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Anikraze

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If gravity doesn't exist....
« on: May 29, 2008, 12:33:18 PM »
And we're constantly accelerating foward, then the ball in my hand in also accelerating foward. And if I throw the ball upwards, (transfering energy to it) why does it come back down? It should be moving foward at the speed of the planets acceleration plus the extra force that i put into it. Pardon me if i sound stupid, i'm not too smart when it comes to physics and what-not.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 12:38:08 PM »
We're accelerating upwards not forwards...
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 12:45:09 PM »
It doesn't move back down the Earth catches up with it.
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Anikraze

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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 01:03:57 PM »
Quote from: Kasroa Is Gone on May 29, 2008, 12:45:09 PM
It doesn't move back down the Earth catches up with it.
How does it if it's moving at the speed of the Earth plus the force of your throw?
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 01:07:25 PM »
When you let go of it you're no longer applying a force so it remains at the velocity it was when it left your hand. The Earth is constantly increasing its velocity so will eventually catch up with the ball at a rate of 9.8 m/s/s.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 11:50:05 PM »
if we are acclerating, why dont we pass the other planets and our sun? which are odly all spheres??? why arent we a sphere like every other planet and star in the universe?

well, gravity pulls from all directions, yes? and because there is more dense mass in the center of ther earth, there is more gravity, yes?

that's why earth is a sphere, not a mythical flat land that is controlled evil governments with huge ice walls towering above that nobody has ever seen...

has any one you ever been in a plane?
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 06:43:46 AM »
i did a lil research. you say the earth is constanly acclerating? ok so the world is 4.5 BILLION years old ok.


4.500 000 000years x 365days x 86400seconds in a day x 9.81(gravity/accleration) = 141.912x12^11m/s

speed of light is: 299 792 458 m/s

our current velocity is 473.367.478 times the speed light by your logic
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 06:46:21 AM »
Your math is wrong.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 06:56:03 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on May 30, 2008, 06:46:21 AM
Your math is wrong.

haha just dismising my math as wrong doesn't mean your right, it just makes you look like a tool.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 07:03:21 AM »
Except I am right and your math is wrong.  You didn't even use the right equation.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2008, 07:31:32 AM »
well turns out the calculator could not comprehend the large numbers that are involved in proving my point. anyway i found a calculator on  the net that could.

4.500 000 000years x 365days x 86400seconds in a day x 9.81(gravity/accleration) = 1.392.156.720.000.000.000m/s

speed of light is: 299 792 458 m/s

our current velocity is 4.643.734.966 times the speed light by your logic.

and how is my formular wrong?
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 07:50:13 AM »
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2008, 08:43:31 AM »
Gravity doesn't exist?

 ???
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2008, 09:04:20 AM »
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2008, 10:05:23 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on May 30, 2008, 09:04:20 AM
Quote from: missmanners on May 30, 2008, 08:43:31 AM
Gravity doesn't exist?

 ???
mm

Not as you think:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=19384.0

Too many big words for me, all I want to know is if my boobs will sag when I get old.

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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2008, 12:21:30 PM »
Quote from: missmanners on May 30, 2008, 10:05:23 AM
Quote from: divito the truthist on May 30, 2008, 09:04:20 AM
Quote from: missmanners on May 30, 2008, 08:43:31 AM
Gravity doesn't exist?

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Not as you think:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=19384.0

Too many big words for me, all I want to know is if my boobs will sag when I get old.

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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2008, 11:32:08 PM »
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on May 29, 2008, 12:38:08 PM
We're accelerating upwards not forwards...

But if we're acceleratingly in a giant gravity-less expanse then it shouldn't matter. DUH. In 'space' you forget that there is no such thing as direction. If it did matter, then there would have to be some sort of giant gravity well under us, but then we wouldn't be moving, and that sure as hell trumps your entire theory.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2008, 12:33:04 AM »
Please publish these new findings...
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2008, 01:27:10 AM »
Quote from: Anikraze on May 29, 2008, 12:33:18 PM
And we're constantly accelerating foward, then the ball in my hand in also accelerating foward.
The Earth is accelerating you. Therefore, while holding the ball, you are accelerating it relative to the Earth.

