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So where is this 'Ice Wall'

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So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« on: June 24, 2008, 01:24:11 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is absoloutely NO evidence of a wall of ice that surrounds the whole Earth.

Just saying 'It's a conspiracy, the government are stopping us from reaching it' is not evidence, nor fact. So don't say it is either of these things. It's wild speculation with nothing to prove it. How could they possibly stop us from reaching it? And no one has ever seen any evidence of armed guards or anything.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 01:29:53 PM »
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:24:11 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is absoloutely NO evidence of a wall of ice that surrounds the whole Earth.

Just saying 'It's a conspiracy, the government are stopping us from reaching it' is not evidence, nor fact. So don't say it is either of these things. It's wild speculation with nothing to prove it. How could they possibly stop us from reaching it? And no one has ever seen any evidence of armed guards or anything.

 It's beyond the North Pole. (Although most people think it's in the Antarctic region.) In theory, it's impossible to get to. People have tried to get to it before, but none have probably made it to the Ice Wall alive.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM »
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM »
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?

 The government is hiding it from us though.
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RST

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 01:40:40 PM »
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?

 The government is hiding it from us though.

As I said, there's no evidence of that. You can't just say it because you BELIEVE it to be true. It's wild speculation.
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the_flutist

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 01:46:46 PM »
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?

 The government is hiding it from us though.

As I said, there's no evidence of that. You can't just say it because you BELIEVE it to be true. It's wild speculation.

 How is the water kept on Earth though?
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RST

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 01:48:29 PM »
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?

 The government is hiding it from us though.

As I said, there's no evidence of that. You can't just say it because you BELIEVE it to be true. It's wild speculation.

 How is the water kept on Earth though?

Gravity, because the Earth is a SPHERE.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2008, 01:50:43 PM »
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?

 The government is hiding it from us though.

As I said, there's no evidence of that. You can't just say it because you BELIEVE it to be true. It's wild speculation.

 How is the water kept on Earth though?

On the oblate spheroid Earth: Gravity
On the flat Earth: Magic
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2008, 01:57:01 PM »
This is where I seriously doubt this "Flat Earth" theory...

It's foundations are based soley on speculation.... not any concrete facts.
Is there any proof of the governments conspiring?
If there is, I would love to hear it :)
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 01:57:50 PM »
Another win for RE, I think?
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 01:59:52 PM »
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:57:50 PM
Another win for RE, I think?

I think so too my friend.

Another victory for RE!
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 02:01:48 PM »
I don't think an icewall is necessary for a FE, if that was your concern. That I tend to lean toward the idea that there is one, does not make it required.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 02:04:04 PM »
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:01:48 PM
I don't think an icewall is necessary for a FE, if that was your concern. That I tend to lean toward the idea that there is one, does not make it required.

So if there wasn't a "ice wall", how would the water be kept in?


You guys say their is no gravity... so... :-\
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the_flutist

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2008, 02:06:27 PM »
Quote from: Androkles on June 24, 2008, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: the_flutist on June 24, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: RST on June 24, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
So, my point remains valid, there's no evidence of an Ice Wall, so therefore we can't assume there is one?

 The government is hiding it from us though.

As I said, there's no evidence of that. You can't just say it because you BELIEVE it to be true. It's wild speculation.

 How is the water kept on Earth though?

On the oblate spheroid Earth: Gravity
On the flat Earth: Magic

 No, on Flat Earth, an Ice Wall keeps it in.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2008, 02:08:16 PM »
An amount of DE sufficient to accelerate the earth would be sufficient to hold in the atmoplane and oceans.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2008, 02:10:57 PM »
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So if there wasn't a "ice wall", how would the water be kept in?

The water is kept in by the 150 foot Ice Shelves and the landmass of the Antarctic Rim.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2008, 02:12:19 PM »
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So if there wasn't a "ice wall", how would the water be kept in?

The water is kept in by the 150 foot Ice Shelves and the landmass of the Antarctic Rim.

How do you know its 150 foot high when it's guarded by "conspiracy guards".
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2008, 02:13:54 PM »
I've seen pictures of ice shelves there? Even ones being guarded.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2008, 02:14:38 PM »
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
I've seen pictures of ice shelves there? Even ones being guarded.

