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Cinlef

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« on: May 06, 2006, 07:11:27 PM »
Do I believe the Earth is Flat?
No

Do I believe that belief in the Flat Earth is stupid and scientifically unsound?
Yes

Do I beleive in liberty?
Yes
Do I believe liberty means anyone should be apble to express their views freely no matter how foolish those views and no matter how much I may personally disagree with those views?
Yes.

These forums harm no one. Propaganda is not spread here, their is free debate which makes evident the flaws in the FE model. Clever informed debate by people who have read the FAQ.
So essentially, if you have something constructive to add to the forum please do so.
If not the Internet is vast and contains multitudes where you could be amusing yourself.BUt if you think that spamming into oblivion a website that encourages thedebate of moronic but harmless theories is some great moral victory you delude yourselfs and debase the noble concept of Liberty
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2006, 07:41:09 PM »
It's nothing personal.  I'm just an insanely talented man, with no real motivation to "better myself", since I'm already better then everyone else.  There's no sense of victory or accomplishment in anything for me, therefore, I exist only to cause suffering and anguish in others.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2006, 07:50:06 PM »
Quote from: "Cinlef"

Do I believe liberty means anyone should be apble to express their views freely no matter how foolish those views and no matter how much I may personally disagree with those views?
Yes.

Wouldn't this statement also apply to those censored or banned for posts that disagree with the flat earth concept?

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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2006, 07:54:43 PM »
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Wouldn't this statement also apply to those censored or banned for posts that disagree with the flat earth concept?


Not one single person has ever been banned (or censored) on this forum for disagreeing with the flat earth theory.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2006, 07:57:14 PM »
My post was unfairly deleted. I was asking a good question, and had so much to back it up with pictures.

But i named it Earth Pornography.
The only picture in it was a picture of the Earth.
Is there something wrong with the picture of the Earth, is it because it shows a round earth?
The Earth is round because Jesus told me so...

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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2006, 08:01:19 PM »
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My post was unfairly deleted. I was asking a good question, and had so much to back it up with pictures.

But i named it Earth Pornography.
The only picture in it was a picture of the Earth.
Is there something wrong with the picture of the Earth, is it because it shows a round earth?


Two things here. 1: Were pictures all that there was to it? because if so we delete/lock all threads that are just pictures of a round earth since there have literally been hundreds of them posted. And 2: Probably not a good idea to name your thread "pornography" anything.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2006, 08:04:10 PM »
It was pictures and a question to go with it, someone answered the question with a FEers response and I replyed to it only to see that the Topic was deleted and didn't exist anymore. Even though i just made it today.
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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2006, 08:05:39 PM »
What was the question?
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Jaxson

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2006, 08:11:43 PM »

With my picture it was, don't you notice that in the center of the picture it looks closer and as it goes outwards it looks farther away giving it a distinct curve?

Then someone replyed, the government just photoshops the picture to make the earth look round.

Then i said:

That couldn't be true. If you zoom in on the satellite photo of earth the pixel quality does not change anywhere. If the picture was photoshopped it would have changes in the pixel quality (Some areas of the picture when zoomed in would look blockier). But there are no changes, and there is no technology out there that can change a picture then make all the pixels look crystal clear without any discrepancies. This isn't CSI where we can make any picture crystal clear...


I don't think it was a bad topic, and don't see why it was deleted. ( I kinda understand with the name, but still... would it have been banned if i said ' The naked Earth'?)
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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2006, 08:21:54 PM »
Ah, I see. Well I'm sorry but like I said, all threads that are just pictures of the earth are deleted/locked since there are reams of them all over the board, and if flat earthers believed that pictures could prove whether or not the earth was round then obviously this site wouldn not be here.

I guess I need to add that to the FAQ so people wont have this problem anymore.
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Jaxson

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2006, 08:23:43 PM »
But still the answer with the pixel quality, i think it is a good thing to bring up, even if picture of the earth have already been shown.

Thanks anyways.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2006, 07:13:59 AM »
Quote from: "EnragedPenguin"
Quote from: "Jack Mehoff"
Wouldn't this statement also apply to those censored or banned for posts that disagree with the flat earth concept?


Not one single person has ever been banned (or censored) on this forum for disagreeing with the flat earth theory.


my al-quaeda conspiracy thread was deleted twice.

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Cinlef

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2006, 10:15:15 AM »
Whoops the Pornography thing was my bad.  It was the pornography in the subject heading that fooled me, as that same night some graphic and unpleasant photos had also been posted and I really didn't want to seem any more of them. I should have read your thread and humbly apologize. In the fure however dont put the word pornography in your thread name
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2006, 03:51:44 PM »
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my al-quaeda conspiracy thread was deleted twice.


