How is this possible

These guys trekked acrossed Antarctica in 220 days, on foot.

Are they in on the conspiracy as well?

http://www.willsteger.com/content/section/19/97

They went to the marker that denotes the "south pole" and then went back to the coast via a different route? I'm not sure why that's impossible.

They went to the marker that denotes the "south pole" and then went back to the coast via a different route? I'm not sure why that's impossible.

The article, at least to my interpretation, indicates otherwise.

...in March they reached the opposite side of the continent.

They went to the marker that denotes the "south pole" and then went back to the coast via a different route? I'm not sure why that's impossible.

Where exactly is this marker, on the ring that is Antarctica in FET?  How about a Lat Long or something.  Are there multiple markers?  If I hit the coast in the wrong spot it would make it a long trek just to get to the marker don't you think?  And then to head off to the OPPOSITE coast would definately take longer than 220 days.

The guy actually walked in circles even though he knows he's waling in a straight line

Here Ill provide you with a map.  Please mark the south pole marker for me.

The guy actually walked in circles even though he knows he's waling in a straight line

You mean around the circumference? Wouldn't that mean he would have to have walked thousands and thousands of miles? Clearly, he didn't go that far.

Quote from: Penispoop agogo on June 20, 2008, 02:30:52 PM

The guy actually walked in circles even though he knows he's waling in a straight line

You mean around the circumference? Wouldn't that mean he would have to have walked thousands and thousands of miles? Clearly, he didn't go that far.

He has a point, it's poosible to make unnoticed a detour, but that is a really large one.

Quote from: Penispoop agogo on June 20, 2008, 02:30:52 PM

The guy actually walked in circles even though he knows he's waling in a straight line

You mean around the circumference? Wouldn't that mean he would have to have walked thousands and thousands of miles? Clearly, he didn't go that far.

It's just an excuse FE'ers use when pilots fly over antarctica

Win for RE

Win for RE

One of many.  I'm just waiting for the "Those guys are really in on the conspiracy and didn't actually do what they said they did" argument.  You could almost set your watch to it.

You'd really have to reliably know exactly where they began and ended the trip.

I'd have to see a map of their route, and compare it with my hypothesized map of the Antarctic. I'm not at home right now though.  I'll try to remember to get a few minutes at work to work on it.

Is that map I provided not good enough for a south pole marker spot?

I will look for a map of their route.

Ok Heres what I came up with.  I cannot find an actual route map. What is listed is their starting point and ending point.

If you look at this map they started at the antarctic peninsula (at about the 10 o'clock position on the map) and ended at the Mirnyy station (3 o'clock position on the map) 

Now in RET this is 3471 miles. *updated*

In FET??? - (FE enters value here)

So no one wants to mark the South Pole Marker for me on my first map?

It doesn't matter. All of these expeditions and bases on Antarctica are government funded.

It doesn't matter. All of these expeditions and bases on Antarctica are government funded.

Ok fine.  But you do acknowledge somewhere on Antarctica (the lesser ice wall as you call it) is a marker that says geographic south pole dont you?

It doesn't matter. All of these expeditions and bases on Antarctica are government funded.

That's a nice way of dodging having to put any of these locations on a map, which has yet to be done in any thread

Ok fine.  But you do acknowledge somewhere on Antarctica (the lesser ice wall as you call it) is a marker that says geographic south pole dont you?

Sure, I'd imagine the American marker is somewhere 90^oS, which is a ring of land 1,500 miles inland of the antarctic coast. If the American explorers who planted it left from the tip of South America, then the tip of South America probably points towards the marker.

The Russian markers and bases are probably in an area southward of Russia, the New Zealand markers and bases are southward of New Zealand, while the Australian markers and bases are probably southward of Australia.

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Ok fine.  But you do acknowledge somewhere on Antarctica (the lesser ice wall as you call it) is a marker that says geographic south pole dont you?

Sure, I'd imagine the American marker is somewhere 90^oS, which is a ring of land 1,500 miles inland of the antarctic coast. If the American explorers who planted it left from the tip of South America, then the tip of South America probably points towards the marker.

The Russian markers and bases are probably in an area southward of Russia, the New Zealand markers and bases are southward of New Zealand, while the Australian markers and bases are probably southward of Australia.

Hilarious.  What about the base that is at the south pole?  Are these bases and markers exactly the same?  So that a Russian explorer that just happened to start at New Zealand instead of his normal starting point wouldn't be confused when he got to what he thought was his own marker?

What about the base that is at the south pole?

The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station is at 90^oS, a distance of 1,500 miles inland of the Antarctic Rim. Since the base is American built and operated, its location is likely southward of South America.

Are these bases and markers exactly the same?  So that a Russian explorer that just happened to start at New Zealand instead of his normal starting point wouldn't be confused when he got to what he thought was his own marker?

