Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.

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MessiahOfFire

Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« on: June 02, 2008, 06:10:36 PM »
Well, I was thinking. If our earth is constantly accelerating (going faster and faster), the craters that comets make would get bigger/deeper every time a comet hits us.

Scientist can see one and predict how the impact will be. They can tell us how big the crater will be (approx) and how much damage will be caused. But if the earth was accelerating, the damage and size of crater would dramatically increase, rendering all mathematical predictions wrong.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot... There have been similar sized comets that have hit the earth over long periods of time between each other, but have caused similar sized craters. If earth was constantly getting more and more speed through acceleration, 2 of the same sized comets would make massively different craters. Meaning, the later one would make a bigger crater then the earlier one. Get it? Hope so!
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 06:29:48 PM »
There is no reason to debate this. The Earth IS round. But of coarse now the FE are gonna be all "hey you lurk troll NO U dinner" and that crap.
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 06:34:41 PM »
But of coarse now...
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 06:36:22 PM »
PLUS: If a person was 'free falling' off from a plane, because the earth is constantly accelerating, this persons free fall speed would increase every time. But there is a sort of 'speed limit' of free falling. Read into it, it is interesting. This, 'speed limit' would not exist if the earth was constantly accelerating. It would exist though if the earth had the same constant force applied to it, through gravitation.

Because similar sized comets make similar sized craters through time, it is proof that the earth has a constant and consistent force of gravitation.

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 06:41:24 PM »

Because similar sized comets make similar sized craters through time, it is proof that the earth has a constant and consistent force of gravitation.

Or is it that the crater is measured to determine the size of the comet/meteor?  Perhaps I've misunderstood you?

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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 06:42:29 PM »

Because similar sized comets make similar sized craters through time, it is proof that the earth has a constant and consistent force of gravitation.

Or is it that the crater is measured to determine the size of the comet/meteor?  Perhaps I've misunderstood you?

That has nothing to do with my proof that the earth is not accelerating. If you need information about your question, use google.com

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 07:02:10 PM »
Well, I was thinking. If our earth is constantly accelerating (going faster and faster), the craters that comets make would get bigger/deeper every time a comet hits us.

Scientist can see one and predict how the impact will be. They can tell us how big the crater will be (approx) and how much damage will be caused. But if the earth was accelerating, the damage and size of crater would dramatically increase, rendering all mathematical predictions wrong.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot... There have been similar sized comets that have hit the earth over long periods of time between each other, but have caused similar sized craters. If earth was constantly getting more and more speed through acceleration, 2 of the same sized comets would make massively different craters. Meaning, the later one would make a bigger crater then the earlier one. Get it? Hope so!

In short, no. Meteors and comets will only ever hit Earth provided they are at a lesser rate than the Earth. If we suppose that the Earth started with the Big Bang and was sent upwards, anything hitting the Earth is due to a slower rate of acceleration. This does not mean that comets and meteors must make larger craters.
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 07:20:28 PM »
Well, I was thinking. If our earth is constantly accelerating (going faster and faster), the craters that comets make would get bigger/deeper every time a comet hits us.

Scientist can see one and predict how the impact will be. They can tell us how big the crater will be (approx) and how much damage will be caused. But if the earth was accelerating, the damage and size of crater would dramatically increase, rendering all mathematical predictions wrong.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot... There have been similar sized comets that have hit the earth over long periods of time between each other, but have caused similar sized craters. If earth was constantly getting more and more speed through acceleration, 2 of the same sized comets would make massively different craters. Meaning, the later one would make a bigger crater then the earlier one. Get it? Hope so!

In short, no. Meteors and comets will only ever hit Earth provided they are at a lesser rate than the Earth. If we suppose that the Earth started with the Big Bang and was sent upwards, anything hitting the Earth is due to a slower rate of acceleration. This does not mean that comets and meteors must make larger craters.

You must be wrong. If we are accelerating, that means that comets/meteors would hit us at different amounts of pressure.

Look at it this way.. You have the big bang. Out of the big bang there are too many comets to count going at the same speed. BUT, because of the "dark energy' proposed by FES, the EARTH is constantly getting faster and faster, meaning that each time a comet hits, it 'should' have more impact!

