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st3w

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so,
« on: June 02, 2008, 03:04:07 PM »
so if the Earth is flat, why is there a magnetic north and south, and

why when i take off in a plane i can see the CURVATURE of the earth.

and like...u dont fall of when  walk to the edge?

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Re: so,
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 03:08:32 PM »
1. Why wouldn't there be?

2. No you can't.

3. You haven't walked to the edge.

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Re: so,
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 03:10:24 PM »
Me fail English? That's unpossible!

In answer to the questions:
Same reasons as on a Round Earth.
You can't see it.
There's a giant wall of ice and plenty of ice beyond it. Nobody knows how much but it's not an immediate edge.

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 03:29:19 PM »
hold on, so your telling me NO ONE has ever went ROUND the world? may i remind you of round the world trips? or are they all government cover-ups ey? nah i dont think so, infact michel Palin did it if i remember correctly, and i doubt very much one of hte Monty Pythin five is part of a government Nasa cover-up.
also, whats this "wall of ice" drabble? u think if there was a wall of ice we would be worrying about global warming?

also, if the earth ISNT round...once again...when i am in a plane, i can look out my window and see QUITE WELL heading to 30,000ft the clouds curvature.

also, with this "the money in the 60s was spent on making it LOOK like they went in space" ...rubbish....seriously, not even CGI can do what you see in space, especially modern voyages, i know about graphics and if it was possible then, films like lord of the rings would have been done in the 60s.


satellites? anyone? the orbit the earth (because it is round) and like, you can SEE them doing so...through telescopes, but then again "maybe every scientist is part of the cover-up" (i think not)

MAGNEtIC FIELD anyone? you know what it is, you know what it does, it wouldnt work with the earth being FLAT, but they are there, you have NORTHERN LIGHTS.


also, re-touch on your wall if ice theory...have you "ever seen it"?

also i will make a point to number 2, dont tell me what i can and cant see, not only CAN you see the curvature of the earth at high altitude, but tourists can PAY russians to go almost in to orbit..and it is, QUITE visable form there...but then again "they must be part of the cover-up"
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Kasroa Is Gone

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Re: so,
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 03:32:21 PM »
Does not compute...Brrrrp....Bzzzzt.....refraction....look out window....Snell's Law....Prrrrp

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Re: so,
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 03:32:57 PM »
hold on, so your telling me NO ONE has ever went ROUND the world?

Please read our FAQ.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 03:40:49 PM »
ive read it. its pretty made up. tbh you people have NO proof. and you still never told me why u CANT SEE this mountain range that "happens" to be covered in snow, but YOU lot would know that, because, evidently, youve seen it...oh wait...no you havnt.

seriously i look forward to seeing this magical invisible non-existent mountain range...wait...

the point is, it may be very well for an FAQ just to basically list what is obviously un-sensical rubbish, founded on NO proof, go, take a picture, show it to the world, or maybe, you samsung digital camera is in on the conspiracy!!

and for the love of god, dont avoid it and just say "look at the FAQ" because the FAQ is BS - the earth can be seen, by ANYONE who goes HIGH ENOUGH to be ROUND. and no, not astronauts, not the government, and not wizards, people, for example who pay money to go in to orbit, normal people, with 2k.

still not compute? wouldnt surprise me.

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Re: so,
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 03:45:11 PM »
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ive read it. its pretty made up. tbh you people have NO proof. and you still never told me why u CANT SEE this mountain range that "happens" to be covered in snow, but YOU lot would know that, because, evidently, youve seen it...oh wait...no you havnt.

The atmosphere is not perfectly transparent.

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 03:51:31 PM »
oh come on, im not suggesting u look at it tens of thousands of miles away from your bedroom window, what i am saying is

u think there is an invisible army guarding it? i mean, im not saying its impossible to guard things (ie area51) but, there is NO HISTORY, NO RECORDS or PAST DOWN EXPEriENCE

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civilization, peoples, travelers, explorers discovering it. or where they the "ye olde NASA conspirers?" i think not. cmon, you really think no one would notice such a guarded ice wall? rubbish. not only would countries probably FIGHT over it, but people would CERTAINLY notice.

and also, dont ignore parts of my argument and single out the shortest ones so you can give it a quick, cheap, pointless wee come back...like the "the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent" not only do i KNOW that, but thats like saying


"st3w's house is miles away, the atmosphere isnt transparent, so we cant see it..." but u STILL can get CLOSE enough to see it, even if it was guarded for a THOUSAND MILES, you would GET TO THE DEFENSE wouldnt you not?