Quote from: Anikraze on May 29, 2008, 12:33:18 PM
And if I throw the ball upwards, (transfering energy to it) why does it come back down? It should be moving foward at the speed of the planets acceleration plus the extra force that i put into it.
UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2008, 10:03:45 AM »
Quote from: Jack. on May 31, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
So you saying it somehow magically loses it momentum? That makes a lot of damn sense. I can't reference newton's laws here because obviously you don't believe in them.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2008, 10:31:43 AM »
It's not magic, it's friction.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2008, 10:40:45 AM »
Quote from: CaptainBaconMan on May 31, 2008, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: Jack. on May 31, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
So you saying it somehow magically loses it momentum? That makes a lot of damn sense. I can't reference newton's laws here because obviously you don't believe in them.

Ball leaves hand: No longer accelerating.
Earth accelerating constantly: Catches up with ball.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2008, 11:32:39 AM »
Quote from: Kasroa Is Gone on May 31, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: CaptainBaconMan on May 31, 2008, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: Jack. on May 31, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
So you saying it somehow magically loses it momentum? That makes a lot of damn sense. I can't reference newton's laws here because obviously you don't believe in them.

Ball leaves hand: No longer accelerating.
Earth accelerating constantly: Catches up with ball.

Exactly. Ball leaves hand with velocity higher than earth. Earth accelerates to meet it.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2008, 01:27:11 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on May 31, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
It's not magic, it's friction.
Wrong, if it was because of friction then the air would have to be moving faster than the planet for it to logically slow it down more than the rate we are traveling.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2008, 01:46:36 PM »
The air isn't slowing the planet down, silly.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
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Ball leaves hand: No longer accelerating.
Earth accelerating constantly: Catches up with ball.

Exactly. Ball leaves hand with velocity higher than earth. Earth accelerates to meet it.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2008, 02:00:25 AM »
If you can't grasp these simple concepts, perhaps scientific discussion isn't for you?
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2008, 02:05:06 AM »
Quote from: CaptainBaconMan on May 31, 2008, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: Jack. on May 31, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
So you saying it somehow magically loses it momentum?
Uh, no.

Quote from: CaptainBaconMan on May 31, 2008, 10:03:45 AM
That makes a lot of damn sense. I can't reference newton's laws here because obviously you don't believe in them.
I believe Newton's laws apply only in an inertial frame of reference.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2008, 10:55:51 AM »
Quote from: Ski on May 31, 2008, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Kasroa Is Gone on May 31, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
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UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
So you saying it somehow magically loses it momentum? That makes a lot of damn sense. I can't reference newton's laws here because obviously you don't believe in them.

Ball leaves hand: No longer accelerating.
Earth accelerating constantly: Catches up with ball.

Exactly. Ball leaves hand with velocity higher than earth. Earth accelerates to meet it.
So your saying that the earth consciously speeds up to meet this ball? Wouldn't you feel that? Your weight would suddenly spike, this makes no sense.
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Re: If gravity doesn't exist....
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2008, 11:05:34 AM »
Quote from: Kasroa Is Gone on May 31, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
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Quote from: Jack. on May 31, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
UA doesn't accelerate the ball.  Once the ball leaves your hand and reaches its maximum height (after your throw), it enters an inertial frame of reference in which it "floats" in the air. The Earth accelerates you up, so your hand catches it. In a bystander's point of view, it looks as if the ball falls back to your hand.
So you saying it somehow magically loses it momentum? That makes a lot of damn sense. I can't reference newton's laws here because obviously you don't believe in them.

Ball leaves hand: No longer accelerating.
Earth accelerating constantly: Catches up with ball.
How is the earth accelerating constantly? One of you FErs already said the earth travels at a consistent rate of 1g. We would constantly be growing in eight very rapidly if this were the case. And Who's side are you on?
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