Bring 'em.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2008, 02:16:23 PM »
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How do you know its 150 foot high when it's guarded by "conspiracy guards".

The Inner Ice Wall exists at the water's edge and is analogous to the Ice Shelves which sit at the Antarctic coast. They are not guarded. The shelves are widely known and widely studied. Hundreds of people visit them every year.

The Ice Shelves were discovered by Sir James Clark Ross, a polar explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole. Upon confronting the massive vertical front of of ice he famously remarked

    "It was ... an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings, for we might as well sail through the cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass.

    It would be impossible to conceive a more solid-looking mass of ice; not the smallest appearance of any rent or fissure could we discover throughout its whole extent, and the intensely bright sky beyond it but too plainly indicated the great distance to which it reached southward."

Here are the shelves of ice Ross discovered: http://i23.tinypic.com/nwkp5t.jpg
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2008, 02:16:40 PM »
shoud it not be notistleble that the FE artic is biggen that the RE artic.
And when you go around the artic, should it not be notistleble that the shape is diferend?
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Androkles

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2008, 02:17:58 PM »
Quote from: charlie on June 24, 2008, 02:16:40 PM
shoud it not be notistleble that the FE artic is biggen that the RE artic.
And when you go around the artic, should it not be notistleble that the shape is diferend?

Indistinguishable post is indistinguishable.
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Androkles

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2008, 02:19:59 PM »
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How do you know its 150 foot high when it's guarded by "conspiracy guards".

The Inner Ice Wall exists at the water's edge and is analogous to the Ice Shelves which sit at the Antarctic coast. They are not guarded. The shelves are widely known and widely studied. Hundreds of people visit them every year.

The Ice Shelves were discovered by Sir James Clark Ross, a polar explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole. Upon confronting the massive vertical front of of ice he famously remarked

    "It was ... an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings, for we might as well sail through the cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass.

    It would be impossible to conceive a more solid-looking mass of ice; not the smallest appearance of any rent or fissure could we discover throughout its whole extent, and the intensely bright sky beyond it but too plainly indicated the great distance to which it reached southward."


Here are the shelves of ice Ross discovered: http://i23.tinypic.com/nwkp5t.jpg

I see.

"Inner Ice Wall" from what position of observer?
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2008, 02:25:18 PM »
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I see.

"Inner Ice Wall" from what position of observer?

Some people believe that there is a Greater Ice Wall which sits tens or hundreds of thousands of miles beyond the Antarctic rim in the uncharted tundra of ice and snow. However, this wall is entirely hypothetical. Man has only been about two thousand miles inland of the Antarctic coast. No one has reported such a thing.

What exists beyond the antarctic rim is anyone's guess. How far the ice extends; how it terminates; and what exists beyond it, are questions to which no present human experience can reply. All we at present know is, that snow and hail, howling winds, and indescribable storms and hurricanes prevail; and that in every direction "human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice," extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate, and becoming lost in gloom and darkness. Some even hold that the tundra of ice and snow stretches forever outwards eternally.
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2008, 02:39:44 PM »
Quote from: Androkles on June 24, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
I've seen pictures of ice shelves there? Even ones being guarded.

Bring 'em.


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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2008, 02:40:53 PM »
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: Androkles on June 24, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
I've seen pictures of ice shelves there? Even ones being guarded.

Bring 'em.




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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2008, 02:41:06 PM »
Baybe the ice wall is a part of the concpairesy.

It build itself to covince poeple that the earth is round.
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Androkles

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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2008, 02:41:38 PM »
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: Androkles on June 24, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
I've seen pictures of ice shelves there? Even ones being guarded.

Bring 'em.




Why should they allow people to take pictures of them, and put them on the internetz?

"We have a conspiracy going on here, but pictures are OK"
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2008, 02:42:49 PM »
I thought RE'ers thought pictures were infallible.   ???
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Re: So where is this 'Ice Wall'
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2008, 02:45:14 PM »
Quote from: Ski on June 24, 2008, 02:42:49 PM
I thought RE'ers thought pictures were infallible.   ???

I've never said such thing.

But posting a picture that is directly conflicting with your own conspiracy theory is...well, plain stupid.
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