For those who don't get it:

Comets/meteors = They travel at the same speed as they have since the explosion. There is no DE propelling them.

Earth = Is constantly accelerating at such a high rate that each time a similar sized object hits us, it should hit us with greater impact for we are accelerating.
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 07:25:16 PM »
There is no way to refute it.

Imagine a car traveling at 10km/h. It hits a light post. Not much damage.

Imagine a car traveling at 200km/h. It hits a light post. The damage would be increased, hugely!

I am correct because if the 'FE' is accelerating, it means it must have had a point where it was going much slower then it is now.
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 07:30:11 PM »
PLUS: If a person was 'free falling' off from a plane, because the earth is constantly accelerating, this persons free fall speed would increase every time. But there is a sort of 'speed limit' of free falling. Read into it, it is interesting. This, 'speed limit' would not exist if the earth was constantly accelerating. It would exist though if the earth had the same constant force applied to it, through gravitation.
Hmm, I would say you are wrong.  Actually, Einstein would say you were wrong too.  Perhaps you have forgotten about air resistance?


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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 07:30:57 PM »
Comets/meteors = They travel at the same speed as they have since the explosion. There is no DE propelling them.
Since when?


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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 07:34:11 PM »
You must be wrong. If we are accelerating, that means that comets/meteors would hit us at different amounts of pressure.

Why?

Look at it this way.. You have the big bang. Out of the big bang there are too many comets to count going at the same speed. BUT, because of the "dark energy' proposed by FES, the EARTH is constantly getting faster and faster, meaning that each time a comet hits, it 'should' have more impact!

It's not proposed by FE.

Comets/meteors = They travel at the same speed as they have since the explosion. There is no DE propelling them.

Why isn't the DE propelling them? DE increases the rate of expansion in the universe. Why are comets immune?

Earth = Is constantly accelerating at such a high rate

And so are the comets.
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 07:38:47 PM »
PLUS: If a person was 'free falling' off from a plane, because the earth is constantly accelerating, this persons free fall speed would increase every time. But there is a sort of 'speed limit' of free falling. Read into it, it is interesting. This, 'speed limit' would not exist if the earth was constantly accelerating. It would exist though if the earth had the same constant force applied to it, through gravitation.
Hmm, I would say you are wrong.  Actually, Einstein would say you were wrong too.  Perhaps you have forgotten about air resistance?

Sorry, my bad. You are right. I didn't think of it at the time. Respect to you!


EDIT: BUT!!!

If air resistance came into it, it would NOT make a difference* (*much of a difference). Does air resistance make a difference when a car crashes into a tree at 10mh/h, or 200km/h?

The speed of this earth so far must be so high that AIR resistance would not make much of a difference..

Tell me, how fast, EXACTLY is the earth traveling right now?
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MessiahOfFire

Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 07:44:06 PM »
Are you saying because of 'air resistance', the same sized object that hit the earth NOW would make the same  sized crater, as would the same sized object from millions of years ago? Wind resistance, IN FLAT EARTH THEORY, is only one factor to how fast something 'falls' to the ground. A second factor is the speed that the earth is traveling.

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 07:45:17 PM »
PLUS: If a person was 'free falling' off from a plane, because the earth is constantly accelerating, this persons free fall speed would increase every time. But there is a sort of 'speed limit' of free falling. Read into it, it is interesting. This, 'speed limit' would not exist if the earth was constantly accelerating. It would exist though if the earth had the same constant force applied to it, through gravitation.
Hmm, I would say you are wrong.  Actually, Einstein would say you were wrong too.  Perhaps you have forgotten about air resistance?


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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 07:45:40 PM »
If air resistance came into it, it would NOT make a difference. Does air resistance make a difference when a car crashes into a tree at 10mh/h, or 200km/h?

Two words: terminal velocity. Plus, Einstein.

The speed of this earth so far must be so high that AIR resistance would not make much of a difference..

You're still ignoring the comet's acceleration.
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 07:59:05 PM »
So you 2 guys are going by Einstein? He was working from a RE. Don't try to prove me wrong using a RE'rs theory.

Going the way you are going, Einstein knew the sun was the center of our system, then mercury, then venus, then Earth: Which ROTATES around the sun.

