Guns are evil

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #180 on: August 16, 2008, 10:29:26 PM »
Interesting, I leave for a few minutes and the gun activists change the conversation from "gun are evil because they only kill people" to "best ways to kill people with guns"


It's safe to say all guns should be illegal. If I were president, I wouldn't just stop at our borders, Canada and Mexico must outlaw them too. With congressional support, we can pass such a law!
I say we wall off canada and mexico. Prevent them from bringing in their sinful lifestyles of catholicism, and homosexuality. Also California will become part of canada. Washington will be sacrificed to accomplish this.
You would piss off all of the mexicans who believe that california is part of mexico (la raza and Mecha)
Well it was.  Also la raza and Mecha have nothing to do with your argument.  You probably meant Aztlan.   
There are a few, I listed the 2 I am familiar with
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #181 on: August 16, 2008, 10:29:48 PM »
I vote for Mexico to become the next 51st state of the United States of America.

As opposed to the previous 51st state?

Puerto Rico?

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #182 on: August 16, 2008, 10:35:02 PM »
Puerto Rico?

I don't know much about American history, but from what I can gather from reading Wikipedia, Puerto Rico was given independence before Hawai'i joined the union.
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #183 on: August 16, 2008, 10:36:16 PM »
Guam?

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« Reply #184 on: August 16, 2008, 10:42:13 PM »
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #185 on: August 16, 2008, 10:48:49 PM »
The Mexicans were there first, you white pieces of shit.
They should be happy that we let have as much as we did since at one point in the war we controlled the entire country

Yeah, and then they took yer jerbs!
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #186 on: August 16, 2008, 10:50:39 PM »
Offtopic.


Case and point: guns can't tuck your children in at night.

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #187 on: August 16, 2008, 10:53:03 PM »
addendum: But they sure help. /thread.
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #188 on: August 16, 2008, 11:00:13 PM »
The Mexicans were there first, you white pieces of shit.
They should be happy that we let have as much as we did since at one point in the war we controlled the entire country
Shouldn't you be out burning a cross or something?
Why would I do that, does knowing the history of ones country mean that we need to burn crosses?
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« Reply #189 on: August 16, 2008, 11:01:09 PM »
The Mexicans were there first, you white pieces of shit.
They should be happy that we let have as much as we did since at one point in the war we controlled the entire country
Shouldn't you be out burning a cross or something?
Why would I do that, does knowing the history of ones country mean that we need to burn crosses?
Uh...is that a rhetorical question?

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« Reply #190 on: August 16, 2008, 11:02:08 PM »
The Mexicans were there first, you white pieces of shit.
They should be happy that we let have as much as we did since at one point in the war we controlled the entire country
Shouldn't you be out burning a cross or something?
Why would I do that, does knowing the history of ones country mean that we need to burn crosses?
Uh...is that a rhetorical question?
Pretty much
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2008, 11:02:35 PM »
Okay then.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2008, 11:33:25 PM »
Offtopic.


Case and point: guns can't tuck your children in at night.

What if I tuck my children in at nite with their guns?

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« Reply #193 on: August 17, 2008, 06:27:51 AM »
The AK is a perfectly accurate weapon with a much larger round.
Which one?
The 47 of course. I would have specified otherwise.
Then I have to disagree with you. The 47 is designed for close-quarters fights under harsh condition, without being repaired or cleaned too often. Thus, it is goes for reliability at the cost of accuracy.

The trajectory and reach of a 7.62 round are far superior to the 5.56 round. For CQB there is no weapon more used than the H&K MP5 in all of its varieties. If you're shopping for the ultimate SMG, look no further than the FN P90 in 5.7 caliber. When loaded with SS190 rounds it will penetrate 48 layers of kevlar at 150 yards. It's produced not far from where I live. It's also highly illegal to own one.
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #194 on: August 17, 2008, 08:30:28 AM »
The AK is a perfectly accurate weapon with a much larger round.
Which one?
The 47 of course. I would have specified otherwise.
Then I have to disagree with you. The 47 is designed for close-quarters fights under harsh condition, without being repaired or cleaned too often. Thus, it is goes for reliability at the cost of accuracy.

The trajectory and reach of a 7.62 round are far superior to the 5.56 round. For CQB there is no weapon more used than the H&K MP5 in all of its varieties. If you're shopping for the ultimate SMG, look no further than the FN P90 in 5.7 caliber. When loaded with SS190 rounds it will penetrate 48 layers of kevlar at 150 yards. It's produced not far from where I live. It's also highly illegal to own one.

1. Yes, 7.62 will go further than the .223.  But all this talk about the .223 being underpowered is crap. 
2. The MP5 is a good gun, but there are others that are up there with it.  The UZI being one.  It was designed for CQB. 
3.  Civilians can own the PS 90, its semi auto. 
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #195 on: August 17, 2008, 10:06:15 AM »
The AK is a perfectly accurate weapon with a much larger round.
Which one?
The 47 of course. I would have specified otherwise.
Then I have to disagree with you. The 47 is designed for close-quarters fights under harsh condition, without being repaired or cleaned too often. Thus, it is goes for reliability at the cost of accuracy.

