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Why is it that when the earth blocks the sun from the moon it casts a round shadow on the moon?

That you can observe ships "sinking" over the horizon?

Also, when it is noon Hawaii, it's midnight in the Middle East, and vice versa. Why?

1: The earth never passes between the sun and moon in FE theory. Instead a unidentified object passes between them, creating the shadow.

2: This is a perspective effect explained here.

3: The atmospheric refraction prevents the suns rays from reaching the entire earth at once. See below picture.

Okay, what about when you measure the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, The constellations shift relative to the horizon as you move north and south around the globe. Why? Couldn't this only be possible on a sphere?

Finally, how can you explain the photographs taken by NASA of a round Earth? Don't say Photoshop.

Edit: Also, what are the FE views on other planets? You can see they're spheres in the sky.

Thanks for answering some of my questions. 

Okay, what about when you measure the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Taking into account atmospheric refraction the angles of the shadows indicate a round earth.

Also, The constellations shift relative to the horizon as you move north and south around the globe. Why? Couldn't this only be possible on a sphere?

Can you provide a source for you claim?

Finally, how can you explain the photographs taken by NASA of a round Earth? Don't say Photoshop.

They were faked with an image manipulation program.

Okay, what about when you measure the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

The Flat Earth Society actively uses Eratosthenes' experiments to explain features of the FE model. Here's a link which explains the idea. The explanation is at the very bottom. Scroll all the way to the bottom to the "Alternate Model" section. You will find that we can useEratosthenes' data, in conjunction with the assumption of a Flat Earth, to confirm that the sun is very near to the earth. We can calculate an exact figure for the sun's distance, showing that it is very close to the earth.

As far as Eratosthenes' measurement for the earth's circumference, he was actually measuring the circumference of the sun's orbit.

Also, The constellations shift relative to the horizon as you move north and south around the globe. Why? Couldn't this only be possible on a sphere?

In the Flat Earth model the stars are all within four thousand miles above the surface of the earth and are very small bodies. The northern stars appear to descend as you travel Southward due to the natural laws of perspective.

Also, what are the FE views on other planets? You can see they're spheres in the sky.

Other planets are not the earth. The earth is an infinite (or near-infinite) plane which bisects the universe. The earth is the only known material world and the only environment known to support life.

Finally, how can you explain the photographs taken by NASA of a round Earth? Don't say Photoshop.

NASA is a fraudulent organization established by the US Military for the express purpose of creating the appearance of space travel. In the 60's the military needed to create the illusion of space travel in order to threaten enemy nations into check with ICBM's. ICBM's are the source of power for America and her allies. The government will go to great lengths to keep the illusion of space travel alive.

Too bad that picture doesnt work and is a complete fallacy.

What about the midnight sun on Antartica and the North Pole (during opposite times of the year)

What about the phases of the moon?

Now add the rest of the planets to that model.  How do Venus and Mercury transverse across the face of the sun between it and us?

Also consider planetary rings

What about the midnight sun on Antartica and the North Pole (during opposite times of the year)

The Midnight Sun occurs in the North because the sun is changing its radius around the North Pole every six months. See the seasons section of the FAQ for more information.

The Midnight Sun does not occur in the South.

What about the phases of the moon?

The moon wobbles up and down in its orbit with a period of 29.5 days. When it is level with the sun it's a first quarter moon and approximately fifty percent of the moon's surface facing the earth is illuminated. When the moon is above the sun there's a full moon. When the moon is at a level below the sun there's a new moon.

Now add the rest of the planets to that model.  How do Venus and Mercury transverse across the face of the sun between it and us?

Mercury and Venus are bodies smaller than the sun.

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What about the midnight sun on Antartica and the North Pole (during opposite times of the year)

The Midnight sun does not occur in the South.
The Midnight Sun occurs in the North because the sun is changing its radius around the North Pole every six months. See the FAQ doe more information.

Try again troll.  Make up you mind Tom.  Sometimes it does because of ice particles and refraction/reflection or something and other times it doesn't at all. 

Internet quote follows: While the North Pole is in constant darkness (winter), the South Pole is in constant sunlight (summer). For example, in the Northern Hemisphere, Christmas is in the winter - in the Southern Hemisphere (like Australia) Christmas is in the summer.

What about the phases of the moon?

The moon wobbles up and down in its orbit with a period of 29.5 days. When it is level with the sun it's a first quarter moon and approximately fifty percent of the moon's surface facing the earth is illuminated. When the moon is above the sun there's a full moon. When the moon is at a level below the sun there's a new moon.

Explain solar and lunar eclipses for me again.

Now add the rest of the planets to that model.  How do Venus and Mercury transverse across the face of the sun between it and us?

Mercury and Venus are bodies smaller than the sun.

What about the rest of the planets?  Why don't they transverse in the same manner?

Try again troll.  Make up you mind Tom.  Sometimes it does because of ice particles and refraction/reflection or something and other times it doesn't at all.