Which forum did you post it in?  If it was in here, it was probably deleted for being off-topic. -- unless it was about an Al Queda conspiracy involving the shape of the Earth, I suppose.  You're more than welcome to post about any conspiracy you please in the Everything Else forum.  Or Alternative Science if it involves some sort of disputed scientific theory.

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2006, 04:13:27 PM »
If you guys have something to contribute im all for it,any new Ideas are great. Its good to have alot of people from different educational backgrounds posting here.  Im glad this website is still around.

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2006, 02:06:02 AM »
Some of my posts got deleted. The topics that my posts were in were also deleted as well. One of the guys was called Whitedude. It took me a while to realise that he was just spamming the whole forums up. Too bad I thought he was serious. He's gone now. I wonder what happened...

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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2006, 03:58:57 AM »
Quote from: "Cinlef"
Do I believe the Earth is Flat?
No

Do I believe that belief in the Flat Earth is stupid and scientifically unsound?
Yes

Do I beleive in liberty?
Yes
Do I believe liberty means anyone should be apble to express their views freely no matter how foolish those views and no matter how much I may personally disagree with those views?
Yes.

These forums harm no one. Propaganda is not spread here, their is free debate which makes evident the flaws in the FE model. Clever informed debate by people who have read the FAQ.
So essentially, if you have something constructive to add to the forum please do so.
If not the Internet is vast and contains multitudes where you could be amusing yourself.BUt if you think that spamming into oblivion a website that encourages thedebate of moronic but harmless theories is some great moral victory you delude yourselfs and debase the noble concept of Liberty
An enraged
Cinlef


I salute you, master of all, Cinlef. I don't think I've ever agreed so fully with a post by someone else. Congrats
he world isn't round.
The world isn't flat.
How stupid are you?
anyone should be able to see it's a cube

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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2006, 08:28:59 AM »
Quote from: "EnragedPenguin"
Quote from: "Jack Mehoff"
Wouldn't this statement also apply to those censored or banned for posts that disagree with the flat earth concept?


Not one single person has ever been banned (or censored) on this forum for disagreeing with the flat earth theory.


Wrong I was banned, and I had to make a new account.

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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2006, 09:54:47 AM »
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Wrong I was banned, and I had to make a new account.


I thought that they banned by IP address.  If that was true, you could just hook up with an anonymous proxy server and get back on that way...uh, nevermind.  Sorry.  Just a minor slip of the tongue.  My bad.   :D
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2006, 10:30:08 AM »
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Wrong I was banned, and I had to make a new account.


You were banned, but not for disagreeing with the flat earth theory.
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2006, 07:53:15 PM »
Quote from: "Cinlef"
Do I believe the Earth is Flat?
No

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Cinlef


Eh dont that make you one of the trolls then???

I see you argue the FE point of view!

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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2006, 03:53:39 AM »
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Quote from: "sven1988uk"
Wrong I was banned, and I had to make a new account.


You were banned, but not for disagreeing with the flat earth theory.


Contridiction, you said you've never banned anyone? Yet no you say you have...

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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2006, 07:25:55 AM »
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Contridiction, you said you've never banned anyone?


Funny, I don't seem to remember saying anything of the kind...
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2006, 11:37:28 AM »
Quote from: "EnragedPenguin"
Quote from: "Jack Mehoff"
Wouldn't this statement also apply to those censored or banned for posts that disagree with the flat earth concept?


Not one single person has ever been banned (or censored) on this forum for disagreeing with the flat earth theory.[/u]

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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2006, 02:44:01 AM »
So far in my time, I have only being disagreeing with the FE theory, it's not general discussion. Since most of the proof seems to come from the bible, I was discrediting it. Is this such a problem?

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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2006, 06:54:51 AM »
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Since most of the proof seems to come from the bible, I was discrediting it.


What "proof" are they pulling from the Bible?  I guess I've been missing it.  The Bible is a testimony of Christ's life, death, and resurrection.  Nowhere does it mention that the earth is flat.  Everybody, please stop trying to associate Christianity with the Flat Earth Society.  They are totally separate entities.  As I mentioned before, The Bible was written far before Columbus and Magellan even existed.  Back then, they had no idea that the earth was round.  Heck, back then, they didn't even have a periodic table of elements.  There is a complete difference in Christians and FE'ers.  For one thing, God is not a tangible being.  He WAS tangible when he lived on earth (which is thoroughly documented by witnesses who knew Jesus).  On the flipside, the so-called "edge of the earth" IS a tangible thing all around.  If it really exists, you should be able to see it and touch it.  This is where FE'ers fall short of their arguments.
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2006, 01:23:23 PM »
I believe you missed the genisis bit...