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Re: so,
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 03:58:53 PM »
A little reading would show you not all FE'ers believe an ice wall is necessary. I'm split on the issue as several ancient cosmologies depict a wall of mountains ringing the flat earth, and several high altitude pictures might depict an ice wall. I also don't believe it is heavily guarded. It's remoteness guards it quite efficiently.
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 04:09:03 PM »
but you cant prove its existence, because, no one has ever seen it....in the past mountains depicted as bit are ranges such as the HIMALAYAS - so its so remote, no humans evolved on it? it just "skipped" world history did it?

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Re: so,
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 04:13:21 PM »
Antarctica is several times larger than Australia. Are you suggesting people inhabited and evolved on Antarctica? Do you have any proof of this claim?
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 04:37:27 PM »
^ i dont have proof of a claim i never made m8 ;)

i thought these where mountains just happened to be covered on snow? well, even if they where, there would be a HABITABLE boundary at LEAST close to it, look at the north pole,, head south and it gradually turns in to alaska, the is plenty life there, and even then, it would not take an idiot to work out, ONCE AGAIN that it would be EASILY OBVIOUS to EVERYONE that there is SOMETHING HUGE we HAVNT EXPLORED - COME ON

what countries does the guard start at? where ARE these mountains (well, we all know they are no where, really because they dont exist).

come on, its so obvious, your theory is total rubbish, its made up, you are all delusional, because to SUGGEST that SINCE THE DAWN ON MAN the EARTH is a cylinder shape surrounded by massive mountains, no one has

1. discovered
2. documented
3. visited
4. photographed
5. proved

it is, in one word, OBSCURED, it is the most OBSCURE approach to geography i have ever seen and i honestly dont know what you people eat. even your replies are rubbish...you just make more crap up!


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Re: so,
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 04:42:45 PM »
Posted on: Today at 04:13:21 PMPosted by: Ski.Antarctica is several times larger than Australia. Are you suggesting people inhabited and evolved on Antarctica? Do you have any proof of this claim?

 he did not even say anything about antactica you nooby dumb penguin jesus,i dont know why you find a round earth so hard to belive just get out side more fucking hell
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Re: so,
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 04:54:24 PM »
Posted on: Today at 04:13:21 PMPosted by: Ski.Antarctica is several times larger than Australia. Are you suggesting people inhabited and evolved on Antarctica? Do you have any proof of this claim?

 he did not even say anything about antactica

Wasn't he talking about the ice wall?  ???
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: so,
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 05:11:11 PM »
in the past mountains depicted as bit are ranges such as the HIMALAYAS - so its so remote, no humans evolved on it? it just "skipped" world history did it?

Looks like you're suggesting people evolved on Antarctica and would have noticed the ice wall. I'm suggesting it is sufficiently far away from known habitation that we may not have noticed. Oddly, several ancient cosmologies reference this mountain range -- are you suggesting they had no knowledge of the mountain range? That they were guessing and happened to guess correctly? Do you have a reason to disregard their testimony other than it does not conform to your RE view? Doesn't that seem like it was not "skipped" in world history if it was referenced world wide in ancient times? Are you aware of the bulk of advanced ancient civilizations that held this view? That it held sway until the globularist conspiracy became manifest in the 1400's? It only "skipped" world history if you aren't reading history.
How many people are wandering around the depths of Antarctica (again four times the size of Australia in winter) to see the ice wall? Are you aware of large bands of travelers setting out to head rim-ward in a search for the ice wall? Please reference them. Are you aware of the many Antarctic explorers who met unfortunate and mysterious deaths?
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Re: so,
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 05:19:05 PM »
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ive read it. its pretty made up. tbh you people have NO proof. and you still never told me why u CANT SEE this mountain range that "happens" to be covered in snow, but YOU lot would know that, because, evidently, youve seen it...oh wait...no you havnt.

The atmosphere is not perfectly transparent.

