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Jedinni

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Meteorites and Asteroids
« on: August 14, 2008, 06:53:45 AM »
Ok, so i read most of your FAQ and have many questions. The most pressing of wich is       what are meteorites and asteroids?  ???
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Parsifal

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 07:00:02 AM »
Meteorites are pieces of rock from space that have fallen to the surface of the Earth. Asteroids are pieces of rock in space orbiting about the north celestial pole.
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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 01:45:54 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on August 14, 2008, 07:00:02 AM
Meteorites are pieces of rock from space that have fallen to the surface of the Earth. Asteroids are pieces of rock in space orbiting about the north celestial pole.

Well, in the FE model, the meteorites are actually not accelerating at all, but the earth is accelerating towards them. It ends in the same result though.

Why is the dark energy that is accelerating the earth just stopping to affect some asteroids, so they stop accelerating, and the earth comes crashing into them?
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 01:55:34 PM »
Quote from: Christopher on August 14, 2008, 01:45:54 PM
Why is the dark energy that is accelerating the earth just stopping to affect some asteroids, so they stop accelerating, and the earth comes crashing into them?

Their orbital momentum carries them close enough to the Earth that it shields them from the dark energy, and from there the Earth accelerates up to meet them.
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Christopher

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 02:04:52 PM »
Is that explanation anything more than an idea, or in more scientific terms, an unsupported (or yet to be supported by evidence) hypothesis?
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 02:18:47 PM »
Quote from: Christopher on August 14, 2008, 02:04:52 PM
Is that explanation anything more than an idea, or in more scientific terms, an unsupported (or yet to be supported by evidence) hypothesis?

It is supported by evidence. We observe meteors entering the atmosphere.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 02:24:25 PM »
The problem is impact speed.  The math doesnt add up right.  Celestial bodies start at 3000 miles up, the earth accelerates at 9.8m/s^2.  Try it yourself. 

The meteor crater in Arizona is a good starting point.  You get the math to line up and then we will talk.
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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 02:54:19 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on August 14, 2008, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: Christopher on August 14, 2008, 02:04:52 PM
Is that explanation anything more than an idea, or in more scientific terms, an unsupported (or yet to be supported by evidence) hypothesis?

It is supported by evidence. We observe meteors entering the atmosphere.

The fact that they are observed entering the atmosphere only means they are entering the atmosphere. It does not prove anything of your model. It does not prove the dark energy's prior affect on it, it does not prove that the earth is accelerating towards it, and it most definitely does not prove the earth is round. The fact that the round earth model explains (with supporting evidence) in detail where they are coming from, why they are coming, and how it is possible.
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Jedinni

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 03:33:24 PM »
Ok, im sorry for being, well a dumbass   and as the fe people put "inacuratly educated"  ???!!!   but why do the asteroids not go as fast as the Earth and crash into it?     Once again sry for my lack of knowledge on this subjesct   :-\
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Christopher

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 04:58:36 PM »
They are too affected by the purely hypothetical, and magic variant of dark energy, which has to be "bent" around the earth, because the flat disc of the earth is apparently shielding from it, even though everything points to that the earth is made up of exactly the same basic elements as every other object in the known universe.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 05:05:33 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on August 14, 2008, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: Christopher on August 14, 2008, 01:45:54 PM
Why is the dark energy that is accelerating the earth just stopping to affect some asteroids, so they stop accelerating, and the earth comes crashing into them?

Their orbital momentum carries them close enough to the Earth that it shields them from the dark energy, and from there the Earth accelerates up to meet them.

Why do meteors get affected by shielding, but the sun and moon don't?   Can you give an equation for this shielding? 
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 12:49:23 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on August 14, 2008, 02:24:25 PM
The problem is impact speed.  The math doesnt add up right.  Celestial bodies start at 3000 miles up, the earth accelerates at 9.8m/s^2.  Try it yourself. 

The meteor crater in Arizona is a good starting point.  You get the math to line up and then we will talk.

They have an initial velocity towards the Earth due to their orbit; this is what carries them into the shielded zone.

Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 14, 2008, 05:05:33 PM
Why do meteors get affected by shielding, but the sun and moon don't?   Can you give an equation for this shielding? 

The sun and moon never come close enough to be shielded by the Earth, and no I do not have an equation.
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Christopher

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 04:49:07 AM »
Quote from: Robosteve on August 15, 2008, 12:49:23 AM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on August 14, 2008, 02:24:25 PM
The problem is impact speed.  The math doesnt add up right.  Celestial bodies start at 3000 miles up, the earth accelerates at 9.8m/s^2.  Try it yourself. 

The meteor crater in Arizona is a good starting point.  You get the math to line up and then we will talk.

They have an initial velocity towards the Earth due to their orbit; this is what carries them into the shielded zone.

Have you calculated the orbit of the asteroids? You do have the initial velocity, you do have its initial trajectory, and don't you also have the effect of the moon, sun and stars gravitational pull on it? Does this equation really sum up?

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Quote from: lolz at trollz on August 14, 2008, 05:05:33 PM
Why do meteors get affected by shielding, but the sun and moon don't?   Can you give an equation for this shielding? 

The sun and moon never come close enough to be shielded by the Earth, and no I do not have an equation.

Show it to us, including the required evidence to support the values you put into it.
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Christopher

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 10:58:15 AM »
No?
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Christopher

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 03:39:30 PM »
I guess you don't have them then. ;) Caugt lying..  ::)
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2008, 03:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on August 15, 2008, 12:49:23 AM
no I do not have an equation.

Quoted because you seem to have misread it.
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Christopher

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 03:18:51 AM »
Lol, sorry  ;D

But it's still nothing more than an idea, an unworked hypothesis with no scientific value at all.
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ash bash

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2008, 01:34:01 PM »
Quote from: Osama  bin Laden on August 14, 2008, 07:00:02 AM
Meteorites are pieces of rock from space that have fallen to the surface of the Earth. Asteroids are pieces of rock in space orbiting about the north celestial pole.

that is not technically correct. asteroids by definition are not just rock, they have a significant proportion of ice. meteorites do not have to fall to earth to be meteorites. just thought that i would point this out as we are on a forum of painfully padantic people
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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2008, 02:08:56 PM »
Quote from: ash bash on September 02, 2008, 01:34:01 PM
asteroids by definition are not just rock, they have a significant proportion of ice.

Maybe. I don't care; it doesn't affect my point.

Quote from: ash bash on September 02, 2008, 01:34:01 PM
meteorites do not have to fall to earth to be meteorites.

Wrong.
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ash bash

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2008, 11:59:50 PM »
i stand corrected. what are they called when they are up there then?
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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2008, 12:41:40 AM »
Quote from: ash bash on September 02, 2008, 11:59:50 PM
i stand corrected. what are they called when they are up there then?
nuisances that must be blown up with nuclear missiles.
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ash bash

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Re: Meteorites and Asteroids
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2008, 02:55:09 AM »
only if they are the size of CANADA

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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2008, 10:55:31 AM »
Quote from: ash bash on September 02, 2008, 11:59:50 PM
i stand corrected. what are they called when they are up there then?

Meteoroids. And when they are in the atmosphere, they are meteors.
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2008, 01:41:30 PM »
Quote from: Osama  bin Laden on August 14, 2008, 07:00:02 AM
Meteorites are pieces of rock from space that have fallen to the surface of the Earth. Asteroids are pieces of rock in space orbiting about the north celestial pole.

Do you not mean some kind of celestial gear?
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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2008, 11:19:49 PM »
Quote from: astronomy101 on September 03, 2008, 01:41:30 PM
Do you not mean some kind of celestial gear?

No, I don't.
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kommadore

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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2008, 11:56:10 PM »
There is too much information here for me to sort out the answer i would like in any reasonable ammount of time, but I would appreciate an explaination why meteorites can enter earth from space, but space travel is impossible? The FE theory that space travel is a conspiracy would further alienate modern/ near future experiments conducted in space, such as the trio of laser bearing satellites designed to test string theory... Also according the the FE map, is the moon in space, or is it reachable?
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