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

Also look at this...

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The Ends of the Earth

The angel Uriel guided Enoch in most of his travels. They made several trips to the ends of the earth, where the dome of heaven came down to the surface. For instance, Enoch says:

    I went to the extreme ends of the earth and saw there huge beasts, each different from the other and different birds (also) differing from one another in appearance, beauty, and voice. And to the east of those beasts, I saw the ultimate ends of the earth which rests on the heaven. And the gates of heaven were open, and I saw how the stars of heaven come out...(1 Enoch 33:1-2).

(The sharp-eyed reader will note what I suspect is an editing error in the Isaac translation. The earth resting on the heaven makes no sense. R. H. Charles has “whereon the heaven rests.”)

Again, Enoch says, “I went in the direction of the north, to the extreme ends of the earth, and there at the extreme end of the whole world I saw a great and glorious seat. There (also) I saw three open gates of heaven; when it blows cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain, through each one of the (gates) the winds proceed in the northwesterly direction (1 Enoch 34:1-2).” This accords well with Jeremiah 51:16 which says, “he brings up the mist from the ends of the earth, he opens rifts for the rain and brings the wind out of his storehouses.” In subsequent chapters, Enoch journeys “to the extreme ends of the earth” in the west, south, and east. In each place he saw three more “open gates of heaven.”

There were other things to be seen at the ends of the earth. Earlier, we deferred discussion of the King James version of Job 26:7, “He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.” On several occasions when Enoch and the angel are out beyond the dome of heaven, Enoch comments that there is nothing above or below. For instance, “And I came to an empty place. And I saw (there) neither a heaven above nor an earth below, but a chaotic and terrible place (1 Enoch 21:1-2).” Could this be the kind of nothingness referred to in Job?

An angel also showed Enoch the storerooms of the winds (18:1) and the cornerstone of the earth (18:2).


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Conclusion

From their geographical and historical context, one would expect the ancient Hebrews to have a flat-earth cosmology. Indeed, from the very beginning, ultra-orthodox Christians have been flat-earthers, arguing that to believe otherwise is to deny the literal truth of the Bible. The flat-earth implications of the Bible were rediscovered and popularized by English-speaking Christians in the mid-19th century. Liberal scriptural scholars later derived the same view. Thus, students with remarkably disparate points of view independently concluded that the ancient Hebrews had a flat-earth cosmology, often deriving this view from scripture alone. Their conclusions were dramatically confirmed by the rediscovery of 1 Enoch.


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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2006, 10:12:09 AM »
Dude, there is so much crap in that link.  I am a Christian, but the way that he is twisting the words of the Bible around to suit his own fancy, it isn't worth arguing with the guy.  I have never heard of this guy who claims that this book exists.  Must be a Morman.  Enoch is not even a book in the Bible.
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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2006, 01:44:11 PM »
lol I'm an Aithiest... I couldn't give a crap what people believe, so many other books say the exact same thing. And as far as I can tell, the Genisis is the first bulk in the Bible? There is much evidence in these books which asumes the world is flat.

What I don't get is how people can call this proof when it was written by people when the word technology wasn't even known.
Since my aim was to discredit the bible of any possible proof, I think you did a good enough job anyways.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2006, 07:17:09 AM »
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There is much evidence in these books which asumes the world is flat.


Evidence that ASSUMES?  I have never heard of that before.  Isn't evidence supposed to PROVE something?  If you want evidence, you have to seek it for yourself.  I read "Pet Sematary" by Steven King.  Does that PROVE that it is possible to bury somebody in a Pet Cemetary and bring them back to life?     The only conclusion that you can draw in regards to the people of the Bible and the Flat Earth Theory is that back then, people did not know that the world was round.  That is true.  Back then, I'm pretty sure that they didn't know that the Pistons would win a championship either.  Wanna know why?  Because basketball wasn't even a sport yet!

I also find it amazing that thousands of years later, all of these people are "discovering" these "long lost passages of the Bible".  People like that really annoy me.  BTW, if you are a Morman and you are reading this, the Book of Morman is a load of crap written by somebody who was stoned to death in the 1800's for spreading lies about the gospel.  If you come to my house, be prepared to argue (assuming I even answer the door).
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