Earth satellites are impossible

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Earth satellites are impossible
« on: May 26, 2008, 08:10:35 AM »
yet they can be seen from the surface of the earth.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 08:24:36 AM »
You'll have to show me them sometime.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 08:36:26 AM »
But would you believe any such pictures posted?
I know round when I see it.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 08:38:52 AM »
Probably not. There is very little that would convince me of it, if at all. But that's keeping an open mind of course and not being fallacious.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 08:44:03 AM »
You could invest in a decent telescope, and look up windows of visibility.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 08:47:44 AM »
A telescope would do little to discern if it's an actual satellite or a stratellite.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 08:52:25 AM »
A telescope would do little to discern if it's an actual satellite or a stratellite.

You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?
I know round when I see it.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2008, 08:58:17 AM »
A telescope would do little to discern if it's an actual satellite or a stratellite.

You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?

It didn't give you away...
"Never think you can turn over any old falsehood without a terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under it." -O.W. Holmes "Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne.."

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2008, 08:59:04 AM »
Damn, Ski, you are on fire today.


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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2008, 09:00:20 AM »
A telescope would do little to discern if it's an actual satellite or a stratellite.

You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?

It didn't give you away...

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2008, 09:02:24 AM »
Hurrah! Another win for FE!

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2008, 09:14:20 AM »
You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?

You're very closed-minded, and possibly dense.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2008, 09:16:11 AM »
*Bows for the public*
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2008, 09:22:33 AM »
You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?

You're very closed-minded, and possibly dense.

Better than being so open minded your brain falls out.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2008, 09:27:32 AM »
I'd claim being as closed-minded and fallacious as you is probably not as good as understanding probabilities. But that's my subjective opinion.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2008, 09:28:36 AM »
You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?

You're very closed-minded, and possibly dense.

Better than being so open minded your brain falls out.

??? Like going so fast you can't catch yourself?  I must be too open minded to get that one.


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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2008, 09:31:14 AM »
I'd claim being as closed-minded and fallacious as you is probably not as good as understanding probabilities. But that's my subjective opinion.

And being so open minded must make you such easy prey to snake oil salesmen.

Like the one who sold you FET.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2008, 11:29:27 AM »
No one sold Divito FET. He got it free in his cereal box.
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2008, 01:10:59 AM »
But he paid for the cereal box....
But a sure-fire method would be to land on the top side of the sun.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2008, 02:55:02 AM »
His mum bought it for him
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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2008, 07:18:38 AM »
A telescope would do little to discern if it's an actual satellite or a stratellite.
Aside from previous comments pointing out the fact that a telescope should be able to see the fact that the stratellite is supported by a balloon, let's assume for a second that it IS somehow a balloon despite being shaped exactly like the constantly changing space station.  ISS is a very fast moving object in the sky when it's straight over your head.  It moves about 1.5 degrees per second at the peak of its pass.  Assuming it were really 300 kilometers away as described by NASA, then that correlates to about 8 kilometers per second - orbital velocity.  Assuming, however, that it is actually a tiny balloon only 20 kilometers straight up (as that would be the height of a stratellite), then that 1.5 degree per second motion (which you can easily measure for yourself with a telescope) still correlates to a velocity of 1,919 km/hr.  How is an unaerodynamic structure like the ISS able to fly at that high a velocity without being ripped to shreds by extreme aerodynamic forces (20km is still easily low enough in the atmosphere to experience extreme atmospheric heating)?  How is it able to maintain that velocity with no sign of any engine emissions whatsoever?  And best of all, how is it able to show up at exactly the right time and place as predicted by its supposed orbital elements?  Even if someone wanted to fake it by using a stratellite drone shaped like a space station, figured out a way to magically keep it intact, and figured out a way to get it going fast enough with no sign of engine emissions, any given flight path it could take would only produce a path that would match predictions based on the published ISS orbit for one very specific location.  Anyone else nearby looking up would see the "stratellite ISS" appear in totally the wrong place, and others farther away wouldn't see it at all.  The fakers would have to magically know ahead of time who was going to be trying to observe the ISS, as well as where and when exactly they would be observing it.  If two observers planned to look for it during the same predicted pass from locations separated by a few miles there'd be no way to adequately fake it for both observers simultaneously.  Therefore, it is impossible to adequately fake the ISS and shuttle using "stratellites," even for naked eye observers.

Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2008, 07:25:53 AM »
A telescope would do little to discern if it's an actual satellite or a stratellite.

You don't think the big gas filled bag would give it away?

It didn't give you away...

lol nice one, but really keep on topic  ;D

Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2008, 05:35:25 PM »
Problem is that in FE theory satellites are possible.
But a sure-fire method would be to land on the top side of the sun.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2008, 01:28:33 AM »
Problem is that in FE theory satellites are possible.

Really??  I thought NASA was spending all its time and money on photoshop and big computers.  How did they have enough leftover to actually figure out how to launch satellites into an impossible FE orbit?

Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2008, 02:04:01 AM »
I just found out recently that they actually dont have a reason why they are impossible. They may be able to orbit if they can get in contact with the universal accelerator.
But a sure-fire method would be to land on the top side of the sun.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2008, 07:23:45 AM »
Which is not possible.


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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2008, 11:10:00 AM »
Sometimes you gotta wish certain people were around, like a natural predator to something.

In this case a natural predator to flat earthers. Who thinks a couple of guided bombs would do.

Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2008, 11:12:43 AM »
Sometimes you gotta wish certain people were around, like a natural predator to something.

In this case a natural predator to flat earthers. Who thinks a couple of guided bombs would do.

Yeah.  Hell yah.  Lets bomb things.  Woohoo!

We have the bomb, take that, things.  Woohoo!!!

Yeah, godammit, yeah!




Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2008, 06:43:22 PM »
Which is not possible.

Why not? Ive been told it is.
But a sure-fire method would be to land on the top side of the sun.

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Re: Earth satellites are impossible
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2008, 08:20:01 PM »
How much fuel must a rocket carry to get that high?


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