Only took you 6 words? Come on tom you're better than that I bet you could do it in 4 and you still wouldn't be able to know where to start

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Re: so,
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 05:21:54 PM »
Wasn't he talking about the ice wall?  
nooo antarctica is not a fucking ice wall thers no such thing as an ice wall,jesus
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Re: so,
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 05:28:01 PM »
A minimum of study would show you the icewall is located in the depths of Antartica...
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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Re: so,
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2008, 06:02:24 PM »
Nobody knows how much but it's not an immediate edge.
I do but I'm not telling.

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Re: so,
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2008, 07:35:29 PM »
Wasn't he talking about the ice wall? 
nooo antarctica is not a fucking ice wall thers no such thing as an ice wall,jesus

Yes, if you paid attention you'd realize that most of us don't technically regard it as a "wall" so much as a mountain range that rings the earth.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: so,
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2008, 05:13:24 AM »
so uh, if the earth is really flat why are our latitude and longitude lines curved?
why is the earth special and flat and all of the moons and other planets round?
and how do explain gravity and wind? and the fucking rotation of the earth, we get day and night  for different periods of time depending on the seasons and our position around the sun.



  and if anybody says it's all part of the conspiracy i will starting calling people obsence names.

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Re: so,
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2008, 05:53:56 AM »
and if anybody says it's all part of the conspiracy i will starting calling people obsence names.

It's all part of the conspiracy.

Actually, lots of what you have asked has been covered in the FAQ. If you have a problem with the explanations given in the FAQ perhaps you might care to elaborate why you think it wouldn't work.

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Requiem

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Re: so,
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2008, 06:35:33 AM »
ok, i read the FAQ and i believe it to be a bunch of bullshit. such ideals are so old-fashioned and easily misproven with correct science and common sense that it's laughable.

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Re: so,
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2008, 06:38:57 AM »
ok, i read the FAQ and i believe it to be a bunch of bullshit. such ideals are so old-fashioned and easily misproven with correct science and common sense that it's laughable.

Take it from an REer: Try to convince FEers that they're wrong using "correct science" and "common sense" for a while and you won't be laughing.

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Re: so,
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2008, 06:50:04 AM »
ok, i read the FAQ and i believe it to be a bunch of bullshit. such ideas are so old-fashioned and easily misproven with correct science and common sense that it's laughable.

Give it a shot then, see how good you are at "correct science" and "common sense".

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Re: so,
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 09:32:50 AM »
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so uh, if the earth is really flat why are our latitude and longitude lines curved?

In the FE model the longitude lines are straight and the latitude lines are curved.

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why is the earth special and flat and all of the moons and other planets round?

The earth is not one of those celestial bodies. The earth is a plane which bisects the universe. The earth is the only know material world and the only environment known to support life.

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and how do explain gravity and wind? and the fucking rotation of the earth, we get day and night  for different periods of time depending on the seasons and our position around the sun.

Read the FAQ.

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2008, 11:43:10 AM »
Tom bishop, i would'nt trust you with setting the timer on a microwave. you've made the whole FAQ up, COME ON MAN YOU HAVE NO PROOF

come on, show me a map of where these mountains are. as ive said before, but again, none of you here come even close to puttin up a stable argument, just dodge questions and picking out stupid things that you make up.

accept it, your wrong, you have

NO

proof, you want to believe it so bad you make shit up. how you know they are covered in snow? i take it you've been to the military guard, since its so big and all?? oh wait....you HAVE NOT...and neither has ANYONE because there are NO mountains surrounding the earth, which ISNT flat.

it wouldnt be THAT hard to NOTICE a MASSIVE barrier CIRCLING the earth of military protection.

all you believers are absolute fools. get a real interest.

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Re: so,
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 11:48:03 AM »
Incoherent babbling is cruise control for cool.
Why justify an illegitimate attack with a legitimate response?

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st3w

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Re: so,
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 12:07:31 PM »
the most flawed map ive ever seen:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Flat_earth.jpg

is that what you think the earth is like Tom Bishop?  you do know, people have circled the earth, im pretty damn sure of it actually
and the oceans are not that big, you can FLY from one continent to the other without such a massive ocean, you just base ur made up facts on your own bias.

people have sailed in practically every part of the ocean on earth, people have circled in in ships, planes and KNOW where things are, if the ocean, as illustrated in that map, really DID go on for so long, we Wouldn't have a FISHING problem. also, people would GO there, an notice military guard, and the mountains would have been mapped long ago.

you theories are a joke. your a moron. you cant argue and are totally ignorant of TRUE scientific and historical facts., and evidently cant afford a proper forum.