "glue" with "petrol". Or, if you are American and therefore wrong, "gas".
Ok, so cars are more dangerous than guns in the same way as drinking petrol is more dangerous than food. I can agree to that.

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« Reply #231 on: August 18, 2008, 12:42:50 PM »
Ok, so cars are more dangerous than guns in the same way as drinking petrol is more dangerous than food. I can agree to that.

Glad we're on the same plane.
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« Reply #232 on: August 18, 2008, 12:44:11 PM »
Okay sense guns have no conciousness they can't be evil but I'm assuming you mean the use of guns is evil.
In that case.  If a man breaks into my home with every intention of harming me and my family and I shoot him dead in self defense, is that evil?
You think that a photograph is indisputable evidence?  Would you like me to show you a photograph of Barack Obama having sex with a gorilla?

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« Reply #233 on: August 18, 2008, 01:23:04 PM »
Okay sense guns have no conciousness they can't be evil but I'm assuming you mean the use of guns is evil.
In that case.  If a man breaks into my home with every intention of harming me and my family and I shoot him dead in self defense, is that evil?
Did he plan to kill you? Could you have just shot him in the leg and left him alive? Did you do something to provoke him, such as breaking into his home and harming his family? Are you satan?

Answer these questions then i can decide if that would be evil.

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« Reply #234 on: August 18, 2008, 01:38:22 PM »
Okay sense guns have no conciousness they can't be evil but I'm assuming you mean the use of guns is evil.
In that case.  If a man breaks into my home with every intention of harming me and my family and I shoot him dead in self defense, is that evil?
Did he plan to kill you? Could you have just shot him in the leg and left him alive? Did you do something to provoke him, such as breaking into his home and harming his family? Are you satan?

Answer these questions then i can decide if that would be evil.
In all cases where my family is in danger I assume the worst.  I wouldn't know whether he had planned to kill unless he blantantly stated it.  Either way I'd probably kill him.  Why?  In Louisiana (aka Lousyana) you can break into someone's home, be shot in the leg or you can just slip in some water on their kitchen floor and you have the right to sue them.  If that's not the dumbest law I've ever heard.  Regardless, in my eyes if you mean to harm my family, death or not, I'd kill to protect them.
Let's also assume that I've never met this man before in my life.  He's simply breaking in to a random home for personal gains whether it be theft, pleasure from torturing and/or killing us, or just for sport.
And lastly, LOL, I don't really believe in Satan and do not recall any converstions with celestial beings so I'd have to say no.
You think that a photograph is indisputable evidence?  Would you like me to show you a photograph of Barack Obama having sex with a gorilla?

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« Reply #235 on: August 18, 2008, 01:45:14 PM »
yeah, asking narc legitimate, logical questions about guns, is stupid because he just ignores them. i've already tried in this thread, only flaming, trolling, and off-topic crap get a response from narc.

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« Reply #236 on: August 18, 2008, 01:54:06 PM »
yeah, asking narc legitimate, logical questions about guns, is stupid because he just ignores them. i've already tried in this thread, only flaming, trolling, and off-topic crap get a response from narc.
LOL.  I've noticed a trend.  So far I haven't seen much of anything to back up any of his "facts".  But hey, I figured I'd give it a go.   ;)
You think that a photograph is indisputable evidence?  Would you like me to show you a photograph of Barack Obama having sex with a gorilla?

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« Reply #237 on: August 18, 2008, 02:05:09 PM »
It is also illegal to fire a gun at someone where you live. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. This is a hypothetical about how dangerous each object is.

Okay then, find me an internal combustion powered vehicle that can exceed the speed of sound.
Every vehicle on earth can exceed the speed of sound. Whether the engine can force it to go faster than the speed of sound is doubtful, but also completely irrelevant to the point.
Even a 1973 Lime Green Pinto?
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« Reply #238 on: August 18, 2008, 02:06:46 PM »
well he is right that guns can't tuck your kids in at night. he'd also be right if he said pencils, trees, cd's, computers, phones, board games, and cameras can't tuck your kids in either.

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« Reply #239 on: August 18, 2008, 02:07:39 PM »
Okay sense guns have no conciousness they can't be evil but I'm assuming you mean the use of guns is evil.
In that case.  If a man breaks into my home with every intention of harming me and my family and I shoot him dead in self defense, is that evil?
Did he plan to kill you? Could you have just shot him in the leg and left him alive? Did you do something to provoke him, such as breaking into his home and harming his family? Are you satan?

Answer these questions then i can decide if that would be evil.
In all cases where my family is in danger I assume the worst.  I wouldn't know whether he had planned to kill unless he blantantly stated it.  Either way I'd probably kill him.  Why?  In Louisiana (aka Lousyana) you can break into someone's home, be shot in the leg or you can just slip in some water on their kitchen floor and you have the right to sue them.  If that's not the dumbest law I've ever heard.  Regardless, in my eyes if you mean to harm my family, death or not, I'd kill to protect them.
Let's also assume that I've never met this man before in my life.  He's simply breaking in to a random home for personal gains whether it be theft, pleasure from torturing and/or killing us, or just for sport.
And lastly, LOL, I don't really believe in Satan and do not recall any converstions with celestial beings so I'd have to say no.
You are obviously not a god fearing christian. Therefor all actions by you are evil. You are denied all the best ultrasex.