The trajectory and reach of a 7.62 round are far superior to the 5.56 round. For CQB there is no weapon more used than the H&K MP5 in all of its varieties. If you're shopping for the ultimate SMG, look no further than the FN P90 in 5.7 caliber. When loaded with SS190 rounds it will penetrate 48 layers of kevlar at 150 yards. It's produced not far from where I live. It's also highly illegal to own one.

1. Yes, 7.62 will go further than the .223.  But all this talk about the .223 being underpowered is crap. 
2. The MP5 is a good gun, but there are others that are up there with it.  The UZI being one.  It was designed for CQB. 
3.  Civilians can own the PS 90, its semi auto. 

1. It will go further faster doing more damage. Nuff said.

2. The MP5 owes its accuracy to a unique blowback system. That's why it is used by Navy Seals, SWAT, GSG9 etc. The Uzi is nowhere near that, not even in the same class. It is however very easy to clean and assemble, which is nice.

3. Over here we get nada. Strictly army and police.
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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #196 on: August 17, 2008, 10:14:05 AM »
ITT: The NRA is looking for new members.
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sokarul

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #197 on: August 17, 2008, 10:19:15 AM »
The AK is a perfectly accurate weapon with a much larger round.
Which one?
The 47 of course. I would have specified otherwise.
Then I have to disagree with you. The 47 is designed for close-quarters fights under harsh condition, without being repaired or cleaned too often. Thus, it is goes for reliability at the cost of accuracy.

The trajectory and reach of a 7.62 round are far superior to the 5.56 round. For CQB there is no weapon more used than the H&K MP5 in all of its varieties. If you're shopping for the ultimate SMG, look no further than the FN P90 in 5.7 caliber. When loaded with SS190 rounds it will penetrate 48 layers of kevlar at 150 yards. It's produced not far from where I live. It's also highly illegal to own one.

1. Yes, 7.62 will go further than the .223.  But all this talk about the .223 being underpowered is crap. 
2. The MP5 is a good gun, but there are others that are up there with it.  The UZI being one.  It was designed for CQB. 
3.  Civilians can own the PS 90, its semi auto. 

1. It will go further faster doing more damage. Nuff said.

2. The MP5 owes its accuracy to a unique blowback system. That's why it is used by Navy Seals, SWAT, GSG9 etc. The Uzi is nowhere near that, not even in the same class. It is however very easy to clean and assemble, which is nice.

3. Over here we get nada. Strictly army and police.

1.  To bad you cant hit shit with an ak at those distances. 
2.  The uzi is actually really accurate. Its bolt allows for a longer barrel. 
3.  Can't help you there. 
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« Reply #198 on: August 17, 2008, 10:29:41 AM »
Puerto Rico?

I don't know much about American history, but from what I can gather from reading Wikipedia, Puerto Rico was given independence before Hawai'i joined the union.
Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are all U.S. Territories, they are U.S. citizens but they do not get to vote, Puerto Rico voted to become the 51st state a few years ago put it did not pass. Which is good for them because they pay even less taxes than those of us that live in the states
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« Reply #199 on: August 17, 2008, 10:31:30 AM »
I vote for Mexico to become the next 51st state of the United States of America.

As opposed to the previous 51st state?
Mexico should have been the 51st state but you know that stupid Missouri Compromise messed it all up
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« Reply #200 on: August 17, 2008, 09:43:48 PM »
Offtopic.


Case and point: guns can't tuck your children in at night.

neither can any other inanimate objects, and it'd take a really smart dog to be able to do it.

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« Reply #201 on: August 17, 2008, 10:47:06 PM »
Your stove can't tuck your kids in at night either, who would have thought  :o
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WardoggKC130FE

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« Reply #202 on: August 17, 2008, 10:51:03 PM »
Neither can your car.  And both guns and cars are equally as dangerous.

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Re: Guns are evil
« Reply #203 on: August 17, 2008, 10:52:16 PM »
Cars are more dangerous. If a car going faster than the speed of sound hit you, then you would be dead no questions asked. When a gun hits you with a bullet going that fast, you usually survive with medical attention.

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« Reply #204 on: August 17, 2008, 10:52:32 PM »
Neither can your car.  And both guns and cars are equally as dangerous.
Hy don't underestimate the killing power of your stove! That is one cold hearted son of a bitch, it is either us or them
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WardoggKC130FE

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« Reply #205 on: August 17, 2008, 11:01:40 PM »
Neither can your car.  And both guns and cars are equally as dangerous.
Hy don't underestimate the killing power of your stove! That is one cold hearted son of a bitch, it is either us or them

Especially if you leave bullets in it.


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« Reply #206 on: August 18, 2008, 04:52:46 AM »
If a car going faster than the speed of sound hit you, then you would be dead no questions asked.

I don't know what things are like where you live, but over here it isn't legal to drive faster than 110 km/h.
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« Reply #207 on: August 18, 2008, 04:59:04 AM »
much less triple that speed.
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« Reply #208 on: August 18, 2008, 05:39:46 AM »
much less triple that speed.

The speed of sound in air at standard atmospheric temperature and pressure is a lot more than triple that speed.
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« Reply #209 on: August 18, 2008, 07:08:19 AM »
Right, sorry. I just remembered the number, and temporarily forgot that it was in m/s. So, 10 times that speed.
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