If the explorers start from a different starting point then they would not find their markers and will get lost and die in the fringed icy wasteland of Antarctica. That could be why so many Antarctic explorers have disappeared since the turn of the last century.

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What about the base that is at the south pole?

The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station is at 90^oS, a distance of 1,500 miles inland of the Antarctic Rim. Since the base is American built and operated, its location is likely southward of South America.

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Are these bases and markers exactly the same?  So that a Russian explorer that just happened to start at New Zealand instead of his normal starting point wouldn't be confused when he got to what he thought was his own marker?

If the explorers start from a different starting point then they would not find their markers and will get lost and die in the fringed icy wasteland of Antarctica. That could be why so many Antarctic explorers have disappeared since the turn of the last century.

What about an American scientist that is already at the south pole station.  And an Australian scientist shows up and says he started from Australia.  How would he be able to head due south and run into the same station the American is at?

Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 21, 2008, 04:16:18 PM

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What about the base that is at the south pole?

The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station is at 90^oS, a distance of 1,500 miles inland of the Antarctic Rim. Since the base is American built and operated, its location is likely southward of South America.

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Are these bases and markers exactly the same?  So that a Russian explorer that just happened to start at New Zealand instead of his normal starting point wouldn't be confused when he got to what he thought was his own marker?

If the explorers start from a different starting point then they would not find their markers and will get lost and die in the fringed icy wasteland of Antarctica. That could be why so many Antarctic explorers have disappeared since the turn of the last century.

What about an American scientist that is already at the south pole station.  And an Australian scientist shows up and says he started from Australia.  How would he be able to head due south and run into the same station the American is at?

Show the documentation of such events and then we'll have something to respond to.

What about an American scientist that is already at the south pole station.  And an Australian scientist shows up and says he started from Australia.  How would he be able to head due south and run into the same station the American is at?

That doesn't happen, first of all. Russian or Australian explorers leaving from their home countries don't go looking for American markers or bases. They only look for their own.

Random Australian explorers don't go looking for American markers or bases because they're not allowed to cross onto American claimed territory under treaty. Americans don't look for Australian  markers or bases because they're not allowed to cross into Australian claimed territory. Each country has claim to their own little part of Antarctica southwards of them.

If the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station does have foreign nationals stationed there, they would be under proper authorization and would have arrived with the regular staff who set sail southward of South America with the US NAVY.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 21, 2008, 04:21:44 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 21, 2008, 04:16:18 PM

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What about the base that is at the south pole?

The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station is at 90^oS, a distance of 1,500 miles inland of the Antarctic Rim. Since the base is American built and operated, its location is likely southward of South America.

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Are these bases and markers exactly the same?  So that a Russian explorer that just happened to start at New Zealand instead of his normal starting point wouldn't be confused when he got to what he thought was his own marker?

If the explorers start from a different starting point then they would not find their markers and will get lost and die in the fringed icy wasteland of Antarctica. That could be why so many Antarctic explorers have disappeared since the turn of the last century.

What about an American scientist that is already at the south pole station.  And an Australian scientist shows up and says he started from Australia.  How would he be able to head due south and run into the same station the American is at?

Show the documentation of such events and then we'll have something to respond to.

So its never happened?  Australians never make it to the supposed American South Pole Station/marker (which according to Tom is 1500 miles due south of South America.

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What about an American scientist that is already at the south pole station.  And an Australian scientist shows up and says he started from Australia.  How would he be able to head due south and run into the same station the American is at?

That doesn't happen, first of all. Russian or Australian explorers leaving from their home countries don't go looking for American markers or bases. They only look for their own.

Random Australian explorers don't go looking for American markers because they're not allowed to cross onto American claimed territory under treaty. Americans don't look for Norwegian markers because they're not allowed to encroach onto the Norwegian claim of Antarctica.

If the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station does have foreign nationals stationed there, they would have arrived with the regular staff who set sail southward of South America via the US NAVY.

Ok....just for the record.....how many countries have their own marker for the geographical south pole?



And what about the guys that say they crossed in 220 days?  That didnt happen either?

And yet none of this will ever be plotted on a map since there is no mutually agreed on map for the flat earth

The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station is at 90^oS, a distance of 1,500 miles inland of the Antarctic Rim. Since the base is American built and operated, its location is likely southward of South America.

The most interesting thing about the FE model Amundsen-Scott is while the Station itself is located at 139°16 W, below Australia and such, the airstrip for it is located at 0° E, essentially on the other side of the planet. I do wonder what GPS devices do in that kind of situation.

And I've no idea where you got the idea of the base being located south of South America from. The main method of getting to the base is from McMurdo Station, about 2,200 km from New Zealand.

It doesn't matter. All of these expeditions and bases on Antarctica are government funded.

Except for the privately funded expeditions.

http://www.adventure-network.com/subpage.asp?navid=1&id=15

Sorry Ive been gone for awhile.  No one to keep the post going so the FE'ers just ignore a legit post.  Typical.