There are weird ice crystal effects which illuminate the entire coast of antarctic when the sun's light touches the Antarctic coast during its Southern Annulus, but it's not the midnight sun. The perpetual day experienced on the coast is a byproduct of light reflecting along the ice crystals in the upper polar strata like a house of mirrors. Sir James Clark Ross, the first Antarctic polar explorer, reported such an odd perpetual day without a sun.

Explain solar and lunar eclipses for me again.

A Solar Eclipse occurs when the moon passes in front of the sun.

A Lunar Eclipse occurs about twice a year when a satellite of the sun passes between the sun and moon.

This satellite is called the Shadow Object. Its orbital plane is tilted at an angle of about 5°10' to the sun's orbital plane, making eclipses possible only when the three bodies (Sun, Object, and Moon) are aligned and when the moon is crossing the sun's orbital plane (at a point called the node). Within a given year, considering the orbitals of these celestial bodies, a maximum of three lunar eclipses can occur. Despite the fact that there are more solar than lunar eclipses each year, over time many more lunar eclipses are seen at any single location on earth than solar eclipses. This occurs because a lunar eclipse can be seen from the entire half of the earth beneath the moon at that time, while a solar eclipse is visible only along a narrow path on the earth's surface.

Total lunar eclipses come in clusters. There can be two or three during a period of a year or a year and a half, followed by a lull of two or three years before another round begins. When you add partial eclipses there can be three in a calendar year and again, it's quite possible to have none at all.

The shadow object is never seen because it closely orbits the sun. As the sun's powerful vertical rays hit the atmosphere they will scatter and blot out nearly every single star and celestial body in the sky. We are never given a glimpse of the celestial bodies which appear near the sun during the day - they are completely washed out by the sun's light.

Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham estimates the Shadow Object to be a few miles in diameter. Since it is very close to the sun the manifestation of its penumbra upon the moon appears as a magnified projection. This is similar to how during a shadow puppet show your hand's shadow can make a large magnified projection upon your bedroom wall as you move it closer to the flashlight.

Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has provided equations for predicting the time, magnitude, and duration of a Lunar Eclipse at the end of Chapter 11 of Earth Not a Globe.

It's entirely possible that the Shadow Object is a known celestial body which orbits the sun; but more study would be needed to track the positions of Mercury, Venus and the sun's asteroid satellites during a Lunar Eclipse.

What about the rest of the planets?  Why don't they transverse in the same manner?

Mercury and Venus occasionally pass between the observer and sun because they are the closest in proximity around the sun. They are moving very close around it. Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and the other outer planets make larger sweeping orbits around the sun and it's harder for them to be in a position to where they can position themselves between an observer and the sun.

There are weird ice crystal effects which illuminate the entire coast of antarctic when the sun's light touches the Antarctic coast during its Southern Annulus, but it's not the midnight sun. The perpetual day experienced on the coast is a byproduct of light reflecting along the ice crystals in the upper polar strata like a house of mirrors. Sir James Clark Ross, the first Antarctic polar explorer, reported such an odd perpetual day without a sun.

But made no mention of "weird ice crystal effects". Such an effect even to test to see if it is true, would require an enormous amount of resources and must be done on an equal scale, which is impossible. But under RE it makes much better sense because you can accurately describe why it happens without having to make up "weird", untestable optical illusions

The shadow object is never seen because it closely orbits the sun. As the sun's powerful vertical rays hit the atmosphere they will scatter and blot out nearly every single star and celestial body in the sky. We are never given a glimpse of the celestial bodies which appear near the sun during the day - they are completely washed out by the sun's light.

No Tom, you can easily see the sun if you filter for certain aspects, which will still leave stars visible in the sun's vicinity. A giant hole that passes through and obstructs other stars would be easily visible and easy to spot, even if it's directly in front of the sun. You have already had similar discussions about the shadow object in the past, but you still have many questions unanswered

Better yet, draw me a picture of the shadow objects orbit. Or some research on the shadow object by anybody, something that gives me more than I could find on google, which is basically just on this forum
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Sda&q=%22shadow+object%22+eclipse&btnG=Search

Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has provided equations for predicting the time, magnitude, and duration of a Lunar Eclipse at the end of Chapter 11 of Earth Not a Globe.

Which have nothing to do with proving FE, RE also has a similar explanations that hold just as much weight. Predictions of natural, recurring events like eclipses have been done by ancient peoples, with no regards as to the shape of the earth, or the existence of a shadow object

It's entirely possible that the Shadow Object is a known celestial body which orbits the sun; but more study would be needed to track the positions of Mercury, Venus and the sun's asteroid satellites during a Lunar Eclipse.

Darn, if only there were FE astronomers. Would you like to fill the gap?

Mercury and Venus occasionally pass between the observer and sun because they are the closest in proximity around the sun. They are moving very close around it. Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and the other outer planets make larger sweeping orbits around the sun and it's harder for them to be in a position to where they can position themselves between an observer and the sun.

But that doesn't answer the question.

Thanks for all the help guys.