Earth satellites are impossible

You are correct.

I finally won one!!!!!

You're not really helping here.

Ooh, told.

So can we get back to the actual debate now?

No! Let\'s stay off topic so no one can ever poove the FE\'ers wrong!!1!!11

only after the motor dies.  IE the motor dieing = the bullet leaving the barrel.  Then your correct it would be the exact same amount of time.

Uh, no, it would hit the ground at the same time as the bullet, even while the motor is burning.

But if you will notice while the motor is burning the bottle rocket doesnt descend.

Uh, no.

Then how much lift do my wings need to generate to overcome the earth coming to meet me.

They would need to produce 9.8m/s^2 of acceleration.

With the earth constantly accelerating wouldn't I exponentially have to increase the lift my wings produce the longer I was in the air?

No.

Uh yes.  Ive seen it.  Bottle rockets are legal where Im from.  I used to shoot them at my sister all the time.  I can tell you from the time it left my hand till the time it went by her it was level, and didn't drop unit after the motor died and it exploded.

As the rocket climbs 2 things are happening 1. it is encountering less drag and 2. the fuel is burning off so the rocket is getting lighter. 

You should start with a rocket of no dimension, for less drag, and no fuel.

Uh yes.  Ive seen it.  Bottle rockets are legal where Im from.  I used to shoot them at my sister all the time.  I can tell you from the time it left my hand till the time it went by her it was level, and didn't drop unit after the motor died and it exploded.

So you are telling me that an object, as long as it is accelerating horizontally, is not affected by 'gravity'?  Or are you trying to tell me that rocket traveling horizontally produces lift?  Or, please tell me that the rocket was actually pointed slightly upwards.  I beg of you, please tell me the latter is true.  Please restore some faith that I had in the aviation community.  Please.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 31, 2008, 08:01:18 PM

Uh yes.  Ive seen it.  Bottle rockets are legal where Im from.  I used to shoot them at my sister all the time.  I can tell you from the time it left my hand till the time it went by her it was level, and didn't drop unit after the motor died and it exploded.

So you are telling me that an object, as long as it is accelerating horizontally, is not affected by 'gravity'?  Or are you trying to tell me that rocket traveling horizontally produces lift?  Or, please tell me that the rocket was actually pointed slightly upwards.  I beg of you, please tell me the latter is true.  Please restore some faith that I had in the aviation community.  Please.

More than likey its tilted upward a little.  If I had to guess. 


Restore your faith?  A pilot that thinks the world is flat is questioning my aviation sense?  If thats not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.

More than likey its tilted upward a little.  If I had to guess. 

Great, at least that idiotic example of yours was put to rest.

Restore your faith?  A pilot that thinks the world is flat is questioning my aviation sense?  If thats not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.

That's the pot calling the kettle ignorant.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 01, 2008, 01:17:10 PM

More than likey its tilted upward a little.  If I had to guess. 

Great, at least that idiotic example of yours was put to rest.

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Restore your faith?  A pilot that thinks the world is flat is questioning my aviation sense?  If thats not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.

That's the pot calling the kettle ignorant.

What type rating do you have?  Are we talking day VFR only here or what?

Instrument and high performance.

Any overwater stuff?

Lakes, that is all.  I don't live near the ocean.

I'm telling you when you cross the pond, you have to use great circle nav.  Which only works in FET in the northern hemisphere.  If you were to head down south you would see there is no way for great circle nav to work the way it does in the southern hemisphere without the earth being a globe. 

BTW just for the record, in Herk land we used multiple different methods for navigational aids prior to GPS.  The Corps didn't see the need to upgrade us to GPS until recently.  So its not my GPS lying to me or anything like that.

What is the point of this post?  We were not discussing GC routes.

Would you like me to start a new one?


Im conceding the fact that I can't show a difference between gravity and UA.

Im conceding

That makes you a better man than most. 

Would you like me to start a new one?


Im conceding the fact that I can't show a difference between gravity and UA.

You can.

Basically, you can measure the gravitational attraction of a Mountain/Hill/Chair/Person, in UA a mountain wouldn't exert a gravitational tug on things nearby.