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 08:02:37 PM »
You're still ignoring the comet's acceleration.
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 08:03:45 PM »
If air resistance came into it, it would NOT make a difference. Does air resistance make a difference when a car crashes into a tree at 10mh/h, or 200km/h?

Two words: terminal velocity. Plus, Einstein.

The speed of this earth so far must be so high that AIR resistance would not make much of a difference..

You're still ignoring the comet's acceleration.

But you are wrong because comets do not have acceleration AWAY FROM THE EARTH, if they are going away form us, then you must show proof. Do not bring Newton or Einstein into the equation because they are both believers of ROUND EARTH.

If you want to prove a flat earth, bring in equations, theories, studies and facts that have been concluded by scientists. Not Samuel Rowbotham.
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2008, 08:05:06 PM »
You're still ignoring the comet's acceleration.


Am I really ignoring the comets acceleration? Maybe you could tell me, and give me proof that a comet is traveling AWAY form earth at a certain speed. Can you?

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2008, 08:10:39 PM »
So you 2 guys are going by Einstein? He was working from a RE. Don't try to prove me wrong using a RE'rs theory.
I'm not.  I'm using FE theory to prove you wrong.  I only mention Einstein because then maybe you would realize you were wrong earlier.  But, to be honest, I do love dragging out the pain and embarrassment of RE'ers as long as possible, so, by all means, continue.  Show me how this skydiving scenario would be different in the FE.


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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2008, 08:13:44 PM »
Come on, I thought I was going to have a proper argument against FE's and not RE's that fight for FET. Come on! Don't use Newton or Einstein. I thought because the FLAT EARTH THEORY had such a long time to prove it self, it would have had famous scientists who have devoted them selves to proving them selves correct. I am still to find ONE scientist who backs up the flat earth theory.

And even if Tom Bishop came in and gave me ONE of those scientists, it still wouldn't amount to the many scientists that believe in round earth. Usually, majority rules. In this case, it does.

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2008, 08:16:15 PM »
So you 2 guys are going by Einstein? He was working from a RE. Don't try to prove me wrong using a RE'rs theory.
I'm not.  I'm using FE theory to prove you wrong.  I only mention Einstein because then maybe you would realize you were wrong earlier.  But, to be honest, I do love dragging out the pain and embarrassment of RE'ers as long as possible, so, by all means, continue.  Show me how this skydiving scenario would be different in the FE.

The sky diving incident would be much different then in RE. Because the FE must be going at SUCH HIGH SPEEDS by now, air resistance wouldn't play much part in how fast a person travels down towards the earth. Is it that hard to understand.

Do you honestly think that no matter how fast this earth is going, air resistance is ALWAYS going to bring a free faller back to this 'speed limit' that free fallers experience every time?

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 08:17:57 PM »
That NO MATTER WHAT!!!! Air resistance is the final straw in what determines speed?

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2008, 08:18:49 PM »
The sky diving incident would be much different then in RE. Because the FE must be going at SUCH HIGH SPEEDS by now
What does the speed of the FE have to do with it?

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air resistance wouldn't play much part in how fast a person travels down towards the earth. Is it that hard to understand.
Uh, terminal velocity.  Perhaps you should understand it.

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Do you honestly think that no matter how fast this earth is going, air resistance is ALWAYS going to bring a free faller back to this 'speed limit' that free fallers experience every time?
Yes.


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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2008, 08:24:31 PM »
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Do you honestly think that no matter how fast this earth is going, air resistance is ALWAYS going to bring a free faller back to this 'speed limit' that free fallers experience every time?
Yes.

hehe, Ok. Thanks.

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2008, 08:27:03 PM »
You realize the earth has a velocity in RE theory too, right?
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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2008, 08:30:48 PM »
hehe, Ok. Thanks.
You are welcome.  I am always pleased to point out to you RE'ers, your mistakes.


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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2008, 08:33:33 PM »
hehe, Ok. Thanks.
You are welcome.  I am always pleased to point out to you RE'ers, your mistakes.

Well, I am not really welcome because your point is negative/incorrect.

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Re: Proof that accelerating earth theory is wrong.
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2008, 08:37:44 PM »
You have yet to show me how it is 'negative/incorrect'.


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