20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ

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ghazwozza

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2008, 07:24:57 AM »
Right, I can't seem to get a straight answer, so I'm just going to ask this directly:

In RET, scientists acknowledge that Newtonian gravity is flawed, but can often be used anyway.
How is this different in FET, and why?

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2008, 12:01:22 PM »
The OP is one of the best posts by an REer on this forum ever.  Of course I just skimmed it because it was way too long to read, but I really admire Zotoaster's tenacity on this very important subject.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2008, 01:03:39 PM »
The OP is one of the best posts by an REer on this forum ever.  Of course I just skimmed it because it was way too long to read, but I really admire Zotoaster's tenacity on this very important subject.
Thanks man. You have lifted my spirits about this thread!  8)

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2008, 01:37:53 PM »
The OP is one of the best posts by an REer on this forum ever.  Of course I just skimmed it because it was way too long to read, but I really admire Zotoaster's tenacity on this very important subject.

I enjoyed his tenacity, civility and willingness to learn and accept error. I wish there were more globularists like him/her.
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2008, 02:01:56 PM »
The OP is one of the best posts by an REer on this forum ever.  Of course I just skimmed it because it was way too long to read, but I really admire Zotoaster's tenacity on this very important subject.

Indeed, soup and sauce for the OP!  I wish more people on this board would learn from his example. 
Well because of your immaturity and unnatural ignorance you have failed at another post.

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2008, 03:23:37 PM »
Heheh, I appreciate it. I understand that some people come here and just throw insults around, but I don't argue like that, haha.

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2008, 03:28:46 PM »
Tell your parents I'm proud of them. I have a slight glimmer of hope for future generations.
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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2008, 11:12:33 PM »
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If we accelerated up (through spacetime) forever, we would reach the speed of light.
It would take an infinite amount of time to reach the speed of light.

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This would mean we would be infinitely thin and infinitely massive.
No, we would be pretty normal.
1st quote: It does take an infinite amount of time to reach the speed of light, but it's because your rate of acceleration is going slower and slower, so you'll get lighter and lighter. (people losing weight will be reallly happy! :D)
2nd quote: Citation needed. Do you have anybody who says travelling at light speed will not affect the appereances and masses of yourself? You will get infinitely heavy; you will suck things faster than a black hole and can even eat light (:) :D ;D!) You will not look thin to other people on "Flat Earth", but to a stationary person, you ARE infinitely thin.
Guys, use logic, please.

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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2008, 11:17:48 PM »
1. Your acceleration would be constant. An outside observer would notice a deceleration.

2. You would not notice.
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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #69 on: July 01, 2008, 05:43:59 AM »
1st quote: It does take an infinite amount of time to reach the speed of light, but it's because your rate of acceleration is going slower and slower, so you'll get lighter and lighter. (people losing weight will be reallly happy! :D)
What?  That does not make any sense.

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2nd quote: Citation needed.
Special Relativity.


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Re: 20 problems and fallacies in the FAQ
« Reply #70 on: July 01, 2008, 08:36:28 AM »
The OP is one of the best posts by an REer on this forum ever.
I agree. He debated against FE using some basic philosophical concepts taught in my critical thinking class last semester. This is more effective than debating with science full-scale.